All MOO
Perhaps it was a pre-meditated, predator thrill. I recall reading on one of MM/TB FL profiles -- some people took screen shots, perhaps someone can check -- that one or the other or both were interested in "predator role" and one or the other or both was interested in doing it (sex) in the rain or outside, in addition to dozens of other fetishes and curiosities indicated on their profiles. If they did take NP, perhaps TB was the driver and MM was tangling with NP, and headed out of town...perhaps too quick a stop somewhere tossed MM around in the car to sustain broken hands...perhaps they let NP go and she ran and MM/TB took the predator roll to chase her out there on that roadside and eventually to that woodlot...perhaps there along that roadside a pursuit and fight ensued...knife play, burning...
It's sick to even imagine but in the sub-culture of fetish and the way MM/TB (presumably) described their feelings of the rush and thrill, I could imagine they would become consumed in their actions, feeling the "high" or "climax" and adrenalin of the act...perhaps MM then sustained burns in addition to injuries, or injuries/burns in a pursuit...hence a lighter, though someone indicated TB smoked so it could have easily fallen from a pocket...and all outside...perhaps they did what they wanted after. Whatever they did with NP, none of it was good.
While I don't believe most fet-folks ever cross the line, it wouldn't take much for someone with a screw loose or a meeting of like-minds to drift into and out of an alternate reality, whether in a perpetual high or seeking a high, a plan to seek and consumate their fantasies. Purely speculative on my part, of course. For disclosure I did logon to that site but no profile (stated previously) and did not save anything. I found it far from normal and quite disturbing and a place where breeding deviance can thrive. From individuals posting photos and videos of themselves, chat rooms of all imaginable (and highly offensive and largely dispicable) fantasies and fetishes, and advertisers of "stuff" to state it nicely...it's not mainstream in the least.
If you're not aware of it/the lifestyle, which most are not and nor was I until reading it here, it's shocking. And in stepping back to view it, it/they/the lifestyle, it lives among us, and even without it out front and in the open, and though not well known, it is in some ways subconsciously accepted in our society, and with every beam of light shown upon it from incidents like this, it brings it more into our consciousness, and that, I find, is most disturbing. Sorry if some are not in agreement, but I find it creepy, and a creeping perversion lurking in our culture and the internet is the perfect host.
With a M1 charge, LE must have (my thoughts) some very strong evidence. Perhaps some or one of MM/TB friends or acquaintances reported to LE of witnessing/hearing MM/TB talking about what they wanted to do, that day or evening, or in a previous day, or in casual conversation at some time, and not making much of it at the time, but with NP disappearing they came forward? What someone "hears" someone say is much stronger than anything written on FL as it would be very tough to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that MM/TB wrote the words found there, without someone witnessing them typing it and posting it -- though the images of themselves posted there is undeniable and would certainly show culpability. Perhaps there is video to put them with/taking NP near Christina St.? Perhaps there was lighter found and there will be (LE would anticipate) recoverable prints? Autopsy would surely show multiple blood types/DNA/hair if there is any (LE would anticipate). Treatment at a hospital and a suspicious attendant might recover blood or hair as well (LE would anticipate).
Something brought M1 swiftly, so surely it must be eye-witness, camera, and/or someone confirming what they heard or saw. It would take a day or two to obtain camera footage but I would guess when/if they did, it's there and it is so indisputable that it and other indisputable evidence led to the M1.
All my thoughts. Blessings and RIP Nicole, you are in a better place.
Many of us have come here for answers, The HOW the WHY and some of these answers many never be answered. THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION/STATEMENT IS OF THE EVENTS IN WHICH I THINK HAPPENED TO POOR NOELLE. I have come to this conclusion using information provided here and listing to HEARSAY of what i think is the most plausable IT IS COMPLEETLY MOO!!! ALSO SOME OF THE INFORMATION YOU WILL SEE IS FACT IN WHICH HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY THE MEDIA.
Noelle left a party near downtown sarnia at 2-230 JAN 1, 2013. her boyfriends cousin ran out after her trying to get her to call a cab or come back to the party. noelle whom is upset begs her to leave her alone. she walks a little ways and calls her dad or both parents to pick her up, but they have been drinking and are responsible enough to know that, they tell her to call a cab.
At some point she stops MM and TB and asks for directions, MAYBE they gave her directions the wrong way either way they decide to follow her. I beleive IMO TB and MM were out looking for a poor random victim that night... it just happened to be noelle.
IMO The crime scene is that of the woodlot, there was no r**e!
this next part is very hard for me to type but it is what IMO happened.
they kidnap noelle and bring her to the wood lot, at the wood lot MM beats her and TB cuts her --- MM broke his hands and wrists from sending blows to poor noelle requireing surgery which is why his hands are in sllpints and wraps as reported by the media..
this crime was that of a brutal murder IMO not to get off on R**E but to get off on the crime it self... the violence, the cutting.
this coinsides with on TB FL profile she clims she is the one who likes to do the cutting, however anyone who seen the photos from that site can tell that the cuts are not that deep. i think that they liked the cutting so much they wanted to see what it would be like to cut more..
this was not easy for me to write. we've all talked about what we have thought and i think we are very careful about talking about the violence that may have happened that night. I did not enjoy writing this and cried my eyes out as i put this together in my head earlier today.
I can not wait to see justice for noelle... IMO the police have an air tight case and all the evidence will point twards the highest sentence.
....imho - i believe they may have thought about r**ing her and talked about fetish's and stuff ( nit to np but to anyone ) i think they got bored and needed to fullfill their sick and twisted minds...
