Identified! Canada - Regina, SK, WhtMale 720UMSK, 20-30, hit by train, Jul'95 - Michael Kirov (Lewis)

[rhyno1974]

It is very similar to the insignia on Polo Crest by Ralph Lauren. However I do believe it is not that EXACT crest, but without a clear shot of the insignia on the jacket, its hard to be 100 percent. Here is what that crest looks like.

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I am thinking more than likely that this is some sort of a brand name insignia.

There seem to be many versions of the chaps logo and I think this is one. If you look close there is a large "C" in the middle of the crest.

 

[Danaya]

I asked the detective if the Chaps logo jogs her memory as I dont think looking through old files is high on her list of priorities right now. Anyway, I guess that leaves us with one less of a "lead". What to do next? Anybody want to help me with posting ads on the usedeverywhere websites or come up with an ad format to use?

 

[Tom Friendly]

Great to see so many people still talking about this thread that I started over a year ago. I came back today to visit and much to my surprise you're all still on the case.

Was Michael Hammond ever ruled out?

 

[Sillybilly]

The only thing that doesnt fit is that his eye color is listed as green where as the unidentifed is blue.

New to this thread, but familiar with the case. Don't let the eye colour steer you off. I can't recall the explanation, but after my son died, his autopsy report stated he had blue eyes when his eyes were in fact brown. The coroner said it was not uncommon for the eyes of a deceased to appear blue.

The Christmas Rose pin has always intrigued me because Victoria Kathleen Fawkes was murdered in BC in 2005, and with her burned remains was a Christmas Rose pin. It was slightly different in appearance than the one found with Regina's John Doe.

 

[Tom Friendly]

Hi everybody, I'm new here but have been following a local case for a while now. I am only now trying to get involved in finding out the identity of this man in some sort of way. Here's the information that is available.

The verse on the modest, granite headstone at Regina’s Riverside Cemetery reads, “Come to me all you who are weary and burdened – Matt. 11:28”. The name inscribed on the face of the marker is “John Doe”. The manner of his passing from this life is known; he died on a railway track west of Regina on July 28, 1995. Ten years later, his identity eludes all who’ve tried to confirm it. Why he chose to end his life may never be known. At a time when the public is so aware of the issue of missing persons, it’s puzzling that there can be a “found” person, here in Regina, who must be missing from somewhere. Somewhere in this country or the U.S., is there a family wondering what’s become of their son or brother?

On Friday, July 28, 1995, at about 3:40 p.m., police were dispatched to the
Canadian Pacific Railway crossing at 13th Avenue and Courtney Street for a report of a fatality. Police interviewed two CP rail employees who had just witnessed a young man come from the ditch on the south side of the tracks and position himself in the path of an eastbound, four-locomotive train hauling 104 boxcars. The crew was unable to stop the train, which was traveling approximately 65-70 kilometres per hour as it approached the crossing. The railway traffic control arm was down and the red warning lights were functioning. The victim was killed instantly by the impact. The police investigation that followed left no doubt that the man’s death was a suicide, but police now faced a new challenge: who was this man?

Here is an official link with more information http://www.reginapolice.ca/john_doe/Backgrounder.pdf

and a link of the facial reconstruction picture, not graphic!
http://www.reginapolice.ca/john_doe/john_doe_large.jpg

If anybody has the time to help me find possible matches please post them! There was a topic started with only a few replies of possible matches. I have e-mailed them to the detective working on this case and he told me that it has been pursued with no success. I e-mailed him back asking if there was DNA and/or dentals available and have yet to hear from him. It took him about two weeks to reply to me the first time.

Thanks everybody, hope to hear from you.

Hi Dayana,

Can you please confirm WHICH names you submitted to the detective and who was ruled out?

 

[Tom Friendly]

Are you still able to edit the 1st post? If not, perhaps seeing if a mod can change 1985 to 1995

That wasn't my typo. Although wrong it does say 1985 on that webpage.

 

[Tom Friendly]

"Boca Authentic" appears to be a clothing company based in Montreal. Another hint that he's probably from eastern Canada.

Boca is actually based out of Pacific Palasades, CA.

I wouldnt pay too much attention to the clothes. In the case that I solved the man was wearing a "Beautiful BC" T-shirt even though he was missing out of Buffalo NY. When you're a drifter you wear whatever you can get, hence the size 12.5 shoes on a 9.5 foot.

 

[Tom Friendly]

I think the crest is the old Ralph Lauren "Chaps" logo. It was discussed on another thread somewhere.

I second this thought. As an avid Polo collector my first thought was Ralph Lauren Chaps.

 

[Tom Friendly]

Here is a tip sheet of interesting points of information gathered about this case:

-White Male between 20-30 Years Old
-5'9, 140-160lbs
-Associated with or broke up recently with a woman named "Kathy"
-Had a Silver or Gold (depending on accounts/pictures) Rose Brooch in pocket
-Had stretch marks around navel, may have been overweight at some point in life
-Said his name was "David" and/or "Brian from Ontario"
-Wore Boca Authentic T-shirt under a black denim button shirt with crest (crest brand to be verified) size 12.5 white reebok shoe (with size 9.5 feet)
-Liked Stephen King Novels and Politics
-Wrote in a diary with a Silver fountain pen
-Clean, well manured, did not know street slang
-Hitchhiked on July 22nd from Strathmore, AB (Just east of Calgary) to Swift Current, SK and then onto Regina AB where he arrived on July 24, 1995. He was traveling in an Eastern direction
-May have been in Kamloops, BC, at Padova City Resorts Inc. (Kamloops is in line with the direction of travel and does make sense)
-Spoke of heading home "Back east"

Questions that I've had:
-If he originated in Kamloops could he perhaps be from Vancouver or Washington State or Oregon?
-What type of politics was he talking about with the hitchhiker, Canadian or American? I'm assuming Canadian
-How much of the drawing can we base it on? Acording to rail workers he laid his head on the rail before the train hit which to me means that he could look very different from the drawing.
-Has there been a follow up interview with his travel companion?
-Where is the diary and pen?
-Was there a campsite nearby that authorities missed?
-Anyone reading this post that lives around the site of his death?

People who have been rulled out:
Allan Kenley Matheson


Potential matches:

Glen Allan Moquin
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/521dmqc.html

William Bouchard
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/581dmqc.html

Michael Hammond (My Personal top pick)
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/280dmbc.html

David Nixon
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/230dmon.html

Steven Needham
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1351dmwa.html

 

[Tom Friendly]

This is interesting... I looked into PADOVA CITY RESORTS. Padova City AKA Tranquille is just past the Kamloops airport and get this:

"Turns out it's not a city at all but a small town that was used to house tuberculosis patients and it was completely self-sufficient! They grew their own crops, they butchered their own cattle and pigs.. and then they all died. There's a railroad that winds through the center of the town that would bring them supplies but other than the doctors and nurses who lived on-site there was no contact with the outside world.. There came a time where everyone did die (thousands) and instead of plowing the land and re-building, they turned the whole place into a huge mental hospital"
- http://www.opacity.us/forum/index.php?topic=1129.0

Also of interesting note... sometime before November 2002 the 'owner' of Padova City killed himself. That is according to this: http://widgets.ivancouver.com/local/boardmesg/297.html

and the start of that thread is here: http://widgets.ivancouver.com/local/boardmesg/1135.html

Check out the history on Padova here:
http://tranquille.ca/history.html

"In 1991 Giovanni Camporese, A & A Foods of Vancouver, BC purchased the property to establish "Padova City" a multi-faceted Italian theme resort. Several years later he defaulted on his mortgage payments."​

Is Giovanni the owner who commited suicide? "Several Years later" Why was our guy in Padova City? Was our unidentified potentially working on that site when the development dream colapsed?

Somethings new to think about anyway!

To whomever is in contact with the detectives. Please ask what the Padova City connection is for me.

​

 

[Tom Friendly]

Lastly here is a map of the route he traveled.

Kamloops, BC
Strathmore, AB
Swift Current, SK
Regina, SK

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sou...4,-107.446289&spn=13.278584,41.879883&t=h&z=5

 

[Roselvr]

That wasn't my typo. Although wrong it does say 1985 on that webpage.

No big deal, it's been fixed in your post.

 

[Danaya]

I am in contact with the detective but it takes her a while to reply, I don't want to ask too many questions and "scare her away" or whatever. I think the best idea is posting his pictures on used everywhere websites which is a very popular Canadian classified website. If anybody wants to help that would be great, I can make a seperate e-mail account to field replies.

I do live near the site and it is just a regular railway. There is only one railroad throughout the city and this is the easiest to get in front of because it's secluded. He probably took a bus to the railway or even walked. He could have hid and nobody would have known, whereas if he was in the middle of the city he would have been seen. He probably just felt comfortable being on the outskirts a little.

There aren't many missing people reports in that era, I think we are looking for someone missing maybe from 1994 and up since he was not living on the streets. If there are listed missing before then I don't think it is likely. I submitted two people, Allan Kenley Matheson and another man who had schitzophrenia. I was unable to find more matches but can look again. Perhaps he wasn't reported missing until months or even years after his death when he never came home from his travels.

 

[Danaya]

Here is a tip sheet of interesting points of information gathered about this case:

-White Male between 20-30 Years Old
-5'9, 140-160lbs
-Associated with or broke up recently with a woman named "Kathy"
-Had a Silver or Gold (depending on accounts/pictures) Rose Brooch in pocket
-Had stretch marks around navel, may have been overweight at some point in life
-Said his name was "David" and/or "Brian from Ontario"
-Wore Boca Authentic T-shirt under a black denim button shirt with crest (crest brand to be verified) size 12.5 white reebok shoe (with size 9.5 feet)
-Liked Stephen King Novels and Politics
-Wrote in a diary with a Silver fountain pen
-Clean, well manured, did not know street slang
-Hitchhiked on July 22nd from Strathmore, AB (Just east of Calgary) to Swift Current, SK and then onto Regina AB where he arrived on July 24, 1995. He was traveling in an Eastern direction
-May have been in Kamloops, BC, at Padova City Resorts Inc. (Kamloops is in line with the direction of travel and does make sense)
-Spoke of heading home "Back east"

Questions that I've had:
-If he originated in Kamloops could he perhaps be from Vancouver or Washington State or Oregon?
-What type of politics was he talking about with the hitchhiker, Canadian or American? I'm assuming Canadian
-How much of the drawing can we base it on? Acording to rail workers he laid his head on the rail before the train hit which to me means that he could look very different from the drawing.
-Has there been a follow up interview with his travel companion?
-Where is the diary and pen?
-Was there a campsite nearby that authorities missed?
-Anyone reading this post that lives around the site of his death?

People who have been rulled out:
Allan Kenley Matheson


Potential matches:

Glen Allan Moquin
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/521dmqc.html

William Bouchard
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/581dmqc.html

Michael Hammond (My Personal top pick)
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/280dmbc.html

David Nixon
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/230dmon.html

Steven Needham
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1351dmwa.html

Going through the old e-mails... Ugh, I rambled quite a bit and they were very unprofessional as my writing wasn't very polished. Since then I have taken a communications class but I hope she doesn't think I'm just some rambling weirdo! She seems very busy and I don't think this is on her list of priorities.

Steven Needham has been eliminated. William Bouchard has been eliminated. Michael Hammond, your top pick, has also been eliminated. I don't see David Nixon being eliminated as he had been missing for over ten years since the Doe was found.

 

[rhyno1974]

This is interesting... I looked into PADOVA CITY RESORTS. Padova City AKA Tranquille is just past the Kamloops airport and get this:

"Turns out it's not a city at all but a small town that was used to house tuberculosis patients and it was completely self-sufficient! They grew their own crops, they butchered their own cattle and pigs.. and then they all died. There's a railroad that winds through the center of the town that would bring them supplies but other than the doctors and nurses who lived on-site there was no contact with the outside world.. There came a time where everyone did die (thousands) and instead of plowing the land and re-building, they turned the whole place into a huge mental hospital"
- http://www.opacity.us/forum/index.php?topic=1129.0

Also of interesting note... sometime before November 2002 the 'owner' of Padova City killed himself. That is according to this: http://widgets.ivancouver.com/local/boardmesg/297.html

and the start of that thread is here: http://widgets.ivancouver.com/local/boardmesg/1135.html

Check out the history on Padova here:
http://tranquille.ca/history.html

"In 1991 Giovanni Camporese, A & A Foods of Vancouver, BC purchased the property to establish "Padova City" a multi-faceted Italian theme resort. Several years later he defaulted on his mortgage payments."​

Is Giovanni the owner who commited suicide? "Several Years later" Why was our guy in Padova City? Was our unidentified potentially working on that site when the development dream colapsed?

Somethings new to think about anyway!

To whomever is in contact with the detectives. Please ask what the Padova City connection is for me.

Here is a link with an explanation of the Padova City connection. He had one of their T-Shirts in his possesion.

http://www.sacp.ca/missing/details.php?id=97

 

[hyldo]

I thought that David Thomas Block, missing from ON since May 1995 may have been a possible match. I received word today from the OPP that he has been ruled out. Here's Block's Doe Network page: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1975dmon.html

 

[Danaya]

What does everyone think of this as a possible match?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/branton_david.html

I searched for Davids on the charley project since the JD called himself David and after searching through Canadian databases, I couldn't find anyone so decided to try American.

He is from the midwest, physical description matches, he seems well to do and has a history of substance abuse problems which may have triggered a depression. He would have been missing for two years though before commiting suicide in Regina.

 

[Danaya]

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/block_david.html

This is a likely one because the man went missing only two months prior to the suicide and had ties to Canada where was reported missing. He also had mental health problems. Physical descriptions match.

ETA: I want to call this one in but don't know what I would say. Any suggestions?

 

[Cymro]

Looks good, slightly unusual circumstances (and you'd maybe expect David to have gotten more accustomed to the lifestyle after two years on the road) but sure, the case is unusual to start with so it certainly seems like a strong possibility.

 

[Danaya]

Cymro,

I'm thinking the second match I found seems like an even more likely one since he was last seen in Washington two months before he died and had ties to Ontario.