Canada - Richard Oland, 69, brutally murdered, St John, NB, 7 July 2011

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I saw the first two two installments of the CBC series. Does anyone know where I can find the next two? I've tried to find them online. TIA
I finally found them today on youtube, but you have to pay for them.. although they are inexpensive. Anyone know if they can be found elsewhere for free? I'm not sure how the paying thing works or where they go to or how long they last, etc?

The Oland Murder: Season 1 - YouTube
 
I was looking for the CBC mini series again.. and instead came across some points of interest. I missed parts however, so I have to watch the danged thing again ;/ But of interest, he spoke about two witnesses who were walking to a nearby restaurant about 7:25pm that evening and heard men's voices yelling. Not sure why the defence didn't jump on that. Also of interest, he spoke about who I believe was said to have been RO's best friend 'Bob' (also his accountant) and his son who had been doing construction.. he was never looked into, and now runs the company.

Also interesting (to me) that DO described his youngest sister Lisa saying that RO's gf used to be seen on the family's street, and used to make weird phonecall hangups, like stalker-ish type behavior. imo.


Can I just add.... DO "accidentally" txted his sister Lisa when he meant to txt his wife, however ignored a call from his wife during the time of the 3rd meeting.....

Its possible the sister was involved. And yes what's the deal with McFadden? I wonder if he and DO ever hung out.. had a Moosehead together, lol
 
I was looking for the CBC mini series again.. and instead came across some points of interest. I missed parts however, so I have to watch the danged thing again ;/ But of interest, he spoke about two witnesses who were walking to a nearby restaurant about 7:25pm that evening and heard men's voices yelling. Not sure why the defence didn't jump on that. Also of interest, he spoke about who I believe was said to have been RO's best friend 'Bob' (also his accountant) and his son who had been doing construction.. he was never looked into, and now runs the company.

Also interesting (to me) that DO described his youngest sister Lisa saying that RO's gf used to be seen on the family's street, and used to make weird phonecall hangups, like stalker-ish type behavior. imo.


Can I just add.... DO "accidentally" txted his sister Lisa when he meant to txt his wife, however ignored a call from his wife during the time of the 3rd meeting.....

Its possible the sister was involved. And yes what's the deal with McFadden? I wonder if he and DO ever hung out.. had a Moosehead together, lol
I finally found them today on youtube, but you have to pay for them.. although they are inexpensive. Anyone know if they can be found elsewhere for free? I'm not sure how the paying thing works or where they go to or how long they last, etc?

The Oland Murder: Season 1 - YouTube


Go to Gem website and the whole thing streams free... its some sort of app
 
Apparently one of the women who co-produced the CBC miniseries is the daughter of DO's defence attorney.

A co-producer of a major documentary series on the Richard Oland murder case broadcast by the CBC is the daughter of Dennis Oland's lead defence lawyer, CBC News has learned.
....
Gold Teitelbaum "provided the producers with unprecedented access to the defendant, as well as his defence team," Thompson said.


"She received an associate producer credit as a courtesy and while we acknowledge the family connection could be perceived as a conflict of interest, Caitlin had no editorial input."
....
Wainwright did not reveal in that interview that her co-producer's father was Oland's defence lawyer.
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Kimber said audience members would "have a hard job" distinguishing between CBC News content and an independently produced documentary, and in any case the corporation owes it to its audience to be up front about the Gold link.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-dennis-oland-alan-gold-oland-murder-1.5488634


Learning this info is what caused me to watch the doc! Its DO's team trying to control the narrative so he can continue living it up as a local celebrity in Saint John. I grew up in Hampton. It upsets me, so I began analyzing his statements for lies. If he is going to start talking, I will find the embedded confessions and put together what really happened. As a form of justice, haha.... Who's with me?
 
Learning this info is what caused me to watch the doc! Its DO's team trying to control the narrative so he can continue living it up as a local celebrity in Saint John. I grew up in Hampton. It upsets me, so I began analyzing his statements for lies. If he is going to start talking, I will find the embedded confessions and put together what really happened. As a form of justice, haha.... Who's with me?
Personally I don't believe DO did this, and I'm really perturbed that police didn't seem to bother checking *anything/anybody* else out. Another case of police tunnel vision. By the time it comes to light, too much time has passed to gather the evidence on other things that should've been gathered right away. imo.
 
.... Its DO's team trying to control the narrative so he can continue living it up as a local celebrity in Saint John. ....
As far as I understand.. the producers were given 'access' to files and video, etc., but I don't believe the family was given free reign to control the narrative. In the announcement it says, ""She received an associate producer credit as a courtesy and while we acknowledge the family connection could be perceived as a conflict of interest, Caitlin had no editorial input.""
jmo.
 
Frankly the first people I would've been looking closely into would've been RO's girlfriend, and her husband. Although due to his age it seems unlikely he would've participated physically in such an event, he easily may have set it up. His phone records were not even checked. smh.

And that gf, based on what I've read about her texts and her manner of communicating with RO, I get a vibe of a 'Fatal Attraction' type of thing going on there.

Nobody bothered to search their home, or to see if any of either of those people's clothing had blood spatter, etc.
 
Frankly the first people I would've been looking closely into would've been RO's girlfriend, and her husband. Although due to his age it seems unlikely he would've participated physically in such an event, he easily may have set it up. His phone records were not even checked. smh.

And that gf, based on what I've read about her texts and her manner of communicating with RO, I get a vibe of a 'Fatal Attraction' type of thing going on there.

Nobody bothered to search their home, or to see if any of either of those people's clothing had blood spatter, etc.
Bingo!!
 
Against popular beliefs, I feel the GF had nothing to do with it.

I feel this way for a number of reasons. One of those is because of how deceptive DO is during the interrogation- I am instantly drawn to him, knowing he is involved somehow. It would be hard to imagine DO and Diane conspiring on this together! She had nothing to gain from the death and had future plans with RO.

In Diane, I don't detect deception so much as anti-social bitchiness. Her sugar daddy/pay cheque is now gone and she's pissed! Her secret affair has been revealed in the most overt way. Her emotional reaction to all this is logical. She is drawing attention, she's shocked, appalled, in horror... shutting down. The Killer prob wouldn't be comfortable outside the office on the morning after- lurking around, asking questions, trying to enter the building..

During the interrogation-DO never gets angry that he's being accused, that the officer is wasting time, the killer is walking free. Wouldn't any normal person get upset about being accused? or even show upset at finding out your dad was murdered. Especially if the cop didn't tell you right away.

Not if you already reconciled the death in you mind and were at peace with it. Dennis is a person who is trying to "act" innocent. A person trying to prove through endless conversation that he is just not capable of it. Innocent people don't feel a need to do that.

The CBC doc is all about the red herrings. I believe that DO felt he could use Diane as a red herring. I mean... his dad had a cray cray stalker. Thats a score for him! Whenever he speculates during his interrogation about who may have done it- it's either a crackhead or the mistress. This man doesn't know what happened but feels fine speculating who did it....

I think DO did this with an accomplice. Maybe a family member and a hitman. An accomplice brought and removed the murder weapon. And possibly did the actual killing. While DO provided access to the office, ensured his father was there alone, and payed the killer at a later time.
 
Judge T. Morrison, who found DO not guilty, did so by correctly following the rule of being guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt". There was definitely reasonable doubt in this case. His 146 page written ruling is included in the following link, as well as a synopsis of his reasons for the not guilty verdict. I totally agree with the judge, and feel that this case was too complicated for a jury to truly understand the concept of reasonable doubt.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-...-not-guilty-murder-retrial-decision-1.5216556
 
Against popular beliefs, I feel the GF had nothing to do with it.

I feel this way for a number of reasons. One of those is because of how deceptive DO is during the interrogation- I am instantly drawn to him, knowing he is involved somehow. It would be hard to imagine DO and Diane conspiring on this together! She had nothing to gain from the death and had future plans with RO.

In Diane, I don't detect deception so much as anti-social bitchiness. Her sugar daddy/pay cheque is now gone and she's pissed! Her secret affair has been revealed in the most overt way. Her emotional reaction to all this is logical. She is drawing attention, she's shocked, appalled, in horror... shutting down. The Killer prob wouldn't be comfortable outside the office on the morning after- lurking around, asking questions, trying to enter the building..

During the interrogation-DO never gets angry that he's being accused, that the officer is wasting time, the killer is walking free. Wouldn't any normal person get upset about being accused? or even show upset at finding out your dad was murdered. Especially if the cop didn't tell you right away.

Not if you already reconciled the death in you mind and were at peace with it. Dennis is a person who is trying to "act" innocent. A person trying to prove through endless conversation that he is just not capable of it. Innocent people don't feel a need to do that.

The CBC doc is all about the red herrings. I believe that DO felt he could use Diane as a red herring. I mean... his dad had a cray cray stalker. Thats a score for him! Whenever he speculates during his interrogation about who may have done it- it's either a crackhead or the mistress. This man doesn't know what happened but feels fine speculating who did it....

I think DO did this with an accomplice. Maybe a family member and a hitman. An accomplice brought and removed the murder weapon. And possibly did the actual killing. While DO provided access to the office, ensured his father was there alone, and payed the killer at a later time.

Just a comment regarding DO never getting upset during the interrogation...My impression was the officers tried their darnest to push every button to get DO to “lose it”. In turn, angry behaviour, body language and outbursts would’ve pointed toward capability of committing the type of rage murder strongly indicated by the crime scene. Instead he maintained his cool throughout the entire interrogation.

On the topic of someone just acting innocent versus truly being innocent of murder, I don’t think any of us here can tell one from another, especially of a stranger. But that DO’s family members supported him throughout has got to mean something IMO.
 
Judge T. Morrison, who found DO not guilty, did so by correctly following the rule of being guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt". There was definitely reasonable doubt in this case. His 146 page written ruling is included in the following link, as well as a synopsis of his reasons for the not guilty verdict. I totally agree with the judge, and feel that this case was too complicated for a jury to truly understand the concept of reasonable doubt.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-...-not-guilty-murder-retrial-decision-1.5216556

I agree. This was an interesting case and with two differing verdicts - Jury trial and Judge alone retrial. It probably would’ve been a very emotional trial for the jury to sit through and we’ll never know exactly what influenced their Guilty verdict, but in reading the Judge’s synopsis of the retrial the reasonable doubt certainly stands out.
 
Judge T. Morrison, who found DO not guilty, did so by correctly following the rule of being guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt". There was definitely reasonable doubt in this case. His 146 page written ruling is included in the following link, as well as a synopsis of his reasons for the not guilty verdict. I totally agree with the judge, and feel that this case was too complicated for a jury to truly understand the concept of reasonable doubt.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-...-not-guilty-murder-retrial-decision-1.5216556
Thanks for posting that link to download. Turns out I had already dl'd it, but I had not read through it all before. From those remarks it seems to me that they had very little with which to prosecute DO in the first place. Too bad juries in Canada aren't allowed to ever speak of what goes on inside the deliberations room, as it would be interesting to know how they ever came up with a conviction in the first place.
 
Judge T. Morrison, who found DO not guilty, did so by correctly following the rule of being guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt". There was definitely reasonable doubt in this case. His 146 page written ruling is included in the following link, as well as a synopsis of his reasons for the not guilty verdict. I totally agree with the judge, and feel that this case was too complicated for a jury to truly understand the concept of reasonable doubt.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-...-not-guilty-murder-retrial-decision-1.5216556


Thanks so much for the link. It's a long read and I am working my way through. I appreciate your opinion that the verdict is fair, in the circumstance. I apprehensively agree.

Whoever murdered Richard planned it. This is an organized crime designed to appear disorganized. Its staged. IMO only.
 
There isn't much written about the 'mistress', but wow, it's maddening to think LE didn't seem to consider her a possibility enough to seriously look at. I was shocked to hear that although she'd had a lie detector, police had actually 'lost' the data, so the specialist couldn't get access to it. (That was in the miniseries.) From what he *was* able to view, she had had a reaction worth following up on, when asked if she'd murdered RO. Then I think about how we he hadn't been responding to her texts for most of the day... and how he'd just returned from a fishing trip (presumably NOT with her), and how as soon as he got back, she was on him, on him, on him, to make plans to go away.. and then the little snippets we were able to read from an email that she had sent to RO a few months earlier. I had only been basing my impression of her as a 'fatal attraction' star on so little, but to find out a little bit more makes me wonder even more why she was never checked out fully. Her alibi was that she had been home with her husband. Did they even verify that with him? According to MSM, her husband did not learn of the 8-year affair until some 15 months after RO's murder, so was he even questioned about his wife's whereabouts (or his own whereabouts) in the days following the murder? I'm thinking *not*, since if he had, he would've wondered how he and his wife would've been a concern to be questioned in the case and it wouldn't have taken 15 months to find out about the affair!

I think it is just so unfair that other things weren't checked out. Where would the cell tower have pinged if the mistress had the phone on her way to her home after potentially killing him? Where did both her and her husband's cellphones tell police where they were at the time of the killing?

"Jiri Sedlacek, 87, testified he first learned of the affair about 15 months later, when his lawyer shared a media report about it with him."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/oland-trial-mistress-sedlacek-1.3312019
 
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Where would the cell tower have pinged if the mistress had the phone on her way to her home after potentially killing him? Where did both her and her husband's cellphones tell police where they were at the time of the killing?

DS (mistress) trip home would pass the same area where RO's phone pinged off the cell tower in Rothesay. She lived north of Rothesay.

At the second trial, DO's defense objected to the prosecution calling either DS or her then estranged husband as witnesses. I think they felt that her testimony would be too damaging toward DO, and that is likely why they had declined to question her at the first trial.

Since LE had never checked JS (husband) cell phone, there was no evidence to point the blame toward him. I recall that LE did check SD's cell phone, which showed that she made calls from home.
 

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