Identified! Canada - Rosedale, Toronto, BlkFem (Afr mix), 4-7, in constr dumpster, PMI sum/fall'21, 2 May 2022 - Neveah Tucker

[Lexiintoronto]

https://www.canlii.org/en/on/oncj/doc/2024/2024oncj335/2024oncj335.html

This case seems to be related and seems to show the mother of the girl identified as NV in the court docs giving explaination of what her alibi was and why she didn’t come forward. It’s quite suspect to hear. Take a read!

Thank you so much for finding and posting the canlii link. It clears up so many mysteries.

Neveah’s remains were wrapped in a baby blanket, a garbage bag and then a colourful fabric. I think those items might lead back to the mother, imo. In the canlii document it said that Neveah was found with her favourite blanket. (My guess is the blanket with butterflies). I had the impression a mother had wrapped her remains and now I think that more than ever.
I don’t see strangers taking the effort to wrap the remains with care the way Neveah was, imo. And then taking the huge risk of moving the remains from where they had been stored only to place them in a private dumpster on someone’s driveway.

 

[dotr]

Front page pic. and a full 3 pages in today's hard copy newspaper.

Almost everyone failed her. Then she vanished. The heartbreaking story of the girl in the Rosedale dumpster

The grisly discover in one of Toronto’s richest postal codes stunned the city.

www.thestar.com

By Wendy GillisCrime Reporter, and Jennifer PagliaroCrime Reporter

'For 14 months, she was a ghost.
No name. No story. Not even a missing person’s report.
And so she was defined by a contractor’s unthinkable discovery on a cloudy spring day in 2022, in one of Toronto’s richest postal codes, steps from some of the city’s most lavish homes. There, wrapped in blankets and placed in a cherry red disposal bin, were the decomposed remains of a child.
The girl in the Rosedale dumpster.'

 

[iamshadow21]

Front page pic. and a full 3 pages in today's hard copy newspaper.
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Almost everyone failed her. Then she vanished. The heartbreaking story of the girl in the Rosedale dumpster

The grisly discover in one of Toronto’s richest postal codes stunned the city.

www.thestar.com

By Wendy GillisCrime Reporter, and Jennifer PagliaroCrime Reporter

'For 14 months, she was a ghost.
No name. No story. Not even a missing person’s report.
And so she was defined by a contractor’s unthinkable discovery on a cloudy spring day in 2022, in one of Toronto’s richest postal codes, steps from some of the city’s most lavish homes. There, wrapped in blankets and placed in a cherry red disposal bin, were the decomposed remains of a child.
The girl in the Rosedale dumpster.'

Can anyone with a subscription let us know if there's any new information? There's a paywall for me, and buying a hard copy from Australia isn't really a practical option.

 

[Ceedee]

Can anyone with a subscription let us know if there's any new information? There's a paywall for me, and buying a hard copy from Australia isn't really a practical option.

When the police first identified her, they said that genetic genealogy and a well timed, but not specific, tip let them narrow it down to her quickly. The article explains what it was:

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[Ceedee]

“A critical fact went unsaid as Neveah was identified to the world.

Far from a mystery child — an undocumented immigrant, or a new arrival in Canada, as authorities first theorized — Neveah had, for most of her life, been in the care of the province’s child protection agencies. She was far from untraceable.

After police blasted out the sketch of Neveah and her approximate age and ethnicity, she should have been identifiable to those directly involved in her care, Irwin Elman, who served as Ontario’s Child Advocate from 2008 to 2019, told the Star.

“How is it possible that nobody in the Children’s Aid would read the newspaper, see the picture … even circulate the picture among staff and foster parents and say, ‘Do we know this girl? Do we know this blanket? Are we concerned?’”

“If (CAS) did not know, that is either incompetence or it’s obstruction — that they knew and didn’t say,” he said.”

 

[iamshadow21]

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That's pretty damning. I'd be surprised if there aren't internal investigations. This was a known, at risk, vulnerable child, placed with a parent who had not shown in any significant way that she had changed and could provide a safe, loving environment. There should have been regular check ins, even with COVID.

MOO

 

[Ceedee]

It sounds like the police are in the frustrating position of knowing her mom’s Tim Hortons story is obviously not true, but they lack the evidence to move on charges of any kind - there’s no evidence that isn’t what happened, and they don’t have a cause of death. The worst part is that that evidence might have been available had the fact she was missing been flagged soon.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Really a damning report for the CAS.

 

[dotr]

Full page article.

Children’s aid society standards are meant to protect kids. So how did a Toronto girl end up dead?

The girl found dead in a Rosedale dumpster had formerly been in CAS care.

www.thestar.com

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[AddyFinch]

That's pretty damning. I'd be surprised if there aren't internal investigations. This was a known, at risk, vulnerable child, placed with a parent who had not shown in any significant way that she had changed and could provide a safe, loving environment. There should have been regular check ins, even with COVID.

Yep!

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Between the CAS and the YOA, this country is in a mess.

 

[dotr]

Between the CAS and the YOA, this country is in a mess.

Get out of jail card, imo, speculation.
'She had previously accused CAS of racial profiling and discrimination, and did not have a good relationship with police''

Almost everyone failed her. Then she vanished. The heartbreaking story of the girl in the Rosedale dumpster

The grisly discover in one of Toronto’s richest postal codes stunned the city.

www.thestar.com

rbbm

 

[AddyFinch]

Can only think of the horrors that little girl sustained, and in the end, no one cared one iota about her. Thankfully technology was available to put a name to her sweet face.

 

[othram]

Can only think of the horrors that little girl sustained, and in the end, no one cared one iota about her. Thankfully technology was available to put a name to her sweet face.

It is why we do what we do. There would be no answers otherwise.

 

[branmuffin]

Based on Neveah's history and her mother's disengaged parenting style, I wonder whether or not Neveah had Covid and died, and her mother, using the simplistic cunning she seems to possess decided bundling her body and dumping it in a dumpster was a good way to avoid any issues with CSA staff. She seems pretty adroit at creating a narrative that absolves her of any blame for her child's death, blaming it on the fictitious couple who fooled her so thoroughly pretending to provide a better life for the girl. I don't know if she'll ever be charged, although, giving your child to perfect strangers could be construed as deliberate misconduct or child endangerment. Surely, there is something she could be charged with.

 

[iamshadow21]

Based on Neveah's history and her mother's disengaged parenting style, I wonder whether or not Neveah had Covid and died, and her mother, using the simplistic cunning she seems to possess decided bundling her body and dumping it in a dumpster was a good way to avoid any issues with CSA staff. She seems pretty adroit at creating a narrative that absolves her of any blame for her child's death, blaming it on the fictitious couple who fooled her so thoroughly pretending to provide a better life for the girl. I don't know if she'll ever be charged, although, giving your child to perfect strangers could be construed as deliberate misconduct or child endangerment. Surely, there is something she could be charged with.

I still wonder where she stored Neveah's body for nearly a year. When it was placed in the dumpster, it was not immediately after she died. A storage locker? A freezer? And why move it from where it was to the dumpster, if it had gone undiscovered for so long?

MOO

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

And how/why choose a Rosedale dumpster? The mother appears to be very disorganized so, for me, it's difficult to believe the mother had the sweet butterfly blanket for Neveah. JMO

 

[caradana]

Two thoughts,
(1) so grateful her remains were found back in 2022. That was a construction site dumpster. MOO: minor miracle she was found. She was, so we know. If that discovery hadn’t been made, in all likelihood, MOO: there would never have been justice.
(2) I’ve never seen the following proposed in either the US or Canada (and I’d love to be wrong), but I’d get behind a law that gathered DNA for minors in the care system at time of entry and made it available to LE. That would’ve identified this girl on discovery, and these kids sadly and disproportionately appear in victimized populations later in life. MOO: I’m sure there would be a fierce civil liberties counterargument (“you’re profiling. And you’re assuming these kids will turn out to be criminals!”) … but I think this ethical question is one generation away from irrelevance. One more generation of DNA markers with the associated rise in big data and everyone in a first-world country is going to be identifiable.

 

[musicaljoke]

Two thoughts,
(1) so grateful her remains were found back in 2022. That was a construction site dumpster. MOO: minor miracle she was found. She was, so we know. If that discovery hadn’t been made, in all likelihood, MOO: there would never have been justice.
(2) I’ve never seen the following proposed in either the US or Canada (and I’d love to be wrong), but I’d get behind a law that gathered DNA for minors in the care system at time of entry and made it available to LE. That would’ve identified this girl on discovery, and these kids sadly and disproportionately appear in victimized populations later in life. MOO: I’m sure there would be a fierce civil liberties counterargument (“you’re profiling. And you’re assuming these kids will turn out to be criminals!”) … but I think this ethical question is one generation away from irrelevance. One more generation of DNA markers with the associated rise in big data and everyone in a first-world country is going to be identifiable.

Gathering DNA from minors and making it available to the police will never happen in Canada. While I understand the sentiment, there is a huge potential for all kinds of privacy breaches. Not all people want to be identifiable.

Parents have the opportunity to make fingerprint charts for their kids, but the parents keep those and would only offer them to LE if the unthinkable need arose.

 

[Ceedee]

And how/why choose a Rosedale dumpster? The mother appears to be very disorganized so, for me, it's difficult to believe the mother had the sweet butterfly blanket for Neveah. JMO

The article mentions that Neveah and her brother were enrolled at (but never attended) Church Street Daycare in the Gay Village, which is 2km/about a five minute drive from the dumpster on Dale Avenue. I think it’s possible her mother lived in the area and may have noticed that dumpsters/junk bins used for residential renos tend to be some of the only ones in the city that aren’t consistently locked up.