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I posted this in the original thread but figured I'd say this here too in case anyone reads it:

I did some of my own research on the Sanskrit alphabet to try to read the tattoo-- I think the tattoo is primarily a stylized "fake" Sanskrit tattoo. I was able to identify only two letters-- the letters that look like 3-T are "a" in Sanskrit. I wasn't able to identify the first two letter though, which appear to be the same. So I don't think the tattoo has any cultural significance for that reason, along with the fact it's surrounded by other star tattoos.

I've read about dismembered female bodies popping up in the city over the past year, a lot found floating in canals and rivers. I think it's easy to pin found female decedents in NYC/LI on LISK and a part of us almost wants his "work" to make an appearance again, but I'm going to argue this probably isn't his work and more likely gang related. Being chopped up and thrown in the water is a common way gangs dispose of their victims' bodies; if the body is chopped up, and the remains are scattered in various bodies of water, obviously it makes it harder to tie all the pieces together (no pun intended). It's organised in the sense it took some logic, but not organised in the way a truly organised, seasoned serial killer operates. Also the fact her torso was found in Gowanus makes me think it's even less likely LISK. No skilled murderer would be stupid enough to dump their victim in Gowanus.

I live in NYC now, and grew up within minutes of Gilgo Beach. I can tell you from firsthand account of seeing the environment in which the LISK bodies were dumped that it's EXTREMELY easy to conceal a body in the brush down there. And at night, there is absolutely no one on the highway, and when you do see someone on the highway at night it's always unsettling. There's brush, marsh, and reeds everywhere, and no one wants to go in them. People don't usually go poking around those areas which basically made it an ideal situation for LISK. But since the cat's out of the bag and everyone knows LISK's preferred dumping grounds, he probably knows better than to go dumping there again, or even around Jones Beach.

What I wonder now is, if he is still active and in the NYC/LI area, which I don't doubt, where's his new dumping ground? Basically any beach along the south shore is game, especially far enough out east where it gets really rural and desolate. LISK is definitely someone who either lived on Long Island when the murders occurred, grew up there, or worked there. I mean, even if I were an out of towner looking to dump a body, I'd say Gilgo Beach is a pretty good spot. That's fairly obvious. But the fact that those limbs were found in Manorville and then linked to remains on Gilgo Beach just drives home the fact he knows Long Island well. I wonder if perhaps he lives in New York City and does his dirty work on Long Island, having been a previous resident who knows the area well.
 
I posted this in the other thread as well, but one of the posters here was able to determine the script read "Ilyanna". She seems a little young at age 12 to have a tattoo, but in NYC an Illayana Colon has been missing from the Bronx for a few months. http://nypdnews.com/2017/04/missing-person-bronx-38/
Probably not her, but there are a few small, young girls missing from the Bronx over a period of months that have yet to be found. :( I don't think many of them have a thread here under missing persons so I had no idea how many there are.
 
I posted this in the other thread as well, but one of the posters here was able to determine the script read "Ilyanna". She seems a little young at age 12 to have a tattoo, but in NYC an Illayana Colon has been missing from the Bronx for a few months. http://nypdnews.com/2017/04/missing-person-bronx-38/
Probably not her, but there are a few small, young girls missing from the Bronx over a period of months that have yet to be found. :( I don't think many of them have a thread here under missing persons so I had no idea how many there are.
Unfortunately I remember seeing many missing persons posters of mostly Latina girls from the Bronx over the past 2-3 years in NYC... it's an epidemic LE isn't taking seriously but other people have noticed the frequency along with the demographic that seems to be targeted. 12 is really young to have a tattoo but you never know. I read in an article the remains found were estimated to be that of a 25-35 year old woman though.
 
Unfortunately I remember seeing many missing persons posters of mostly Latina girls from the Bronx over the past 2-3 years in NYC... it's an epidemic LE isn't taking seriously but other people have noticed the frequency along with the demographic that seems to be targeted. 12 is really young to have a tattoo but you never know. I read in an article the remains found were estimated to be that of a 25-35 year old woman though.
LE is finally admitting that so called runaways are actually victims of sex trafficking. This is a nationwide problem. Not just the Bx. Americas dirty little secret. Which also happens to be the name of a documentary.
 
Children are also brought into this country for sale. This is what the USA has been reduced to.SHAMEFUL.
 
May or may not be of interest...

Body Found In Burning Car At Jones Beach State Park
March 17, 2017

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/03/17/jones-beach-state-park-body/

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Body found inside burning vehicle at Jones Beach
March 18, 2017

http://longisland.news12.com/news/body-found-inside-burning-vehicle-at-jones-beach-1.13284181

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...Firefighters had the blaze under control in 15 minutes, Gross said, and when one of his captains looked inside, he saw the body in the front passenger seat.

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/official-body-found-after-vehicle-fire-at-jones-beach-1.13282385
 
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I'm curious if anyone has looked into the murder of Dina Mulato-Sadeghi? She was an escort who was found murdered in an Inwood marsh in 2005 in only underwear. While there are some differences between her case and LISK victims (she was older, she was Latina,detectives believe she was killed at the site rather than dumped there and the killer left behind some of her personal belongings), there are enough similarities (she was an escort, she wasn't an NYC native, she lived in Brooklyn and was found dead not far from where Sugar Bear's torso was found, she was found nearly nude and near water) I think this case deserves a look.

Woman's body found in Mott Basin Inlet: [NASSAU AND SUFFOLK Edition]
Dowdy, Zachary R. Newday Combined editions; Long Island, N.Y. [Long Island, N.Y]27 Aug 2005: A18.
The body of a partially dressed woman was found by a boater in a wooded, marshy area of Mott Basin Inlet in Inwood late Thursday, police said. Preliminary indications suggest she was the victim of a homicide several weeks ago.
"At this point, the autopsy results are pending," said Det. Sgt. Richard Laursen. "However, we are conducting the investigation as if it was a felonious homicide."
Laursen said the body may have been at the location for months, adding that neither the age nor the identity of the woman has been determined.
The boater found the body shortly after 10 p.m. Thursday. Authorities transported it to the morgue at Nassau University Medical Center in East Meadow for an autopsy.

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/boroughs/body-inwood-marsh-escort-cops-article-1.632083
http://liherald.com/stories/Body-found-in-Inwood-Detectives-search-for-clues-to-apparent-murder,9709
 

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Maybe lisk started out killing non working girls and then realized it was very risky?
I.e Tina foglia too. I realize that there are a few million people on long island so the odds of being multiple nut jobs is greater. But something about these murders and even going back to Jackie marterella feels like it has one common denominator.

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Jackie martarella was under 5 ft tall and weighed 95 pounds.

The other girl that went missing back in the eighties was Kelly Morrissey and she looks a lot like Megan waterman in the face.

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I am new and I am not sure where to post this. Apologies. Anyway, just wondering if anyone is interested in the Eve Wilkowitz case. She was followed, so she told her family, she was killed in 1980. I have read the LISK profiles and checked out the photos and she has a similar look. Mouth and eyes wise. It's the smile. Maybe not all the victim's eyes are dark though. She was held captive according to police, maybe sexually assaulted for three days. I can't believe this was this person's first attack. There was an attack in the area similar which no one linked to Lisk. Having said this LISK may kill differently to put people off the scent. This person doesn't seem to want to get caught. I think if LISK is Gilgo then he goes back, which takes out a lot of POIs. I think he must be at least 60 now. Maybe mid twenties around the time Eve went missing. Also, there is one more interesting thing. The ex City based BF of Eve, who was unaware she had another BF, as she never let him take the train with her, says she told him she always got the local taxi to her house from the station. Yet police paper reports state she always walked home....odd for both stories to be so different considering she went missing just after she left the train....taxi man?
 
I am new and I am not sure where to post this. Apologies. Anyway, just wondering if anyone is interested in the Eve Wilkowitz case. She was followed, so she told her family, she was killed in 1980. I have read the LISK profiles and checked out the photos and she has a similar look. Mouth and eyes wise. It's the smile. Maybe not all the victim's eyes are dark though. She was held captive according to police, maybe sexually assaulted for three days. I can't believe this was this person's first attack. There was an attack in the area similar which no one linked to Lisk. Having said this LISK may kill differently to put people off the scent. This person doesn't seem to want to get caught. I think if LISK is Gilgo then he goes back, which takes out a lot of POIs. I think he must be at least 60 now. Maybe mid twenties around the time Eve went missing. Also, there is one more interesting thing. The ex City based BF of Eve, who was unaware she had another BF, as she never let him take the train with her, says she told him she always got the local taxi to her house from the station. Yet police paper reports state she always walked home....odd for both stories to be so different considering she went missing just after she left the train....taxi man?
Welcome to Ws!
Started thread for Eve.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?345662-Eve-Wilkowitz-20-EAST-MEADOW-N-Y-25-March-1980&p=13544196#post13544196
[h=2]Eve Wilkowitz, 20, EAST MEADOW, N.Y. 25 March 1980
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/03/29/eve-wilkowitz-cold-case/[/h]
EAST MEADOW, N.Y. (CBSNewYork) — A Long Island woman is on a quest for justice in the murder of her sister nearly 40 years ago.

On March 25, 1980, Eve Wilkowitz was walking home from the Long Island Rail Road station in Bay Shore when she was kidnapped, held captive, sexually assaulted and strangled with a rope. She was 20 years old.

Her killer was never found.
Police said the case remains open.

“If you know something, say something,” Brociner said. “This person could be walking around still or they can be dead. I really just don’t know, it’s in my mind 24/7.”
 

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http://www.sundaypost.org/2017/09/0...beach-sparks-long-island-serial-killer-fears/

Is this website legit? I cannot find this story anywhere else. Thoughts?

Looked, but still unsure if this is legitimate news or not. FWIW, in Ontario, a female's torso was recently found in water, the photo of the area somehow reminded me of LISK.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?349193-Female-torso-found-in-water-Ontario-near-Oshawa-Harbour-9-12-17&p=13622204#post13622204
[h=2]Female torso found in water,Ontario near Oshawa Harbour, 9/12/17[/h]
 
Holy crap...

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Biancavilla later said outside court that Bittrolff not only hated women, but all life. He said Bittrolff, a hunter, had once wrestled a pig to the ground and slit its throat and had also cut out the heart of a deer he had just shot and ate it raw in the woods.

Biancavilla said Bittrolff likely has killed other women, and said some aspects of the bodies found over the years at Gilgo Beach were similar to what he’s done. He did not elaborate, but amateur sleuths on the web have long drawn parallels between the cases.

The first of 10 sets of remains believed to be the work of one or more serial killers in the Gilgo Beach area was found in 2010. The first four bodies were those of women in their 20s who worked as prostitutes and were found within a quarter of a mile from each other. The victims had been reported missing between 2007 and September 2010.

Asked about Biancavilla’s assertions, Suffolk County Assistant Police Commissioner Justin Meyers said: “The police department cannot comment on an ongoing homicide investigation.”

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/...encing-in-double-murder-1.14146418?pts=799304
 
In a bombshell announcement, the Suffolk County District Attorney did an “about face” in the Long Island Serial Killer investigation.

Thomas Spota acknowledged Tuesday a Manorville carpenter, 51-year-old John Bittrolff, could have killed some of the victims found on Gilgo Beach in 2010 and 2011.


John Bittrolff was charged with two counts of second degree murder in two decade-old cold case killings. (PIX11's Kenton Young)
“There are remains of the victims at Gilgo that may be attributed to the handiwork of Mr. Bittrolff and that investigation is continuing,” Spota’s office said in a hastily released statement.

It was a total reversal from what the district attorney said in July 2014, when Bittrolff, a married father of two, was arrested for two, cold case murders of sex workers in the early 1990s.

Back then, during a press conference, Spota testily said, “There is no evidentiary or investigative link between this case and Gilgo.”

More:http://pix11.com/2017/09/12/convicted-killer-may-be-tied-to-gilgo-beach-murders-prosecutor/
 
Posting pic in case it rings a bell for other cases.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/05/...itute-murders/


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/prosecu...-beach-deaths/
The trail that police said led to Bittrolff began with a DNA sample submitted by his brother Timothy Bittrolff following his misdemeanor conviction for violating an order of protection in 2013. State police investigators determined the sample was a partial match to DNA left on the two dead women.

Although his brother was eliminated as a murder suspect, police obtained a DNA sample from John Bittrolff's garbage left outside his Manorville home and later arrested him in the killings. His attorney said during the trial that evidence that Bittrolff had sex with the women was not enough to prove he was the killer.

Biancavilla said this was the first conviction in a homicide case in New York state involving "partial match" DNA.
 

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Biancavilla later said outside court that Bittrolff not only hated women, but all life. He said Bittrolff, a hunter, had once wrestled a pig to the ground and slit its throat and had also cut out the heart of a deer he had just shot and ate it raw in the woods.

Biancavilla said Bittrolff likely has killed other women, and said some aspects of the bodies found over the years at Gilgo Beach were similar to what he’s done. He did not elaborate, but amateur sleuths on the web have long drawn parallels between the cases.

The first of 10 sets of remains believed to be the work of one or more serial killers in the Gilgo Beach area was found in 2010. The first four bodies were those of women in their 20s who worked as prostitutes and were found within a quarter of a mile from each other. The victims had been reported missing between 2007 and September 2010.

Asked about Biancavilla’s assertions, Suffolk County Assistant Police Commissioner Justin Meyers said: “The police department cannot comment on an ongoing homicide investigation.”

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/...encing-in-double-murder-1.14146418?pts=799304
I go back and forth about bittrolfs guilt and wonder if he was framed.

However, i believe that if he did indeed kill these women, then he could be lisk and even the ac killer etc.

Eating a deer's heart that one kills is acceptable hunters behavior but wrestling a pig and slitting its throat is strange and evil behavior. He is odd.


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