Casey and Family Psych Profile #11

[Solace]

bbm
Yes, I do believe it has been mentioned but not about Cindy's side but about George's side of the family..
iirc grandma Shirley or her sister mention it in an email, it's about one of George's sisters with a mental illness..I think Cindy also mentions it...I know George did mention it in one of his LE interviews..
I believe it was bi-polar..and that they think Casey has it too...

KC has a little more than bi-polar disorder. SHE IS A FULL BLOWN SOCIOPATH. BI - Polars feel - this one kills a child, imo - lets not forget imo, leaves her in the trunk, calls her friends, meets Tony and rents two movies. And she kills her in the light of day. That is hate and no other word for it - hate for Cindy for sure.

Another thought, Cindy, according to her brother, wants nothing negative known about her family. She was happy to share good news, but not bad. She knows that the consensus is KC killed the child out of hatred for her mother and also to get rid of the thorn in her side. Cindy is calling KC her best friend to all who will listen and that, imo, is so she can say, you are all wrong, we have a very loving relationship.

What is the State going to do with that in its opening and closing. It is going to be interesting to see if Cindy will stay in the Courtroom - the Courtroom where KC sits and never acknowledges her.

KC more than likely in her own mind, blames Cindy for her plight.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Cindy herself is mentally ill.. Cindy needs help. The problem with this family is the mentally ill raising the mentally ill and living in denial about it. imo

I'm not sure how far in denial CA is, she is obviously drawing disability benefit on psychiatric grounds. Fortunately she discovered her 'illness' just in time to benefit financially from it..:innocent:

 

[Solace]

I'm not sure how far in denial CA is, she is obviously drawing disability benefit on psychiatric grounds. Fortunately she discovered her 'illness' just in time to benefit financially from it..:innocent:

Yes, but Cindy is saying she has a disability from what has happened, not from something prior.

 

[Aedrys]

bbm
Yes, I do believe it has been mentioned but not about Cindy's side but about George's side of the family..
iirc grandma Shirley or her sister mention it in an email, it's about one of George's sisters with a mental illness..I think Cindy also mentions it...I know George did mention it in one of his LE interviews..
I believe it was bi-polar..and that they think Casey has it too...

Yes, but he did mention it because he was truly concerned, or mention it to give Casey a way out of this, a reason for what she did? Obviously, he wasn't concerned enough to mention it before Caylee died, only afterwards. I'm thinking his family knew about his sister, but didn't talk much about her mental problems at all. I'm not saying mental illness was unknown in either side of the family, but it was definitely ignored and not taken care of.

 

[Leila]

I personally don't believe anything that came from keo or Joyce and Bailey Dickens.. I take it as gossip. I mean, we know that casey wasn't bringing guys over to the house- she brought TonE what, 1 time (we know because of the IM's). He wanted to come and she kept holding him off. She didn't bring anyone over there.. not even Amy. So I just have a hard time believing what they had to say. But that's just me.

In the interview the Dickens were repeating neighborhood gossip. Most of what the Dickens said has a basis in truth. While Casey wasn't bringing a slew of boyfriends to the house, she DID in fact go through a slew of boyfriends. With the exception of JG, Casey went through a lot of boyfriends during the 2007-2008 period.

The Dickens reported that Cindy was the neighborhood "witch" from heck" and said that she was very controlling. Knowing what we know about Cindy and her control of the Anthony household, I have no trouble accepting that as the truth.

The Dickens said that right after Caylee was born, Cindy threw George out of the house. They said the Anthonys were going to get a divorce, but then seven or eight months later, Cindy allowed George to come home. We know that's pretty much what happened. It's been stated by Cindy's brother, Rick Plesea, that there was a time when George and Cindy were separated and that George filed for divorce, but later they reconciled.

The Dickens said Cindy had a boyfriend during George's absence. That's something I don't think we knew about......so I don't know if that's true or not, although we have seen how Cindy seems to be hands-on with men.

The Dickens described Casey as a "party girl" going out to clubs. We know that's true.

The Dickens said that Kio told them that if Caylee was buried, the most likely spot was in the woods on Suburban across from Hidden Oaks School. Although Caylee wasn't buried, her remains were found in the woods off Suburban Drive.

I think we need to look at the Dickens interview as mostly truthful. They were just repeating neighborhood gossip, but most of what they said was true. That interview was early in the case, but later interviews and news reports confirm most of what they said.

 

[Solace]

Yes, but he did mention it because he was truly concerned, or mention it to give Casey a way out of this, a reason for what she did? Obviously, he wasn't concerned enough to mention it before Caylee died, only afterwards. I'm thinking his family knew about his sister, but didn't talk much about her mental problems at all. I'm not saying mental illness was unknown in either side of the family, but it was definitely ignored and not taken care of.

Forget George's sister. What about George. The man cannot hold down a job. He gets scammed by a Nigerian in England, maxes out the crredit cards and sends this person his money (George you are a blithering idiot). He is someone who wants to get rich quick and always has an idea and nothing ever works. He is usually asking someone for help, eg. his father and that did not work, or the woman he took 5,000 from who tried to commit suicide during this whole ordeal.

What family doesn't have someone with bi-polar. I don't think that one is going to work here.

 

[doogiesgirl]

I wonder who CA's boyfriend was.

My gosh.....why in the world has no one ever brought this up!!!????!!!

WHO WAS THE BOYFRIEND AND WHY HAVE WE NOT HEARD FROM HIM?

Is there any chance he is on the state's witness list??

Wow....I haven't had a bomb go off in some time but you just posted one!!

Great job!

:cow:

 

[Padua]

Forget George's sister. What about George. The man cannot hold down a job. He gets scammed by a Nigerian in England, maxes out the crredit cards and sends this person his money (George you are a blithering idiot). He is someone who wants to get rich quick and always has an idea and nothing ever works. He is usually asking someone for help, eg. his father and that did not work, or the woman he took 5,000 from who tried to commit suicide during this whole ordeal.

What family doesn't have someone with bi-polar. I don't think that one is going to work here.

You are describing someone who is below average in intelligence. Maybe he's just not the brightest lightbulb in the box and life is harder for him than others.

Hopefully, not everyone's family has Bipolar Disorder running in it. I'll hate to see my grandchildrens generation. Sheesh.

 

[Padua]

My gosh.....why in the world has no one ever brought this up!!!????!!!

WHO WAS THE BOYFRIEND AND WHY HAVE WE NOT HEARD FROM HIM?

Is there any chance he is on the state's witness list??

Wow....I haven't had a bomb go off in some time but you just posted one!!

Great job!

:cow:

Really? Are you being sarcastic? I'm sure someone on WS knows who he is. At least I'm hoping.

And I wonder if ICA stole from him or if he babysat Caylee

 

[Frigga]

IIRC his name was Paul Kelly (or something like that), and I think maybe he was an attorney or something. Cindy used him as the person that 'wrote up' the paternity papers for Caylee. It was something like that, or else I have completely lost my mind. Honestly, it could be either. LOL!

 

[Purple Iris]

I wonder who CA's boyfriend was.

I think that I read one time that it was someone that she worked with??
Not sure and can't remember now where, it's been so long ago.

 

[Purple Iris]

IIRC his name was Paul Kelly (or something like that), and I think maybe he was an attorney or something. Cindy used him as the person that 'wrote up' the paternity papers for Caylee. It was something like that, or else I have completely lost my mind. Honestly, it could be either. LOL!

Wasn't Paul Kelly the workers compensation attorney that George used???

 

[ZsaZsa]

You mean this guy?
http://*************.net/index.php?topic=4342.1920
See post #85.

Some say this is him...
http://bichlerlaw.com/attorney-bios.html

He had a lucky escape if so....

 

[strach304]

Thanks for the video Padua. That was just awful.

 

[Lady Rider]

:welcome: to Websleuths Lady Rider!

Thank you everyone for your wonderful warm welcomes. I have been reading several of the post on this case, and I have to say I am so impressed with everyone's analogies. I find truth in a lot of the post and they give me a lot to think about. I have came to the right website that has very intelligent insightful post.

As far as GA and CA I believe personally there was some very extreme dynamics going on under their roof. GA and CA have a lot to do with creating a monster. They never held KC responsible for her actions, in fact just the opposite. Time and time again over the years the lies, the cover ups, everything pointing to a very dysfunctional household to the extreme. I believe GA being in the household for all these years, just sits back and lets it happen, all the while CA is molding a little "mini me" in KC (someone who believes their own lies) if you keep saying it long enough, it will be true in their world. GA eventually also wants to believe all the lies and bull$#%^ floating around that household, even though he knows what the truth is. GA has been in the household long enough to know how to play along with everything (it's so much easier to go along with the lies) then to call CA or KC out on the carpet. There is a peace you have when you deny and choose not to confront, it is so much easier, GA is taking the easy way out. Now CA really believes her own lies, she will never admit responsibility for how KC turned out or that her daughter KC actually murdered her granddaughter, she is so deep in her denial and lies, it now becomes her true reality and she will never face the truth ....ever, its the only way her mental state will survive and right now it's survival of the fittest in that household. As far as GA, he knows what the true reality is (that KC killed Caylee) but chooses to believe otherwise. You have to understand him, he MUST believe the lies and what his wife say's and what KC say's or else.........he will crack.... and one day I think he will. I don't know when it will be, but he's going to crack, he's not going to be able to hack it. He does not have the mental stamina that CA has.

 

[OneLostGrl]

I'm not sure how far in denial CA is, she is obviously drawing disability benefit on psychiatric grounds. Fortunately she discovered her 'illness' just in time to benefit financially from it..:innocent:

Denial doesn't necessarily mean one doesn't know the truth of a matter. Denial is a defense mechanism, a way to distort reality so you can cope with and not have to face the pain of the true reality. It's how she dealt with Casey's issues all these years and it's how she's coping with Caylee's death but it doesn't mean she doesn't know the truth she just doesn't let herself acknowledge the truth though I suspect sometimes as she lays in bed at night the truth sneaks past that wall of denial she's built.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Denial doesn't necessarily mean one doesn't know the truth of a matter. Denial is a defense mechanism, a way to distort reality so you can cope with and not have to face the pain of the true reality. It's how she dealt with Casey's issues all these years and it's how she's coping with Caylee's death but it doesn't mean she doesn't know the truth she just doesn't let herself acknowledge the truth though I suspect sometimes as she lays in bed at night the truth sneaks past that wall of denial she's built.

That's my point. She fortunately 'accepted' the truth of her situation just at the time when she could benefit $$$ from it. Pre disability she was in 'denial' or had no insight, whichever. But now that she can receive payments for being 'mentally ill' she has gained insight and in doing so come out of 'denial'. For CA it's a matter of playing the system.

 

[strawberry]

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20467484,00.html

Father of Slain Tampa Teens Is Filing for Divorce

"Clearly the events of Jan. 27 have taken Julie and me on different paths."

"I have said for many days now that I will spend the rest of my life honoring the memory of my two beautiful children Calyx and Beau," he says. "This difficult but necessary step will help me to do just that: move forward."


Now, this is how I would expect someone whose family member killed a loved one to react. Granted, it is a little more cut and dry in this case where the "mother" was literally caught red handed and confessed in notes. But, with every thing that has come out in the Caylee case, it boggles my mind that her family can continue to enable her lies and not stand up "to honor the memory" of Caylee.

IMO

 

[Jomo]

This new motion is very interesting.

http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/Hi...to Assist in Exploring Mitigating Factors.pdf

I have a couple of questions.

In the motion, a "confidential mental health expert" has already done some testing to the tune of $2,000.00 worth.

What happened to the mitgation psychologist that has been on the case from the beginning...the one that they absolutely needed to keep because KC had established an important relationship with her?

Also, I thought that the defense mitigating witness list was not supposed to be confidential. I understood this request had been denied.

 

[sumbunny]

This new motion is very interesting.

http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/Hi...to Assist in Exploring Mitigating Factors.pdf

I have a couple of questions.

In the motion, a "confidential mental health expert" has already done some testing to the tune of $2,000.00 worth.

What happened to the mitgation psychologist that has been on the case from the beginning...the one that they absolutely needed to keep because KC had established an important relationship with her?

Also, I thought that the defense mitigating witness list was not supposed to be confidential. I understood this request had been denied.

From what I can remember...the mitigation specialist had already done well over 60% of the work.
I'm not sure if it was a mitigation psychologist they were talking about though.