Caylee Anthony 2 year old General Discussion #14

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When I say convincingly.........I mean she makes those around her appear as if they're asking stupid questions......turning their questions around. She's skilled at this. I can see Casey at age 10 saying, "Mom come on now, do you really think I'd steal a 10 cent candy bar when I've got money in my pocket?"

Yes, absolutely, I see what you're saying now and I agree. She sounds manipulative and conniving.
 
I am pretty stunned after hearing the phone calls, especially the one between Casey and her friend. What world does Casey live in? She is so cold and does not care one bit about her daughter. She's not upset, just thinking about herself and how her family has done her wrong. If she only knew how much her family has been trying to save her arse. I don't even know what to say after hearing that. I would be destroyed if my child were missing and I had been arrested. If there is one ounce of truth in her story she would not be acting like this.
 
hey!!



just realized these boards were back up. but, not sure if anyone copied this... but i posted it in the temp form, and on insessions...

i emailed jesse's dad last night, after he came here and after the blog he wrote. i asked him a few questions, and here's his reply... don't kno why, but i believe everything he says. regardless of his "religious" beliefs... :



Thank you for writing.

No my son Jesse is not the father. He paid for the best testing in the nation to prove there was 0% possibility he was the father. And, it devestated him because at that point he loved that little girl. Even then he was willing to stay with the mother and take care of her and Caylee. That's the story that hasn't gotten out yet because of this case being active and pending. The Sheriff's Dept now has the paperwork and said they would give a statement about that. I am hoping it's soon because the attention worsens every day.

If you read my blog, Caylee was here almost every day of the first ten months of her life. We all fell in love with her. This is personal for all of us.

How can someone not be offended when their spirituality is questioned or whether they are mobsters and in on the disappearance. Or, speculation as to your son's character or actions. Speculation like this goes beyond trying to figure this case out it becomes hurtful and libelous. Even the reporters and news people that hound us day and night are careful of what they say. From what I've seen of many, not all, on that site is very hurtful stuff. They have forgotten these are real people not fictional characters.

And, in the midst of all of that Jesse works his butt off for the Anthony family trying to find Caylee.

As for the police resignation - he realized he didn't have the personality or spiritual make up to be a street cop. He was raised that everything is black or white, there are no greys. And, he was raised to treat people with respect and not to see them all as criminals or"perps". That's not what they wanted. So, before he made a long term mistake he resigned for personal reasons to go back to school and get his masters in Criminal Justice. That took a lot of character and courage to do. But, that doesn't sell newspapers does it?

Casey, the mother, has not been in our lives for two years. She's only been in his because he gets to see Caylee and still be a part of her life. Without Caylee there is no reason to put up with Casey's lies and manipulations.

There you have all the perinent answers.

God bless.

Abrakadabra...................thanks for taking the initiative and emailing Rev. Grund. I'm glad he responded and clearing up so many questions. I think the whole Grund family are just some of the many victims of Casey Anthony, and they continue to be victimized by all that's happening now.
 
There is one point in the call with Cindy that Casey says "What do you mean" I think time will prove that Cindy too has known for the same amount of time that Caylee is missing. I think she is used to Casey "playing" her and so thought the whole time that is what Casey was doing.
ONE WORD TO THE ANTHONY's ENABLING.
Quit ENABLING this girl.
 
OK, I have part of another theory here. AFter listening to the partial conversation between Cindy and Casey on the first 911 call I feel that Cindy and Casey have been having words, maybe for a long time, about Cindy going for custody of Casey permanently. I feel like Cindy has held that over Casey for quite a while because Casey is so immature and takes no responsibility, doesn't work, parties, drinks yada yada. I think Casey got ticked and left with Caylee and after a short while Cindy kept asking to see or talk to Caylee but Casey gave her lots of excuses and Cindy fell for them for a while, til the day she finally located Casey (I also think after all I have read and heard that Cindy was looking for Casey's locations for a while). When she finally found Casey and saw no Caylee Cindy was getting more and more concerned and told Casey to produce Caylee that day or she was going to the police.

I think the reason Cindy thinks the child is alive is because she thinks Casey is hiding Caylee out somewhere or sent her away with that nany. That is why Cindy thinks she is alive. So the question is, did Casey do away with Caylee so mom couldn't take her? Or did she send her into hiding somewhere????

And this is my argument too. Could Caylee be alive? Until I hear from the Orange County Sheriff NOT FOX NEWS that they found human decomp, I will wonder if this is the case. Could it be Casey is so cool (and almost laughing imo) during the phone calls from jail because she knows Caylee is safe? Did she ask for immunity because this got out of control?

Could it be as simple as Casey sending Caylee away with someone to spite her mother? Then Cindy finds Casey and she makes up some sort of story about a babysitter and Caylee being missing for 31 days? But things got out of Casey's control when the police were called. And now she is in jail and people are speculating she killed her daughter. Didn't she ask for immunity in exchange for information to help find her daughter? Could it be in her mind she thought that "Oh no. Now I am in jail and this is serious. I know where she is but I only did it to keep her away from my mother. Maybe if I get immunity, I can tell them where she is, keep custody, and not be prosecuted for child neglect by causing this whole mess."
 
To me it means that Cindy had NOT talked to Casey like she said under oath.

I thought this earlier:
so the gm says.."I want to see caylee, oh...so you don't know where she is? Well...i'll give you 1 month to produce her?"

WTF!
 
So I went on Wikipedia to look up psychopath. Who does this sound like! :furious:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

Factor1: Aggressive narcissism

Glibness / superficial charm
Grandiose sense of self-worth
Pathological lying
Cunning / manipulative
Lack of remorse or guilt
Shallow
Callous / lack of empathy
Failure to accept responsibility for own actions

Factor2: Socially deviant lifestyle

Need for stimulation / proneness to boredom
Parasitic lifestyle
Poor behavioral control
Lack of realistic, long-term goals
Impulsivity
Irresponsibility
Juvenile delinquency
Early behavior problems
Revocation of conditional release

Traits not correlated with either factor

Many short-term marital relationships
Promiscuous sexual behavior
Criminal versatility
 
hey!!
(snipped)

i emailed jesse's dad last night, after he came here and after the blog he wrote. i asked him a few questions, and here's his reply... don't kno why, but i believe everything he says. regardless of his "religious" beliefs... :

Thank you for writing.

No my son Jesse is not the father. He paid for the best testing in the nation to prove there was 0% possibility he was the father. (snipped)

Thanks - I'm glad you wrote him, abra. I had a feeling this was going to be the case. As one of our WSers pointed out previously (sorry I don't recall who), Cindy used the past tense of believe when she testified in court on Tuesday. "They believed he was the father" ---- she just never completed her thought.
 
I don't think Caylee is alive. I wish I did. But I think Casey wanted her gone because of Tony. I bet Tony didn't want kids.

Weigh in with your psych knowledge. What do you think after hearing the calls. Do you agree with Pat Brown?
 
I took that to mean that Cindy had been trying to see Caylee for a month and Casey kept putting her off.

A sociopath might just break their own arm to say you did it. I'm not gonna be surprised anymore at anything this girl will do.
 
I haven't heard the Pat Brown discussion yet... so can't chime in on it yet.

But ~ I think Casey wanted Caylee missing because Caylee was cramping her style. Casey wanted to party & kick it like her little party friends did. It's hard to do with a little 2 year old tagging behind. Especially if Casey didn't have her mom to lean on as a constant drop-in/live-in babysitter.
 
Has the entire jailhouse call from Casey and her family been posted on this thread yet?
Cause I have it
 
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