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NG is on the phone right now with Jane Velez-Mitchell! TOO funny she had to call in to her show while on vacation!!!!!
I cant really excuse LP at all at this point. He acts as if all of this news is a REVELATION of some kind. Its not like we didn't know that Casey was a liar before the documents were released. We knew alot about her behavior when he bailed her out. I think he's just now trying to save his reputation with all that has gone down in the last couple of days.
I still feel the same about him....sickening that he got her out of jail and has been enjoying his media sleepover ever since. Just sickening.
No No No. Respectfully, an immunity deal is not a plea deal. Immunity deals are concerned with how testimony or evidence coming from the defendant will be used. LE is now putting all of their evidence out there -- that they have gotten without Casey's help. They are identifying their evidence vs what evidence they may first learn from Casey.
There's "blanket immunity" -- you won't be prosecuted for any crime connected with your evidence.
There's "Limited immunity" also known as "use immunity" -- you won't be prosecuted for evidence that originates with you but LE reserves the right to prosecute for evidence LE independently discovers.
A PLEA DEAL -- decides what the plea will be to each charge -- guilty, not guilty or Nolo Contendre (No contest). A plea deal generally also nails down the maximum penalty for which the defendant may be sentenced. For example, if the maximum allowable punishment is the death sentence, they may agree to an LWOP -- Life Without the Possibility of Parole or something like 25 years with credit for "good time."
So, an IMMUNITY deal only addresses evidence and prosecution flowing from evidence that flows from Casey originally. It does not limit them from using their own evidence, going for maximum charges based on their own evidence and going for a maximum allowable punishment (penalty) based on their own evidence.
No No No. Respectfully, an immunity deal is not a plea deal. Immunity deals are concerned with how testimony or evidence coming from the defendant will be used. LE is now putting all of their evidence out there -- that they have gotten without Casey's help. They are identifying their evidence vs what evidence they may first learn from Casey.
There's "blanket immunity" -- you won't be prosecuted for any crime connected with your evidence.
There's "Limited immunity" also known as "use immunity" -- you won't be prosecuted for evidence that originates with you but LE reserves the right to prosecute for evidence LE independently discovers.
A PLEA DEAL -- decides what the plea will be to each charge -- guilty, not guilty or Nolo Contendre (No contest). A plea deal generally also nails down the maximum penalty for which the defendant may be sentenced. For example, if the maximum allowable punishment is the death sentence, they may agree to an LWOP -- Life Without the Possibility of Parole or something like 25 years with credit for "good time."
So, an IMMUNITY deal only addresses evidence and prosecution flowing from evidence that flows from Casey originally. It does not limit them from using their own evidence, going for maximum charges based on their own evidence and going for a maximum allowable punishment (penalty) based on their own evidence.
Okay--so if I'm to understand your explanation-- should Casey provide them with the location of Caylee's body--they can use all the evidence they've gathered up until the discovery of said body. However, they will still need to connect the dots to the body without Casey's statement and cannot use her statement against her. If I'm wrong then please correct me as I'm willing to glean any information and education regarding the law.
Whoa - Nancy Grace is really making a case for Murder 1.
Yes. That's what he said.
You're welcome, Tracy1. (Note for further topic: Plea deals have their place in our justice system.)Thank you so much for this information!! It makes sense to me now. And I hope they do not give her a plea deal.
No No No. Respectfully, an immunity deal is not a plea deal. Immunity deals are concerned with how testimony or evidence coming from the defendant will be used. LE is now putting all of their evidence out there -- that they have gotten without Casey's help. They are identifying their evidence vs what evidence they may first learn from Casey.
There's "blanket immunity" -- you won't be prosecuted for any crime connected with your evidence.
There's "Limited immunity" also known as "use immunity" -- you won't be prosecuted for evidence that originates with you but LE reserves the right to prosecute for evidence LE independently discovers.
A PLEA DEAL -- decides what the plea will be to each charge -- guilty, not guilty or Nolo Contendre (No contest). A plea deal generally also nails down the maximum penalty for which the defendant may be sentenced. For example, if the maximum allowable punishment is the death sentence, they may agree to an LWOP -- Life Without the Possibility of Parole or something like 25 years with credit for "good time."
So, an IMMUNITY deal only addresses evidence and prosecution flowing from evidence that flows from Casey originally. It does not limit them from using their own evidence, going for maximum charges based on their own evidence and going for a maximum allowable punishment (penalty) based on their own evidence.
You're welcome, Tracy1. (Note for further topic: Plea deals have their place in our justice system.)
Should Casey take their hand and take them to the body, LE can still charge murder, LE can still try the case based on evidence LE originally discovered. LE can use their own originally discovered evidence discovered AFTER Casey locates the body. What they could not use is forensic evidence located by a coroner's autopsy, for instance. Under the deal, LE could not use anything Casey said to them pursuant to the deal. See, if they make an immunity deal, ONLY the evidence Casey shows or tells them covered by the immunity deal is off limits to prosecution.
These are very tough legal concepts, Gigi, I applaud you for giving it the effort to understand it. Good for you!
I'm not generally a supporter of the death penalty but do make an acception when it comes to children. They should be protected and avenged at all costs.
But I do think GiGi that Life without parole is sooooo much worse than the death penalty. There is no end to your misery that way. Casey would have to suffer for YEARS on end in a jail cell, growing old and becoming institutionalized. Did you see her after only 30 some odd days? She looked 100 years old when she got out.
I've always thought that LWOP is the best punishment for offenders like Casey.
SHE SHOULD ROT THERE! imho
Nancy feels so bad for the hell the GP's are going through?! Huh? Wake up Nancy...they made their own hell and now must live with it. No pity from me.
:blowkiss: I pretty much thought you knew that. Completely understand your opinion too. I'm here watching this board too.Themis, I know they do. Our system could not work without them. But in this case, with this defendant, I do not want her to be offered one.
JMangryO