Caylee's Teeth

[lizzysf]

I think Casey was at her wits end with motherhood and life. I have always believed that what began as an outburst of uncontrolled abusive rage, ended in murder. No one likes to believe that Casey could have briefly felt bad for what she had done, but I think the heart sticker says different. The heart sticker on the mouth may symbolize not only an i'm sorry, but an i'm sorry for hitting you in the mouth/face, specifically.

 

[snow_walker]

I find that picture rather unsettling.. Caylee isn't really smiling, just holding her mouth in the 'smile' position. If she were actually smiling we would see more of her top teeth and less of her bottom teeth..her jaws would be relaxed.. instead she has her jaws sort of clenched together, with her head somewhat thrust forward.. As though someone had told her to 'smile for the camera' and she had leaned forward and complied as best she could... her right arm is somewhere behind her, which looks a little uncomfortable .. it is not a natural looking picture of a little girl.

Just pose yourself in the same position and see what I mean..

 

[static]

I think Casey was at her wits end with motherhood and life. I have always believed that what began as an outburst of uncontrolled abusive rage, ended in murder. No one likes to believe that Casey could have briefly felt bad for what she had done, but I think the heart sticker says different. The heart sticker on the mouth may symbolize not only an i'm sorry, but an i'm sorry for hitting you in the mouth/face, specifically.

I agree and think that Caylee was crying uncontrollably for her grandmother. Casey was upset about being confronted about stealing money and then Caylee wanted her grandma, and all Casey wanted was to be with her prince charming. JMo Comforting is the fact that Casey will have to deal with the general pop at some point. She is going to find out firsthand what if feels like to be "picked" on by someone bigger than her. No matter what happens, she will get hers. May she lose all her teeth when that happens. and then some

 

[Curious Me]

s. tooth could be just the abbreviation for spiderman toothbrush, or suspect's tooth which would be Casey's? Why is it written on the list?

If someone in the Anthony family had a tooth of missing Caylee I do not think they would dare to turn it in. Maybe they found it out in the backyard like someone said, but they'd never turn it in...Right?

 

[lizzysf]

s. tooth could be just the abbreviation for spiderman toothbrush, or suspect's tooth which would be Casey's? Why is it written on the list?

If someone in the Anthony family had a tooth of missing Caylee I do not think they would dare to turn it in. Maybe they found it out in the backyard like someone said, but they'd never turn it in...Right?

Oh hail no.. turn it in? No way. That would be Cindy's little secret. It's gotta be spiderman toothbrush. Why would an 18+/- year old baby tooth of Casey's be useful when they have a live Casey to extract as much DNA as they want from? An 18+/- year old tooth would be less reliable and more difficult...it makes no sense..the end result of tooth dna vs live Casey dna would be the same anyway, making that theory kind of silly.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19801867/detail.html

Anthro report says missing tooth is the left upper lateral incisor.




*Caylee's carseat was in the right side of backseat.. If Casey was in the driver seat and did turn around to hit her, The left side of Caylee's face would be closer to Casey than the right side*

An unpleasant thought..

Thanks for that. Do we know if that's the front one or the one right next to it? "lateral?"

 

[lizzysf]

Thanks for that. Do we know if that's the front one or the one right next to it? "lateral?"

Next to the front tooth on the left.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Definitely 10 teeth on the bottom and her laterals are present on the top. I agree what a pretty picture. I never noticed her little tattoo though on her arm. Thanks for the pic:angel:

This picture shows the canine teeth beautifully - thank you.

Poor baby. Makes me feel so bad to talk about this. What a shame.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I was just looking over the autopsy again. Just trying to understand which teeth were out and which were still attached. OK, we don't know. I see.

OK, if she had her canine teeth in pictures (I didn't look again but I trust you guys) that means she did have the latest ones that a child her age would have, so 20 teeth. (Since the molars come in before the canines. That was news to me when I read it recently, too.)

In the autopsy, it just says 4 upper teeth were still attached. 9 lower teeth were still attached. 1 incisor was found stuck to the inside of the skull with dirt. 2 teeth were brought in by OCSD on Dec 12, then 3 more on Dec 13. Dr G says in the end, all teeth were recovered except one incisor which remains missing.

OK, so the autopsy doesn't say which teeth were the ones that were still attached, i.e., she should have had 10 upper teeth. Only 4 were still attached. The six that were out on top could include all 4 upper incisors plus 2 other upper teeth, for all we know. She should have had 10 lower teeth, only 9 were still attached. We don't know if it was an incisor that was out, or a different tooth.

The one tooth found stuck inside the skull was one of the incisors, we don't know what the other 5 that were found were.

For some reason I had always just been picturing the incisors attached to the skull, minus the one missing one and the one that was found stuck to the inside of the skull. (I never realized it might be all the incisors that were detached.) The teeth could have all fallen out during decomp, being baby teeth, or, they could have been knocked out during the taping or otherwise during what happened to her. She could have swallowed the teeth. The one missing one could still be there in the woods or could have not come to the woods.

OK, just clarifying this in my own mind

Thank you. To me this post solves any conflict. Your clear description results in 19 teeth found and one missing tooth which equals 20 teeth. That's the number of teeth found in the "average" tooth chart of a child Caylee's age.

Does everyone agree?

 

[carrie]

Then why would she have cleaned the car, brought in the knife, washed the pants.. if she was being so honest...Why didn't she blurt out "The car smells like a damn dead body and I found a knife in the car!"

I don't believe she was in coverup mode at that point in time - when she made the 911 call. It's obvious she's in coverup for KC mode now, but I don't think she was covering up when she removed the knife and cleaned the car. I think she just always did most of the (literal) cleaning/picking up after KC and that's all there was to what she did with the car.

IMO, if she'd been trying to coverup for whatever KC did to little Caylee (back when they got the car back and cleaned it), she'd have never dialed 911 to start with. JMHO. No one knew Caylee was missing but KC, and then Cindy, George, and Lee. They could have easily helped her to "disappear" instead of getting LE involved.

 

[CuriousTwo]

I find that picture rather unsettling.. Caylee isn't really smiling, just holding her mouth in the 'smile' position. If she were actually smiling we would see more of her top teeth and less of her bottom teeth..her jaws would be relaxed.. instead she has her jaws sort of clenched together, with her head somewhat thrust forward.. As though someone had told her to 'smile for the camera' and she had leaned forward and complied as best she could... her right arm is somewhere behind her, which looks a little uncomfortable .. it is not a natural looking picture of a little girl.

Just pose yourself in the same position and see what I mean..

I've thought that about the majority of her photos - appears to be a forced smile, to me. As if she's only doing it because she was told to. Most of the pics appear to be posed and staged - not casual, spontaneous moments. Maybe she was trying to imitate KC's toothy smile?