Cell Phone Activity Timeline as of 11/11

[twall]

I think the difference would be that there was no service, so whoever was using the phone, had to be using someones open wireless network, therefore it wouldn't be recorded or charged to the phone...possibly??

Yes, that could be a possibility since the device is using a private network instead of the phone's network it wouldn't show up on DB's phone record, right? I think I understand, I hate techinal stuff!

 

[3doglady]

I can't provide a link to something that never happened. The FBI has made no public comments.

All calls are "attempted." Not all calls attempted are completed. It is my opinion there were completed calls. No reason for LE to share the details with a defense attorney who insisted his clients are suspects and hours later, backpeddled.

It is entirely accurate and appropriate for the FBI to tell the attorneys the calls were attempted without revealing to them all the details they do have.

JMO

The attorneys weren't just told by the FBi. They have the phone records. If a call went through it would be on the record.

 

[deoneta]

If that was the case I don't understand why in the sentence right before that he said they could receive incoming calls and texts? :waitasec: Is he saying the restriction changed from early afternoon to when JI tried to call DB later that night? I am so lost!

JP:
This phone problem that they had was when the phones were cut off and could only recieve incoming phone calls and incoming texts from early in the afternoon. She recieved a uh, her husband, uh not her husband, her fiance Jeremy tried to contact her early in the evening to tell her that he was going to be late coming home, it went direct to the Verizon message, stating that the phone is not operable.

Yes. Which is it? They could receive incoming calls and texts but not call out. Consistent with what I know with Verizon service being restricted for lack of payment. I suppose plans could differ. That I don't know about. Then JP says JI's call went straight to Verizon billing or whatever they call their automated system. I am so confused.

 

[Sparklin]

I think they were showing her a ping that was not near enough to be pinging from her home. (we now know the farthest ping from the home was 1/3 mile) Her response was that it couldn't be her that was in possession of the phone for that ping, because she was at home in bed sleeping at that time. JMO

So you believe the 1/3 mile from the home? Deb said it wasn't possible because her phone had been restricted.

 

[MyBelle]

The attorneys weren't just told by the FBi. They have the phone records. If a call went through it would be on the record.

I doubt the attorneys have all the phone records. I'm betting LE seized them immediately.

JMO

 

[Sparklin]

Yes. Which is it? They could receive incoming calls and texts but not call out. Consistent with what I know with Verizon service being restricted for lack of payment. I suppose plans could differ. That I don't know about. Then JP says JI's call went straight to Verizon billing or whatever they call their automated system. I am so confused.

I agree those statements contradicted themselves. These things happen though. Doubtful he went on National Television and erred on purpose lol

 

[Sparklin]

I doubt the attorneys have all the phone records. I'm betting LE seized them immediately.

JMO

They don't have the record of the call made to MW because the call didn't actually go through. Those are different records than their cell phone bill though and apparently the lawyers saw the other records during their 3 hour meeting with FBI when they were told that the pings didn't go beyond 1/3 mile from the house...now that would be incriminating their own client by stating it as fact if FBI had NOT given that information. Some people (not saying you) are believing the 1/3 mile from the house because it incriminates Deb, but won't believe the phone didn't have service and any of the other info re the 'attempted' calls because it points more to someone else.

 

[3doglady]

I doubt the attorneys have all the phone records. I'm betting LE seized them immediately.

JMO

JP stated today they had all the records. BS said they had all the records for the past year. I don't think LE could keep DB from getting her own phone records. All she has to do is request and Verizon by law has to supply them to the phone owner.

 

[MyBelle]

They don't have the record of the call made to MW because the call didn't actually go through. Those are different records than their cell phone bill though and apparently the lawyers saw the other records during their 3 hour meeting with FBI when they were told that the pings didn't go beyond 1/3 mile from the house...now that would be incriminating their own client by stating it as fact if FBI had NOT given that information. Some people (not saying you) are believing the 1/3 mile from the house because it incriminates Deb, but won't believe the phone didn't have service and any of the other info re the 'attempted' calls because it points more to someone else.

LE haven't said the phone didn't have service and I'll believe it when I hear it from them.

Lawyers were shown only what LE wanted them to see.

JMO

 

[Sparklin]

DB implied LE was lying about the pings. LE haven't confirmed the phones weren't working. I think the fact that calls were made to and from the phone is proof the phones were working just fine.

JMO

bbm= You've stated this as fact..do you have a link? thanks

 

[Jacie Estes]

Link-
Bradley & Irwin lawyer John Picerno on Megyn Kelly Fox Show. 2 videos on the page. Article highlights:

11:57pm - 50 second call to MW phone number
3:17am - attempt to get into voicemail and use internet
3:22am - attempt to get into voicemail and use internet
Pings were never more than 1/3 of the mile from Irwin residence. It does not give a time when the pings stopped.

The 2:30am phone call was a rumor.

It is also not mentioned whether this was DB's broken cell or the one she received from her grandfather on Oct. 3rd.

BBM

It would make sense that an abductor, trying to connect with an accomplice. would stay in the wooded areas near the Irwin/Bradley's, particularly since the couple sighting him at 12:15. If he doesn't know that the phones are not working, then he tries to use them. The call to MW's phone is significant; she or one of the group in that house was the recipient of that call.

Who would steal a phone, 3 phones? Any one of the 8 people in that house who didn't have a phone. IMHO Who involved with that house has prior records?

 

[MyBelle]

JP stated today they had all the records. BS said they had all the records for the past year. I don't think LE could keep DB from getting her own phone records. All she has to do is request and Verizon by law has to supply them to the phone owner.

JP can claim anything at all but it doesn't make it true.

Customers do not have access to complete phone provider records. A subpoena is required.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

bbm= You've stated this as fact..do you have a link? thanks

No need for you to be so rude. I used the term, "I think" and ended the posting with JMO-"Just My Opinion."

 

[Donjeta]

I agree those statements contradicted themselves. These things happen though. Doubtful he went on National Television and erred on purpose lol

"This phone problem that they had was when the phones were cut off and could only recieve incoming phone calls and incoming texts from early in the afternoon. She recieved a uh, her husband, uh not her husband, her fiance Jeremy tried to contact her early in the evening to tell her that he was going to be late coming home, it went direct to the verizon message, stating that the phone is not operable. "

This statement is a problem to me because it suggests that Jeremy was calling from his personal phone that couldn't make outgoing calls because of unpaid bill. If he had called from the work phone (which I think is probably on a different payment plan) DB should have been able to receive the incoming call and Jeremy wouldn't have been routed to Verizon. But his personal phone was supposedly on the counter being stolen.

:crazy:

 

[Peliman]

So can we safely assume at least one of the phones didn't get destroyed in the dumpster fire?

 

[3doglady]

If that was the case I don't understand why in the sentence right before that he said they could receive incoming calls and texts? :waitasec: Is he saying the restriction changed from early afternoon to when JI tried to call DB later that night? I am so lost!

JP:
This phone problem that they had was when the phones were cut off and could only recieve incoming phone calls and incoming texts from early in the afternoon. She recieved a uh, her husband, uh not her husband, her fiance Jeremy tried to contact her early in the evening to tell her that he was going to be late coming home, it went direct to the Verizon message, stating that the phone is not operable.

When you listen to the video his meaning is more clear. He was saying that the phones were working in the early afternoon. (incoming calls and texts were received only during the early afternoon). But when JI tried to call DB that evening he got a message from Verizon saying service had been restricted. Hope that makes sense.:crazy:

 

[MyBelle]

Again from the transcript of today's interview...

investigators in this case have told the family that they have phone records proving that even though DB and JI's phones were restricted on the day that the baby went missing, a call was at least attempted at 11:57pm on DB's phone that night.

It was on Fox so keep the salt handy. :crazy:

It was third-hand information, not a quote.

I doubt investigators have told the family or their lawyers what evidence they have.

JMO

 

[3doglady]

"This phone problem that they had was when the phones were cut off and could only recieve incoming phone calls and incoming texts from early in the afternoon. She recieved a uh, her husband, uh not her husband, her fiance Jeremy tried to contact her early in the evening to tell her that he was going to be late coming home, it went direct to the verizon message, stating that the phone is not operable. "

This statement is a problem to me because it suggests that Jeremy was calling from his personal phone that couldn't make outgoing calls because of unpaid bill. If he had called from the work phone (which I think is probably on a different payment plan) DB should have been able to receive the incoming call and Jeremy wouldn't have been routed to Verizon. But his personal phone was supposedly on the counter being stolen.

:crazy:

JI was calling from his work phone but he got a message that Verizon had cut off DB's phone service.

 

[Peliman]

JI was calling from his work phone but he got a message that Verizon had cut off DB's phone service.

I thought they could receive incoming calls.

Just got a feeling LE knows ALOT more about the phones than we've heard.

 

[3doglady]

JP can claim anything at all but it doesn't make it true.

Customers do not have access to complete phone provider records. A subpoena is required.

JMO

Customers do have access to all their own phone records. They have to request it in writing. Federal law requires companies to provide customers their own records. I know because I have done it.