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And now, to DENY what that poor wee munchkin went through? To say that she may not even be dead?!?

That made me cry. Its like... spitting on her little broken body. They cant even say "Oh our little darling, we are SO VERY SORRY for the pain you suffered and the way you were treated!"

I actually crossed the line from intense dislike to loathing and utterly detesting them for that. It truly is the FINAL straw for me. I do not even believe they are grieving for her, I used to think they did, but not now.

My heart honestly breaks for that sweet little girl :( They did not deserve her. They still don't deserve her.
 
And now, to DENY what that poor wee munchkin went through? To say that she may not even be dead?!?

That made me cry. Its like... spitting on her little broken body. They cant even say "Oh our little darling, we are SO VERY SORRY for the pain you suffered and the way you were treated!"

I actually crossed the line from intense dislike to loathing and utterly detesting them for that. It truly is the FINAL straw for me. I do not even believe they are grieving for her, I used to think they did, but not now.

My heart honestly breaks for that sweet little girl :( They did not deserve her. They still don't deserve her.

Sadly, the only person they seem to be grieving for is KC. That's royally :censored: up!! JMO
 
Interesting quote from the transcript:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/02/ng.01.html

GRACE: Miss Anthony, I know that you want more volunteers to show up to search. Is that correct?

C. ANTHONY: No. Actually, I don`t. I think it`s a waste of time searching in the woods behind, you know -- back by the airport and all that because, you know, I know Caylee is alive.

I remember her saying that she didn't want people to show up to search. I also remember falling off my chair when she said it! (ok, I didn't fall off my chair but almost did!!! But my chin really did hit my chest and stayed there for quite a while!) All I heard when she said that was....."GUILT-GUILT-GUILT".

moo
 
But LE was right, the child was dead from approximately the time she was last seen according to the ME. And the only people with vision difficulties are the A's, specifically CA. She also does not listen well. LE goes where the evidence leads them....standard operating procedures. Cindy has no idea how well LE has investigated because they do not have to tell her. But she will soon find out when they go to court and will probably have to eat her words. And we all know Caylee was not in anyone's apartment she was dumped off in a swamp so her mom would not be late for movie night. Plus don't you have to have probable cause the check out someone else's home and that requires a search warrant? Now if Mom had told police the truth we would not be talking about this case now.

jmo

Points of agreement: 1. Cindy DID call LE and DID force Casey to speak with the 911 operator. 2. Cindy DID believe she WAS helping LE by her efforts in the beginning (actual time frame of help: up for debate!)


NOW WHERE I disagree with CINDY: LE does NOT report to HER or for that matter ANY family regarding the details of the internal-external crime investigation, the DO NOT SHARE videos/photos/clothing/weapons/artifacts/etc. ON DEMAND of the family with the victim's family/friends to facilitate THE PRIVATE INVESTIGATION. LE and others involved in S & R do NOT "show all their cards" to the public as it may "tip off" some perps to exacerbate dangerous behavior toward the victim, LE does NOT proffer a list of names or places to the family for their approval/edification of those "investigated/cleared/under surveillance", LE WILL conduct intense interviews with the family members INDIVIDUALLY & IN GROUPS but gee, they ASSUME/DESIRE/HOPE/BEG that the family at least will BE TRUTHFUL if they are NOT INVOLVED!:furious:
The mobs at the Anthony homestead were unacceptable to most of us with respect for human decency yet the main CHARACTERS in the script did little to minimize the scenario other than "egg-on" the rebels, LE DID provide crowd control, LE DID provide a respite to the neighbors, private TAX-paying citizens who lived within residential community yet had to allow the civil liberties of a public display of opinion to be observed on PUBLIC streets within acceptable hours. Too bad the combative Anthony family decided to meet & greet the "visitors" with hoses, hammers, loud words, yellow tape & no trespassing signs vs ignoring them! :banghead:

:twocents:Fair to LE & all those who searched & recovered Caylee, I think NOT as the words "thank you" haven't been uttered nor were they even welcomed to the memorial production!:twocents:

I can't express with words the impact the simple action of a HUG and a whispered "thanks" from the survivor of a decedent means to those of us who TRY to make it less painful and demand that it be dignified for those who leave us too soon/in trauma/without goodbyes.


Everything they said plus one other thing......NONE OF THE A'S AGREED TO TAKE LIE DETECTOR TESTS. Can I ask you one thing? If you didn't know where your grand child was and LE wanted to be able to rule your family out....would you take one? I know for sure I WOULD. No questions. That says almost all of it to me. You cannot be convicted on a false positive if there is no other evidence to convict you, so the argument that lie detector tests are unreliable is hogwash to me. Plus they CANNOT be used in a court of law, they can only assist LE, in the sense that they can show if LE has one more reason to believe their person of interest has that strike against them also.

MOO

MOO
 
I disagree with one thing in the well written post. Caylee never really had a proper funeral. The thing they had was not a funeral. It was sort of a remembrance mostly about Casey and George's singing and dancing abilities.

TY!!!

Maybe one day Caylee will get the memorial service that SHE deserves.

MOO
 
Originally Posted by LancelotLink
Interesting quote from the transcript:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../02/ng.01.html

GRACE: Miss Anthony, I know that you want more volunteers to show up to search. Is that correct?

C. ANTHONY: No. Actually, I don`t. I think it`s a waste of time searching in the woods behind, you know -- back by the airport and all that because, you know, I know Caylee is alive.


Behind??? Her house on Hopespring??? yes, she almost let it slip just like ICA...

This now reinforces, for me anyway, that CA knew Caylee was deceased and put LE/volunteers on a wild goose chase. As much as she wants to say, she doesn't/didn't speak with ICA about the case, I feel she did and knew exactly where Caylee laid...JMHO

It's becoming more and more clear as we go over statements, how much CA knew and when she knew it..but in an effort to keep the dough rolling in, she needed to play this cat and mouse game with the very people who were looking for Caylee...

Also I believe, (this transcript was from Sept 2,2008)..weeks after LE learned that there was a dead body in ICA's pontiac and that dead body belonged to Caylee...CA had to play hard ball and get others to search for a "live" Caylee therefore, once again, being contrary...and they wondered why LE would not keep them updated. Everything LE told CA, she hit the media and turned it all around...When will this woman get arrested??? I believe she needs to learn a lesson about fooling LE and taking donations for an allegedly missing child when Caylee has been a deceased child from day 1...June 16, 2008...JMHO


Justice for Caylee
 
Do you have any idea how many of Casey's friends were in various offices at the OCSD being interviewed by LE nearly immediately?

Do you realize how many of Casey's friends were given polygraphs?

Would it surprise you to learn who refused to take one? It was, Lee, mom and pop!!!

Do you know that every number, every address she took them to, her imaginary office, at her imaginary job also turned out to be lies.

Cindy did several things to stand in the way of LE efforts, right off the top of my head, she gave the wrong hairbrush to them, she said she should have given them the dog's toothbrush. That , lying to a Federal Officer is a felony, even if it is lying by omission. Yuri asked Casey for the JC Penny statement, she did not hand it over. She gave the police a wrong date for the last time she saw Caylee, etc., etc.

LE interviewed nearly all of Casey's recent friends, some of them two times or more. Tony, Ricardo, Amy and Jesse offered up their phones, in Ricardo's case at least his computer too. In Tony's case his phone was even tapped. LE went over their phone records and pings.
So you know who was trying to evade LE searching their phones and phone records, and who bought bat phones? Lee, mom, pop, likely Casey and Baez too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGPAXXwGqJY

Cindy absolutely did accuse others. She absolutely has said it was all a set up. These matters remind me of something I wrote awhile back when someone asked us why aren't the Anthony's respected.
Here it is:

"Someone was asking, how can the Anthony's win. They are not respected.., what are they to do?
Oh my, reasons why the Anthonys are not respected...do you want one to one hundred or just the Reader's Digest Version?

Perjury is not respectable

Lying by omission to a federal officer is s FELONY

Making up wholly unsubstantiated allegations about a young man that was such a good kid, he was going to marry your promiscuous, ungrateful daughter and adopt her baby to devote his life to raising as his own, to try to say he is responsible for the baby's disappearance is VILE

To invite a non profit organization, of all volunteers to come to your aid, have them arrive on their own dime, treat them like trash and send them out of your home is HATEFUL, and just plain DUMB.

To take some young people your daughter had used and stole from and lied to, that helped her with her car, loaned her money, tried to be good to her, and say to the police that they are dope dealers is shocking to me.

To hire a Private Investigator who has just severed a relationship, for whatever reason, with your daughter's lawyer, a PI who has a total of mere months of experience, and not a specialized expert in searching for missing children,only to have him set out on a mission to disparage others and dig up dirt on innocent people, Mr. Kronk, for example, the hero you tried to turn into a suspect in a MURDER, the average guy who called and called the police, who thought he better do the right thing and keep trying so that in his words, "The baby could have a proper burial" is RIDICULOUS I do not have the emotional capacity to put a label on how life changing that was for him.

To launder pants that were in a vehicle you describe as smells like there has been a dead body in the damn car is......beyond wrong.


To go on television,knowing the clip would be played , over, and over again on local, state, national and even international news shows and lie about Mrs. Zenaida Gonzalez, saying Casey never cleared her, she never even saw a lineup. Mrs. Gonzales, a single mother doing physical labor for little pay trying to keep a roof over her kids heads..you are going to make it to where she has the plague as far as media attention according to employers and her little children are harassed at school over your daughter's lies that you, Cindy perpetuate. That is Evil in my book.

Not allowing LE and Tim Miller to be welcome at the funeral when they searched for months on end for your little girl, against all lies was indescribably cruel.

To send LE and FBI agents out across the country on wild goose chases, and moreover to disparage these men publicly, every chance you got is UNFORGIVABLE

Knowing your daughter is charged with murder one, and having already admitted you knew no such imaginary Zanny the Nanny, that there was no kidnapping, you market shirts, bracelets, etc that read Caylee Is Missing and open a Caylee Marie Anthony foundation for donations and never return to work, ought to be investigated, imo. You insult the true victims of missing children, you know all the ones where their mother is not being covered for by the grandparents. Is nothing sacred?

To go on television and lie and say you believe now, despite your voluminous other recorded statements, that the decomposition smell is so close to the smell of a old empty pizza box and encourage folks to try an experiment with it themselves insults your neighbor's intelligence.

You tell your brother to go to hell. He can stand up for himself. I'll leave that one alone.

You are damn straight they are not respected in Orlando. Respect is earned. The Anthonys have spat in every good person's face that worked this case.
If you do not believe me, ask Mr. Nejame, who to this day continues to be kind to them and lift them up in prayer.

You call up Tim Miller and threaten him on a voice mail. Good grief, have you lost all decency?

To sit in a deposition across from a lady that you and your daughter have put her and her children through hell, who lost her job, has no home to live in, and insult her appearance, tell her she really hasn't been harmed she basically had nothing to lose, she just wanted publicity ( as a murderer/kidnapper...come on) is something most folks want a little prairie justice for. There is no excuse for that. I hope you aren't counting on a predominately Hispanic jury to be beguiled by Jose's charm and forget what you did to that lady. Yeah, that one ranks right up there. How dare you? We'll see if the civil jury thinks she has been harmed! We'll just see.

Hello, if they want some respect, they could start by respecting a courtroom where their daughter is being tried for MURDER ONE and not chomp on gum. It is the most arrogant, self absorbed, rude, openly defiant absence of manners I have ever seen, ever. It is unimportant, compared to the real things they have done, but to me it is symbolic of who they are, what they do. I will remember them that way, all of my life, I do not care how many times they get re baptized and announce it to the media!



I cannot even opine on my feelings of them selling photos of that murdered baby, and going on cruises with money from it. That one just levels me to the floor. There are thresholds, my brothers call them deal breakers...this one example would fit for me. I cannot reconcile this, no matter how hard I try. It is just my opinion, but in MY opinion it is , was and will be..unforgivable. That precious baby is dead. Forever. She is never going to learn to tie her shoes, ride a bike, go to her first day of school, be in the school plays, join the girl scouts, learn Sunday school songs, make her first best friend, have her first crush, play sports, dream of her future, go to the prom, fall in love, have her wedding day, have a child of her own, never. Her life is gone. You wont have those wonderful moments to photograph.Keep your memories close to you. Guard your pictures. Treasure them. Don't sell them and take a cruise. It is disgraceful. Just the thought of all that she'll miss has the tears streaming down my cheeks.

If the jury should find that the mother of that adorable little child put duct tape over her little mouth and nose so that she would struggle for every breath and die, then to be thrown in the woods like trash, and that her mother left her there for the animals and Hurricane Faye to move her about, having hot body contests, partying it up all the while .... their daughter is going to find out what being disrespected is, behind bars.

You are damn straight they are not respected in Orlando! Who could endorse this behavior....not any of the good people I know. Can I get a witness?!!! Poor Caylee, she never had a chance in that family. It is heartbreaking. My heart goes out to Great Grandma Shirley and dear sweet Great Grampa who hummed You Are My Sunshine ever so softly to Caylee. As for Casey all I can say is may God have mercy on your soul for what you did to this baby, and may you find forgiveness from him. One day. :furious:

For Caylee: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txzOErCuQlo

God bless LE, TES, and all of you who prayed. God bless you all!"

As for the protesters of course mom and pop fanned the fire by staying out front arguing. Police came to their home each and every time they were called, including over something as silly as gas cans.

I hope this helps Seagull. I could give you many, many examples but I am tired. I hope this helps for now.

Wow! Can this be the header for the Caylee Forum. You have wrapped this whole disgusting debacle up so beautifully. (At the very least, this belongs in a sticky - with it's own thread).
 
...my one question...when did your daughter tell you the truth? Was it before she went out with LE on the 16th?

This is the one (of many) we will never hear the truth to. Not under oath, not under threat of perjury or connected to a cattle prod. CA cannot turn over on her daughter. She is still back tracking over her guilt for the 911 call.

With all that has been revealed, the "real truths" we have read or heard - CA is not only in denial - she is pathologically so. How anyone can stand along side the vial creature we know as her daughter - ICA - the fruit never left that tree. ICA describing herself and Caylee Maria as "the same little person" got it wrong. Caylee was too young to be part of that mess. But CA and ICA, oh yeah. I have a hard time seeing where one leaves off and the other begins.

The only difference, I'm trying to remind myself - CA did not wrap duct tape around precious Caylee - she became a participant after the event; as The World According so eloquently listed her many transgressions there is no need, nor ability to rehash - she did it so very well - CA picked up where ICA left off and in doing so became a willing accomplice in Caylee Marie's demise.

Precious Caylee deserved so much more, so much better.
 
And now, to DENY what that poor wee munchkin went through? To say that she may not even be dead?!?

That made me cry. Its like... spitting on her little broken body. They cant even say "Oh our little darling, we are SO VERY SORRY for the pain you suffered and the way you were treated!"

I actually crossed the line from intense dislike to loathing and utterly detesting them for that. It truly is the FINAL straw for me. I do not even believe they are grieving for her, I used to think they did, but not now.

My heart honestly breaks for that sweet little girl :( They did not deserve her. They still don't deserve her.

I think initially they did grieve for Caylee, but she was quickly forgotten as they went into the "protect Casey and spin lies" mode. Now..........the "grieving grandparents" is just a role they play for the media. They trot out the "grieving grandparents" act when it serves a purpose.
 
Behind??? Her house on Hopespring??? yes, she almost let it slip just like ICA...

This now reinforces, for me anyway, that CA knew Caylee was deceased and put LE/volunteers on a wild goose chase. As much as she wants to say, she doesn't/didn't speak with ICA about the case, I feel she did and knew exactly where Caylee laid...JMHO

It's becoming more and more clear as we go over statements, how much CA knew and when she knew it..but in an effort to keep the dough rolling in, she needed to play this cat and mouse game with the very people who were looking for Caylee...

Also I believe, (this transcript was from Sept 2,2008)..weeks after LE learned that there was a dead body in ICA's pontiac and that dead body belonged to Caylee...CA had to play hard ball and get others to search for a "live" Caylee therefore, once again, being contrary...and they wondered why LE would not keep them updated. Everything LE told CA, she hit the media and turned it all around...When will this woman get arrested??? I believe she needs to learn a lesson about fooling LE and taking donations for an allegedly missing child when Caylee has been a deceased child from day 1...June 16, 2008...JMHO


Justice for Caylee

I think Cindy knew very early on that Caylee's remains were very close to their house and somewhere in the woods off of Suburban Drive. But she didn't know the exact spot. That's why Cindy sent "her people" to search for Caylee's body.

Her people were DC and the phony psychics. I think the psychics were used as go-betweens with Cindy feeding them information on where Caylee's remains were. And, I think the goal was to find Caylee's remains before LE or any of the searchers found them, and permanently dispose of them.

This was clearly an attempt to obstruct justice.

George and Cindy's reaction, or more importantly, their lack of reaction when Caylee's remains were found, shows that they knew the remains were right where they knew they'd be found.
 
TWA - I don't post much because I am forum challenged but I had to say something. I read here everyday, several times a day and sometimes all day long.
Your post gave me goose bumps from the top of my head to the bottoms of my feet. As I neared the end tears filled my eyes.
The Thanks Button was not enough.
You are an Angel here on Earth for that sweet-faced child, Caylee.

Not to diminish the posts of many others....Caylee has many Angels here at this forum :-)
 
Everything they said plus one other thing......NONE OF THE A'S AGREED TO TAKE LIE DETECTOR TESTS. Can I ask you one thing? If you didn't know where your grand child was and LE wanted to be able to rule your family out....would you take one? I know for sure I WOULD. No questions. That says almost all of it to me. You cannot be convicted on a false positive if there is no other evidence to convict you, so the argument that lie detector tests are unreliable is hogwash to me. Plus they CANNOT be used in a court of law, they can only assist LE, in the sense that they can show if LE has one more reason to believe their person of interest has that strike against them also.

MOO

MOO

No kidding- I'ma tell you!! I am a felon, I distrust the law (not proud but I'm just trying to make my point LOL), I'm just not one of those people who thinks the "law is on your side"- I know the games LE plays I have been a victim of the games but I would still be the FIRST person in line to take a lie detector test!

WHO doesn't take a lie detecter test?!?!
 
In my opinion, Cindy ought to be blaming herself for ever talking KC out of giving Caylee up for adoption (if that is story you believe)! If she knew KC was a sociopath, liar, thief, etc., why risk an innocent child's life? Did she believe that giving birth would magically cure KC of all her issues? :banghead:
 
In my opinion, Cindy ought to be blaming herself for ever talking KC out of giving Caylee up for adoption (if that is story you believe)! If she knew KC was a sociopath, liar, thief, etc., why risk an innocent child's life? Did she believe that giving birth would magically cure KC of all her issues? :banghead:

Worked for Cindy.
 
No kidding- I'ma tell you!! I am a felon, I distrust the law (not proud but I'm just trying to make my point LOL), I'm just not one of those people who thinks the "law is on your side"- I know the games LE plays I have been a victim of the games but I would still be the FIRST person in line to take a lie detector test!

WHO doesn't take a lie detecter test?!?!

Ya know, the (not so) funny thing here is you are right - look at the other missing child cases we are aware of - pass or fail, almost everyone takes one (or three).

The innocent (Marc Klaas) knows it will clear him, the not so innocent (pick a name) knows it can not be used against them.

The deceptive - refused.
 
Sadly, the only person they seem to be grieving for is KC. That's royally :censored: up!! JMO

And I just wish they had spent half of much energy on finding Caylee (once they knew she was gone) as they have in protecting Casey. :furious:

And meanwhile Casey is loving every single minute that her family has pushed aside Caylee for her. She has gotten exactly what she wanted. She wanted her family to make her Number 1. And they have.
 
TY!!!

Maybe one day Caylee will get the memorial service that SHE deserves.

MOO

That will only happen if not a single Anthony family member is present.
 
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