Cindy's FBI Interview Compared with Casey's Cell Phone Records

[passionflower]

Isn't June 24 the day with the gas cans? If Casey told Cindy this whole story about needing to stay with Zanny, and George saw KC that afternoon...Don't you think when they compared notes a big red flag should have went up???

ABSOLUTELY! I would like to know how GA acted after the huge fight !!!
Did he seem nervous? sad? busy? at home allot? working? watching TV? cooking? We know (I think) CA was working as a nurse. Even though KC says she hates her father, I believe that GA helped KC with all this. Did GA seemed shocked the day LE showed up??? about Caylee missing? Did he go to work? GA referrs so many times to Caylee as 'this girl'.......not my baby doll or my little Caylee. Secret kept from CA for awhile..........31 days

 

[jandkmom]

Maybe on one of the phone calls between CA and KC, KC started to tell her mom there had been an "accident" with Caylee and then she could tell by her mom's reaction that she would never forgive her if there had been an accident and something happended to Caylee. She then started to cover for saying there had been an accident and came up with the Zani in a car accident story.

 

[ElizaAvalon]

1:43:15 Antony home calls Casey 57 sec vm
1:43:15 Casey calls vm 57 sec

IMO, these calls that are at the same exact time are those that go directly to voicemail.

 

[ElizaAvalon]

July 3rd is the night that Lee looks for Casey.

 

[worriedmom]

You know, we've been assuming that Casey started staying with Tony L. regularly either on 6/16 or as someone has speculated, maybe earlier than that.

But, if you look at this fabulous compilation of calls/texts, it looks like there are several nights that Casey is NOT with Tony L. Where is she these nights?

6/17
6/19
6/21
6/24
6/26 and
6/28

on each of these days she either talks to him or texts him after 11:30 pm. That suggests to me that she is not staying with him. Particularly on 6/24, he calls her three times in a row after 11 pm. This is the day she tells her mom about an "accident" -- maybe she's making up some story for Tony too for that day to explain why she can't come to his house as expected.

Seeing the phone records this way also caused me again to focus on the Lexus Dealer. I've not seen anything that confirms a suspicion that GA was working there. Casey seems to call there twice a day for several days in a row. What's that about? Why not call his cell?

Also -- who are Sean H. and Sandra S. mentioned in these phone records?

 

[TxMother67]

Fantastic post! Thank you for your time! I find it facinating that "Zanny" is kicking back at the Hard Rock for a few days after her debilitating accident :bang: And I would love, love , love to know what was in texts between Cindy and Casey!:blowkiss:

 

[LCoastMom]

Is there any records with LE on any wreck? with a zani accident/hospital........IMO another lie...........maybe it was mentioned, sorry I'm losing my mind over this case!

In the new docs there is a mention from Det Yuri that no accident or hospitalization has been found by LE.

 

[absolut_alexis]

1:43:15 Antony home calls Casey 57 sec vm
1:43:15 Casey calls vm 57 sec

IMO, these calls that are at the same exact time are those that go directly to voicemail.

Perhaps she set her phone to reject CA's number, so the calls were automatically forwarded to KC's VM number?

 

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Speaking of these actual zombie debt collectors, one of the latest tactics they're using now is actually calling people's neighbors asking them to give the people messages regarding their debts, saying, "we can't reach them, can you please give them a message?" We have received three of these calls regarding some of our neighbors, we couldn't believe this invasion of our neighbors' privacy. Can you imagine? Of course we told them absolutely not and not to call us again.

 

[Searchfortruth]

Looking back over these phone calls and I just don't understand how Casey was able to hold Cindy off all this time by making excuses about where Caylee was and why Cindy couldn't talk to her. I mean that's a LOT of phone calls, I would imagine Cindy asked to speak to Caylee everytime, that equals a lot of excuses on Casey's part.

 

[Intermezzo]

June 27th
Cindy in her FBI statement says Casey called Cindy on the 27th told her she was back in Orlando but that she had to go to work for a meeting. Caylee was with Jennifer. This call was 3o"clock or after in the afternoon. KC also said she had to meet with Jeff, he was in town. Zani , Jeff, Casey went and stayed at the Hard Rock to hang out and catch up. They hadn’t seen each other in a long time.
Had to go to work=going to Fusion Casey fancied herself to be part of TL's companyJeff=TonyL who was still in town and was going to spend time with him before he leaves

June 27th
9:37:04 Casey calls Cindy’s cell 2 min call
15:51:56 Casey calls Cindy’s cell 57 sec vm
20:33:39 Anthony home calls Casey home 9 sec vm
20:33:09 casey calls VM 9 sec call
21:01:07 Anthony home calls Casey 2 min call
21:06:16 Anthony home calls Casey 6 min conversation
22:58:55 Cindy cell calls Casey no answer

June 28th
Hanging out with Jeff and Zani at the Hard Rock

Hanging out with TonyL at his place

June 28th
14:32:14 Cindy cell calls Casey 8 min call


June 29th
Hanging out with Jeff and Zani at the Hard Rock

Still hanging out with TonyL at this place

June 29th
17:08:11Casey calls Anthony home 3 min call
20:41:55 casey calls Anthony home 10 min call

June 30th
Jeff going back to Jacksonville. Casey said she was coming home but she never did. Later that night Casey told Cindy she had to work late and that Jennifer was going to start keeping Caylee cause Zani couldn’t. Casey stayed late at work then went back to Zani’s house.

Jeff goint back to Jacksonville=TonyL going home to NewYork for a visit
June 30th
12:36:23 Anthony home calls Casey 33 sec vm
12:36:23 casey checks vm 33 sec
17:35:01 Casey calls Anthony home 20sec no answer
21:09:38 Casey calls the Anthony home 3 min call


Snipped for size. BBM and posts in Red by me
My interpretation of those 3 days

Great work Momtective!!!!

 

[Intermezzo]

Cindy said in the interview that she had july fourth week off and she wanted to spend time with Caylee that week ...of course KC cannot produce Caylee and KC knows Cindy will not take NO for an answer ... looks like she is trying to avoid Cindy during this time ...

And yet Cindy said on the CBS interview that there were no Red Flags. HMMM

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

And yet Cindy said on the CBS interview that there were no Red Flags. HMMM

Nothing out of CA's mouth is credible. Heck, nothing out of the entire Anthony's mouths represent any truth..

They lost that long ago...CA has skated by being arrested as well. I know these are people who are stuck between a rock and hard place but they should be standing up for Caylee and not KC..you love, you support your child but you must demand she take responsiblity for her actions..she took your sunshine away! How can you not seek justice for your granddaughter.

Looking back from one year has sure shown the truth to those who are open to it..The Anthony family have been covering for KC since July 16th...:banghead:

 

[Intermezzo]

June 18-25 Casey claims to be in Tampa at Hard Rock and Bush Gardens (Marriott?). She mentions I-75 just before I-4 as where Zani's accident occurred. Take a look at this map (not in Tampa but in Orlando.) Notice the two bodies of water and right there at Universal where KC initally took the investigators.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sad...8.476915,-81.459439&spn=0.03297,0.077248&z=14

Hi Momtective

Again a lot of BS in Casey's story and yet Cindy, who has lived in the Orlando area for many many years, does not seem to know that Universal, Busch Gardens/Sea World and Disney are competing theme parks owned by different companies.

Universal Studios is in Orlando
Busch Gardens is in Tampa but SeaWorld is in Orlando

I hardly doubt event co-ordinators who worked for Universal Studios would be working events for a competing theme park company.

Casey knew she could feed her parents a line or 2 or 3 etc...of BS and they would not verify its authenticity..IMO

 

[Intermezzo]

Nothing out of CA's mouth is credible. Heck, nothing out of the entire Anthony's mouths represent any truth..

They lost that long ago...CA has skated by being arrested as well. I know these are people who are stuck between a rock and hard place but they should be standing up for Caylee and not KC..you love, you support your child but you must demand she take responsiblity for her actions..she took your sunshine away! How can you not seek justice for your granddaughter.

Looking back from one year has sure shown the truth to those who are open to it..The Anthony family have been covering for KC since July 16th...:banghead:

BBM
LLL I totally agree.

 

[Intermezzo]

Looking back over these phone calls and I just don't understand how Casey was able to hold Cindy off all this time by making excuses about where Caylee was and why Cindy couldn't talk to her. I mean that's a LOT of phone calls, I would imagine Cindy asked to speak to Caylee everytime, that equals a lot of excuses on Casey's part.

BBM
Same here.
I guess many of us find it very difficult to fathom all the BS that Casey came up with and that her parents believed it..yet CA was getting concerned the days leading up to July 3rd.

CA even elisted the help of Lee to track down Casey and I believe text messages between Casey and Mallory (lee's GF) were exchanged as well.

 

[Intermezzo]

Fantastic post! Thank you for your time! I find it facinating that "Zanny" is kicking back at the Hard Rock for a few days after her debilitating accident :bang: And I would love, love , love to know what was in texts between Cindy and Casey!:blowkiss:

BBM
Same here
I am not a nurse but I am trying to figure out how in the heck Cindy believed this car accident with severe injuries story? and then kicking back at the Hard Rock within 3 days of the accident.

 

[Searchfortruth]

BBM
Same here
I am not a nurse but I am trying to figure out how in the heck Cindy believed this car accident with severe injuries story? and then kicking back at the Hard Rock within 3 days of the accident.

Another thing that I can't understand is how Cindy could remember all these phone calls and the dates (Hard Rock, Tampa, hospital, Jeff...). When she first told this stoy to LE she rattled off these calls like they were etched in her memory...I could never remember all that without writing it down.

Even though at the end she says "well, I know none of this is true now" she had to spend quite a bit of time prior getting that story straight.

 

[Searchfortruth]

BBM
Same here.
I guess many of us find it very difficult to fathom all the BS that Casey came up with and that her parents believed it..yet CA was getting concerned the days leading up to July 3rd.

CA even elisted the help of Lee to track down Casey and I believe text messages between Casey and Mallory (lee's GF) were exchanged as well.

July 3rd...interesting date.

It seems to be here that the worry, if you go by the phone calls/texts, escalates dramatically. Casey calls Cindy to get her to go to Universal, so that Casey can get in the house...tells Cindy what, IDK, but succeeds in getting her out of the home. The calls are constant, all day and night from Cindy to Casey. It has been theorized that Cindy was the one that called Casey and told her Lee was coming for her that night. They were doing some heavy texting right before this. SO, we can definitely say that on July 3rd the family knew Casey was not in Jacksonville, she was in Orlando. Lee says this in his depo "no you're not in Jacksonville, you're in Orlando" to Casey that night. Was it on the 3rd that they realized something was wrong ? Why all of a sudden are they so concerned ?

 

[Jolynna]

July 3rd...interesting date.

It seems to be here that the worry, if you go by the phone calls/texts, escalates dramatically. Casey calls Cindy to get her to go to Universal, so that Casey can get in the house...tells Cindy what, IDK, but succeeds in getting her out of the home. The calls are constant, all day and night from Cindy to Casey. It has been theorized that Cindy was the one that called Casey and told her Lee was coming for her that night. They were doing some heavy texting right before this. SO, we can definitely say that on July 3rd the family knew Casey was not in Jacksonville, she was in Orlando. Lee says this in his depo "no you're not in Jacksonville, you're in Orlando" to Casey that night. Was it on the 3rd that they realized something was wrong ? Why all of a sudden are they so concerned ?

I think Cindy became concerned because it was the day before the 4th of July. Cindy couldn't imagine spending "Firework Day" without Caylee. Nobody works on July 4 so KC's story became a whole lot more suspicious.

Obviously KC knew Cindy was trying to track her down. That is why KC texted Jesse and told him not to talk to Cindy.

No, I don't think Cindy had a clue that Caylee was in actual danger. But, at this point she was frantic to bring the spitefulness to an end without doing something to cause KC further anger. KC had legal custody. KC was not breaking any law by keeping the child SHE had custody of away from her mother. If Cindy had called LE and Caylee was fine, and Cindy had every reason to think she would be, what would Cindy's chances have been of seeing Caylee in the future?

This was not the first time KC had taken Caylee away for a few days. She'd taken Caylee away from Cindy part of the previous week before June 16 bringing Caylee along when she hung out with Tony during the day and Ricardo at night. However, KC returned with Caylee in plenty of time to have a babysitter for Hip Hop night @ Fusian on June 13. KC was telling Cindy every day she was coming home the same night or the next day. By July 4, Cindy was frayed and impatient but this wasn't the first time they'd battled and KC had taken Caylee away and then Cindy and KC made nice and both resolved to do better (IMO).

IIRC Cindy said in one interview a couple of weeks before July 15, she'd threatened to report the Sunfire stolen. That's when KC came up with having to work in Jacksonville with Jeff. After that the Sunfire was broken down in Jacksonville and in the shop.

I don't believe Cindy thought it was fine and was ok with KC having Caylee for 31 days. I think she was threatening, trying to guilt, begging, placating, sucking up and using all of the tactics that had worked in the past to get her hands back on Caylee. But, she didn't suspect Caylee was dead.

JMO