GUILTY CO - 5 Dead/18 Injured in Shooting at Club Q, Colorado Springs, Nov 2022 *arrest*

[jakat]

IIRC, Lorson Ranch was Gannon Stauch’s neighborhood.

Yes. Poor little kid.

 

[dotr]

Amazing that this guy survived getting shot 7 times in the back with an AR-15-style semiautomatic weapon!

Nov 21, 2022
''A 22-year-old gunman opened fire with a semiautomatic rifle inside an LGBTQ nightclub in Colorado Springs, killing five people and leaving 25 injured before he was subdued by “heroic” patrons and arrested by police who arrived within minutes, authorities said Sunday. The suspect used an AR-15-style semiautomatic weapon in the Saturday night shooting at Club Q, a law enforcement official said. A handgun and additional ammunition magazines also were recovered, according to the official, who could not discuss details of the investigation publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.''

 

[MrsWatson]

Amazing that this guy survived getting shot 7 times in the back with an AR-15-style semiautomatic weapon!

Nov 21, 2022
''A 22-year-old gunman opened fire with a semiautomatic rifle inside an LGBTQ nightclub in Colorado Springs, killing five people and leaving 25 injured before he was subdued by “heroic” patrons and arrested by police who arrived within minutes, authorities said Sunday. The suspect used an AR-15-style semiautomatic weapon in the Saturday night shooting at Club Q, a law enforcement official said. A handgun and additional ammunition magazines also were recovered, according to the official, who could not discuss details of the investigation publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.''

He even looks to be in pretty good form!

Dude, go buy a lottery ticket, now.

 

[sds71]

Richard M. Fierro said he was at a table in Club Q with his wife, daughter and friends on Saturday, watching a drag show, when the sudden flash of gunfire ripped across the nightclub. His instincts from four combat deployments as an Army officer in Iraq and Afghanistan instantly kicked in. Fight back, he told himself…

The gunman, who Mr. Fierro estimated weighed more than 300 pounds, sprawled onto the floor, his military-style rifle landing just out of reach. Mr. Fierro started to go for the rifle, but then saw that the gunman had a pistol as well.

“I grabbed the gun out of his hand and just started hitting him in the head, over and over,” Mr. Fierro said.
As the fight continued, he said, he yelled for other club patrons to help him. A man grabbed the rifle and moved it away to safety. A drag dancer stomped on the gunman with her high heels. The whole time, Mr. Fierro said, he kept pummeling the shooter’s head while the two men screamed obscenities at each other…

Army Veteran Went Into ‘Combat Mode’ to Disarm the Club Q Gunman (Published 2022)

Richard M. Fierro, who served for 15 years in the military, was at the nightclub in Colorado Springs with his family when the gunman opened fire. “I just knew I had to take him down,” he said.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Marysmith]

Richard M. Fierro said he was at a table in Club Q with his wife, daughter and friends on Saturday, watching a drag show, when the sudden flash of gunfire ripped across the nightclub. His instincts from four combat deployments as an Army officer in Iraq and Afghanistan instantly kicked in. Fight back, he told himself…

The gunman, who Mr. Fierro estimated weighed more than 300 pounds, sprawled onto the floor, his military-style rifle landing just out of reach. Mr. Fierro started to go for the rifle, but then saw that the gunman had a pistol as well.

“I grabbed the gun out of his hand and just started hitting him in the head, over and over,” Mr. Fierro said.
As the fight continued, he said, he yelled for other club patrons to help him. A man grabbed the rifle and moved it away to safety. A drag dancer stomped on the gunman with her high heels. The whole time, Mr. Fierro said, he kept pummeling the shooter’s head while the two men screamed obscenities at each other…

Army Veteran Went Into ‘Combat Mode’ to Disarm the Club Q Gunman (Published 2022)

Richard M. Fierro, who served for 15 years in the military, was at the nightclub in Colorado Springs with his family when the gunman opened fire. “I just knew I had to take him down,” he said.

www.nytimes.com

Wow. What a hero!!

 

[sds71]

@alasynzimmerman

We're hearing from law enforcement for an update on the #ClubQ Shooting CSPD chief Adrian Vasquez is identifying the victims who died: Kelly Loving, Derrick Rump, Daniel Aston, Ashley Paugh, & Raymond Green

The two heroes who subdued the gunman are being identified: Thomas James & Richard Viero @KOAA

https://twitter.com/x/status/1594824323465977859

 

[vls12345]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1594806852377780248

 

[Lore Listener]

Is there a history of LE there getting dangerous mentally ill family members a pass and ignored and left with weapons? Just wondering where that speculation comes from?

Kind of? We definitely have history of LE refusing to follow our Extreme Risk Protection Orders (EPRO) Law, which is the law that allows a judge to sign an order to remove weapons from someone they deem a risk to themselves or others and domestic offenders. I'm just not sure about the family members part specifically. After we passed the ERPO, a lot of so-called "constitutional sheriffs" refused to enforce the law. In fact, the first time the bill was introduced, it didn't pass (this was before I was involved in policy) because sheriffs didn't support it, which was extremely disappointing because a big goal of the bill was to protect LE after a man who was known to have made theats against LE ambushed police in Douglas County, murdering a young deputy named Zachari Parrish.

Copper Canyon Apartment Homes shooting - Wikipedia

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The second time we ran it, it passed into law, supported vocally by the sheriff who was Dep. Parrish's supervisor. But multiple other sheriffs said they would not enforce.

Months Before Controversial Gun Law Takes Effect, Colorado Sheriffs Continue To Resist

Some sheriffs have said they will not enforce the state's new so-called red flag law. These vows have introduced the prospect of uneven access to gun laws depending on where residents live.

www.kunc.org

After a while, the sheriffs stopped vocally opposing the law, but it was pretty clear they weren't enforcing it either. This was an urgent problem for those of us in domestic violence policy because our survivors were filing for ERPOs and regular protection orders (which in CO also require the restrained party to relinquish their guns) and the guns weren't getting taken away. Sheriffs were saying that they didn't know how to seize, secure, and store the guns in a constitutional way--to be fair, even though the original bill explained this pretty well, Colorado does have some extra requirements in our State Constitution protecting firearm ownership. So an excellent policy director in the field wrote a bill laying out procedures for them and a group of DV champion legislators introduced it in 2020.

Protection Orders Issued Against Domestic Abusers | Colorado General Assembly

leg.colorado.gov

The final public hearing was just a couple days before we had to close our Capitol and our legislative session due to COVID! Several of my colleagues and I actually caught COVID testifying. Fortunately, when the legislature reconvened for an emergency session during the summer, they were able to pass this lifesaving bill!

Anyway, two people I will never forget were among the small group testifying against us. This guy, who actually reminds me a bit of ALA in terms of MO:

Man Arrested for Bomb Possession Testified at Capitol That He'd Defend Gun Rights "Regardless of Cost"

One of the pipe bombs Bunn told the FBI he made. On May 1, the FBI arrested a Loveland man who was armed with pipe bombs and planning to stage...

coloradotimesrecorder.com

And then there was Janet Huffor, representing the El Paso County Sheriff's Office and the County Sheriffs of Colorado. El Paso County is the location of Colorado Springs. She went on a nonsensical rant that pointed out zero flaws with bill, and basically spent the whole time bragging about how the typical El Paso resident owns dozens of guns (no proof) and about some guy called the Dragon Man who owns an arsenal museum?

So yeah. Colorado has laws that would have prevented this and should have been enforced. We also have (a select few) sheriffs more interested in pandering to the violent fringe than protecting our citizens. Frankly, I hope the victims' families sue them for failing to deal with ALA as the law prescribes.

 

[Lore Listener]

Moo..just general curiousity, there a lots of gay bars just wondered why that bar? ..moo

There aren't a lot of gay bars in the Springs. In fact, this is the only one I've ever heard of. People are scared to be out down there due to a large number of very virulently anti-gay orgs.

 

[nao]

Moo..i used to hang out at gay bars 30-40 years ago. Never seemed like a big deal. The world is getting weird and so divided....moo

 

[Lore Listener]

Moo..i used to hang out at gay bars 30-40 years ago. Never seemed like a big deal. The world is getting weird and so divided....moo

Agree. One of the things that makes this so heartbreaking is that gay bars are like, one of the friendliest venues you can go to.

 

[Shamrock1]

Fierro’s daughter’s boyfriend was one of the five victims:
“But his daughter’s boyfriend was nowhere to be found. In the chaos they had lost him. They drove back to the club, searching for him, they circled familiar streets, hoping they would find him walking home. But there was nothing.

The family got a call late Sunday from his mother. He had died in the shooting.

When Mr. Fierro heard, he said, he held his daughter and cried.”


Veteran Subdued Gunman in Colorado Club Where 5 Were Killed

 

[Elley Mae]

Years before he allegedly walked into a Colorado LGBTQ bar with an assault-style rifle, the man now known as Anderson Lee Aldrich had a different name, and a tumultuous past.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/11/21/colorado-springs-qbar-shooter/

Until age 15, he was known as Nicholas Brink, living in San Antonio, public records show. <modsnip - sleuthing family>

 

[MrsWatson]

Victims Identified In Colorado Springs LGBTQ Club Shooting

Their names are Kelly Loving, Daniel Aston, Derrick Rump, Ashley Paugh and Raymond Green Vance.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

 

[dotr]

Site of Colorado gay bar shooting 'celebrated' LGBTQ people

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) — Reese Congleton grew up in Colorado Springs feeling as if she had to keep her queer identity quiet, and because she hadn’t come out to many people, she was nervous to go to Club Q for the first time.

apnews.com

''COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) — Reese Congleton grew up in Colorado Springs feeling as if she had to keep her queer identity quiet, and because she hadn’t come out to many people, she was nervous to go to Club Q for the first time.

But on Monday she recalled how the rainbow lights bounced around the room and the lively crowd shared her excitement. Congleton, 19, said she went from feeling like she had been merely tolerated in public to “being celebrated. … It’s really special not to feel alone.”

In the mostly conservative city of Colorado Springs, Club Q has long been a go-to spot for members of the LGBTQ community — a safe space where many felt they could let down their guard and just be themselves. It’s a place where LGBTQ teenagers can’t wait to be old enough to enter. It’s one of the first spots new LGBTQ residents are sent to meet others in the community and feel a sense of belonging.''

 

[Elley Mae]

Accused Colorado gunman Anderson Aldrich used anti-gay slurs, neighbor says

The suspect in the deadly shooting at a Colorado LGBTQ nightclub allegedly used anti-gay slurs — and chillingly said that “it’s not the gun you’ve got to be afraid of, it’s the people,&…

nypost.com

 

[Lore Listener]

I’m not the only one in Colorado angry about EPCS refusing to follow the law and keep their citizens safe!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1594930251037290496

 

[MrsWatson]

TMZ has an interesting post about the gunman.

 

[sds71]

Two weeks before his 16th birthday, the man accused of murdering five people in a Colorado Springs nightclub changed his name to distance himself from his father and an extremely troubled childhood. On May 2, 2016, according to Texas court records, Nicholas Franklin Brink became Anderson Lee Aldrich.

The family wrote that Aldrich wanted to change his name “to protect himself and his future from any connections to birth father (sic) and his criminal history. Father has had no contact with (Aldrich) for several years.”

Club Q shooting suspect changed name in 2016 to protect themself from birth father, court records show

More than six years before the Colorado Springs shooting, Nicholas Franklin Brink asked a Bexar County, Texas, judge to change their name to Anderson Lee Aldrich, when he was 15, court records show…

www.denverpost.com

https://denvergazette.com/news/accu...al&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

 

[ifindedout]

Referencing my own post yesterday, I remember from the Bucks County Four case in 2017 that Cosmo DiNardo was injured in a dirt bike accident a year before the murders. Did something similar happen to Aldrich?