Found Deceased CO - Dylan Nicholas Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 *father arrested* #2

[katydid23]

Photos from age 11 to 13 of Dylan. That's all I can remember.

If your son is missing would you throw his pictures in a garbage bin?

 

[RANCH]

I'm not sure how the defense will propose an animal attack as the cause of Dylan's death when they get their turn.

They will be hamstrung by this witness's testimony that will be very difficult to refute. They can suggest a cougar attack but they will have to explain why Dylan went up Middle Mountain Rd to be attacked in the first place.

They will have to convince the jury that Dylan hiked up that road for no reason to then be attacked by a cougar and then some other animal moved Dylan's skull 1.5 miles away over extreme vertical terrain. JMO

 

[Cindizzi]

If your son is missing would you throw his pictures in a garbage bin?

Despicable. Contrast that with Elaine still having one of his baby teeth to give investigators for DNA. I burst into tears when she said that on the stand.

 

[RANCH]

I spent the last 7 days with my 91 year old mom. ...no wifi unless I go down to the lobby.

So I am a week behind. I did read on my phone but had scant connection so it was just quick bursts of time to read.

My mom is 88 years old. She has an appointment for new hearings aids in the morning so I will miss some of the trial tomorrow.

 

[BUF]

I'm not sure how the defense will propose an animal attack as the cause of Dylan's death when they get their turn.

They will be hamstrung by this witness's testimony that will be very difficult to refute. They can suggest a cougar attack but they will have to explain why Dylan went up Middle Mountain Rd to be attacked in the first place.

They will have to convince the jury that Dylan hiked up that road for no reason to then be attacked by a cougar and then some other animal moved Dylan's skull 1.5 miles away over extreme vertical terrain. JMO

…and they have another wildlife expert coming in after this one

 

[katydid23]

Photos from age 11 to 13 of Dylan. That's all I can remember.

If your son is missing would you throw his pictures in a garbage bin?

Also photos of Elaine and old driver’s license. We will get to see pics of them when they update exhibits.

Photos of Elaine make sense. I'd expect him to toss her photos. But Dylan's? That is disgusting for him to toss those out. And the OPPOSITE of what a grieving Dad would do.

 

[katydid23]

Dr Johnson is repeating and emphasizing her answers from direct. Example: 100 yards is an average longer length a bear will carry prey. This defense attempt is not going well. He is trying to give his impression of an all knowing wildlife expert, but is failing to get her to respond as he would like.

Now...he is suggesting it was a MALE Bear! Because she didn't collar any male Bears..... " Safe to say"....

The jurors are all local. They probably have not heard of any recent killings of teen boys by bear or mountain lion in the area.

 

[Warwick7]

Today was such a win win for Dylan.
I just might have to have a drink on that!

 

[Warwick7]

If your son is missing would you throw his pictures in a garbage bin?

Photos of Elaine make sense. I'd expect him to toss her photos. But Dylan's? That is disgusting for him to toss those out. And the OPPOSITE of what a grieving Dad would do.

Ikr?!!!
When I can't think he can get anymore stupid...
I luv how someone called in a tip. Knew he tossed these things.
;0)

 

[Warwick7]

…and they have another wildlife expert coming in after this one

Moutain lions?
Cougar?

 

[Seattle1]

But an animal wouldn’t be traveling by road. I thought it was more like 1.5 miles cross country?

This was cited in the Indictment - 1.5 miles from the initial recovery site-- through rough terrain.

It's more likely that the body was tampered with where MR relocated the skull, using the road, versus an animal carrying Dylan's skull across rough terrain (see pg 4 of Indictment). MOO

IMO, the indictment implies authorities believe that MR likely moved Dylan's skull.

Reportedly, a witness observed MR driving down from the gate alone, April 2013.

Around June 2013, some of Dylan's remains were located about 8 miles up Middle Mountain Road from Mark's house (roughly 1 mile past the gate which closes seasonally end of November).

In 2015 - Dylan's skull was located by hikers about 1.5 miles from the first recovery site through very tough terrain -- more easily accessible by Middle Mountain Rd, consistent with a human moving it. (See pg 3).

https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/wp-con...nty-Grand-Jury-Indictment-of-Mark-Redwine.pdf

^^bbm

ETA: Defense is probably trying to map this out with google Exhibit that we didn't see.

 

[Cindizzi]

Did anyone else catch this today when Prosecution was on redirect of Tonya Golbricht, he asked her about a sock found during a search of MR house and what MR explanation was. Then he has to find a report (written by Tom Cowing)to refresh her recollection. After she looks it over he asked what did MR say about that sock. She says he gave a plain black sock to Cowing and said he believed it was Dylan’s. Prosecutor asked where did Tom Cowing first see that sock and she says it was in the bed of the GMC truck. Defense quickly calls hearsay and Judge agrees. Says to strike it from the record. Prosecution says they will bring it in with a different witness.
Curious to know where MR said he found it.
Starting at 1:53:00

 

[Cindizzi]

Wildlife expert: Fatal animal attack ‘highly unlikely’ in Redwine case

Golbricht recalled a tip that law enforcement received in August 2016 reporting that Redwine was seen throwing away multiple items in a dumpster off County Road 223, between Elmore’s Corner and Bayfield, north of U.S. Highway 160. She went to the scene and found multiple pictures of Dylan and Elaine Hall in the trash, she testified.

She said Redwine voluntarily turned over a fishing pole July 16, 2014, that law enforcement and rescue workers had searched for since Dylan’s disappearance more than a year earlier. When Dylan went missing on Nov.19, 2012, Redwine said Dylan may have gone fishing – a frequent hobby of his.

 

[Seattle1]

Wildlife expert: Fatal animal attack ‘highly unlikely’ in Redwine case

Golbricht recalled a tip that law enforcement received in August 2016 reporting that Redwine was seen throwing away multiple items in a dumpster off County Road 223, between Elmore’s Corner and Bayfield, north of U.S. Highway 160. She went to the scene and found multiple pictures of Dylan and Elaine Hall in the trash, she testified.

She said Redwine voluntarily turned over a fishing pole July 16, 2014, that law enforcement and rescue workers had searched for since Dylan’s disappearance more than a year earlier. When Dylan went missing on Nov.19, 2012, Redwine said Dylan may have gone fishing – a frequent hobby of his.

Thanks for this update. I'd somehow missed that Dylan's "missing fishing pole" was located by MR-- two years after MR said it was missing, and LE and rescue workers couldn't find it.

 

[LaborDayRN]

So can anybody show me scientific facts on which animals transports human beings with all their belongings as well?

I would say the human type of animal......

 

[Cindizzi]

Thanks for this update. I'd somehow missed that Dylan's "missing fishing pole" was located by MR-- two years after MR said it was missing, and LE and rescue workers couldn't find it.

It was the first I knew of this. I was watching and either the question or her answer was that MR “ found it “ and gave it to Deputy TB. Prosecutor asked if this was before or after DR’s remains found, she said after. He tried to ask something about the fact that MR had always maintained the idea of gone fishing. Of course many objections by defense, he reworded it and she confirmed that was his story from the beginning.

 

[Warwick7]

I'm not sure how the defense will propose an animal attack as the cause of Dylan's death when they get their turn.

They will be hamstrung by this witness's testimony that will be very difficult to refute. They can suggest a cougar attack but they will have to explain why Dylan went up Middle Mountain Rd to be attacked in the first place.

They will have to convince the jury that Dylan hiked up that road for no reason to then be attacked by a cougar and then some other animal moved Dylan's skull 1.5 miles away over extreme vertical terrain. JMO

If all the jury heard today from prosecution was that testimony and how MR dumped Dylan's picture that would sink it. MOO

 

[LaborDayRN]

If your son is missing would you throw his pictures in a garbage bin?

I'd be too busy crying over them to think of doing anything else. They would be cherished forever.
I can't even fathom a parent disposing of pictures of a son who was missing and they professed to love.

 

[Warwick7]

Wildlife expert: Fatal animal attack ‘highly unlikely’ in Redwine case

Golbricht recalled a tip that law enforcement received in August 2016 reporting that Redwine was seen throwing away multiple items in a dumpster off County Road 223, between Elmore’s Corner and Bayfield, north of U.S. Highway 160. She went to the scene and found multiple pictures of Dylan and Elaine Hall in the trash, she testified.

She said Redwine voluntarily turned over a fishing pole July 16, 2014, that law enforcement and rescue workers had searched for since Dylan’s disappearance more than a year earlier. When Dylan went missing on Nov.19, 2012, Redwine said Dylan may have gone fishing – a frequent hobby of his.

So they HAVE the fishing pole?? Heturned it over to them??
*slaps my forehead*

 

[Seattle1]

So they HAVE the fishing pole?? Heturned it over to them??
*slaps my forehead*

So the defense will sleep on this and by morning it will be that MR gave investigators Dylan's old fishing pole -- not the latest and greatest, favorite pole that MR bought for Dylan because MR was such a generous, exceptional father to Dylan. Nope, that one is still missing.

MOO