CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #12

[vasportsmom]

OT:I am jealous that you actually did some of your shopping. I was in the mall yesterday, and ended up doing ONE tiny errand and turning around and going home. LOL It was too overwhelming, too crowded and too darn Chrsitmassy for me at the time. :beamup:

If it weren't for my husband literally dragging me out to shop I wouldn't have did it. I hate venturing out between Thanksgiving and New Years. Now I am gonna go grab fast food and settle in for an evening of WS. I'm behind on so many cases and that must be rectified.


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[Kamille]

He has an attorney though, his divorce attorney. He just saw him the Monday that Dylan disappeared.

Don't think his divorce attorney, who likely specializes in family law, would agree to represent him in a criminal case. He'd probably refer him to a criminal defence attorney colleague and I believe MR has consulted with one but has not retained one.

MOO

 

[jdmyangel]

not sure how to connect up to other posts but the question asked if anyone thought he might still be alive--i say yes

a scenario i thought of--and could be a few things--but i still havent ruled out the someone, either parent(s) or other relative hiding DR--people ask why would they do that, but some would do anything for their children--i first thought of how or why MR would--for him, if he was a trucker (which was mentioned in the NG interview with ER that he traveled alot for his work)--maybe he hid him in a truck, or something--could have been transported anywhere-even across the state line (country) and that would explain why FBI may be involved or speculated--the phone would be taken away to not be traced and or who knows if a cell signal can even be reached in a truck bed (box truck/semi)--MR could have not expected this to blow up in searches, so nationally like it did--again dont know how to link but right after ER spoke on MR--and MR replied how she making this into something it isn't--maybe he meant something like this--MR would have easy access at thta point to "visit" DR wherever he is, if he was out of town all the time--but after it all blew up and got so much attention (DR's disappearance) MR hasnt been able to get away--just a thought
i have a hard time too thinking that MR would have been drunk or intoxicated when he picked up DR from airport--i would hope security there wouldnt let him leave if he was intoxicated

or anyone could (family) come and picked DR up after MR left that morning--maybe DR knew it was going to happen--just speculating


my biggest worry is DR went off and hurt himself more then anything--he was so stuck in such a bad situation all together and my heart aches for him

all just my opinion

 

[PaulR]

Don't think his divorce attorney, who likely specializes in family law, would agree to represent him in a criminal case. He'd probably refer him to a criminal defence attorney colleague and I believe MR has consulted with one but has not retained one.

MOO

Agreed. My point is that MR could have easily found an attorney if he wanted one for that specific interview. Apologies if that wasn't clear.

 

[Confusion]

From the posts I've read so far - do I have this right?

If he sent texts to DR and waited for an answer before checking with the friends, he is guilty and sending texts to cover it up.

If he had gone directly to check with the friends, he's guilty and knew he wouldn't answer a text

If he waited to call the police, he was guilty and working on covering his tracks

If he had called them right away, he's guilty and already knew he was dead

If he avoids the press, he's guilty and doesn't want people to realize it (or doesn't care)

If he talks to the press, he's guilty and just wanting attention for himself

If he ignores ER, he's guilty and just being cold and unhelpful

If he talks to ER, he's guilty and killed him to get her back into the area

If he says he passed the LDT, he's guilty and lying about it

If he says his LDT was inconclusive, he's guilty and lied about it during the test

If he stays away from the searches, he's guilty and being uncooperative

If he helps with the searches, he's guilty and wants to be around to hide evidence.

:waitasec:

 

[Eileen730]

Darn, the quote from the paper isnt showing. Wanted to comment on the part that said Mark was texting Dylan all afternoon.

Now, lets remember what Elaine said. Dylan was tech savvy. We have not ever heard her say that she's had a hard time in the past not being able to get ahold of Dylan via text or even cell.

Here we have Mark saying he texted Dylan all afternoon unable to get a hold of him. He surely knew (from the September visit) how attached Dylan was to his phone.

So to me, if he tried to text Dylan even twice with no response (remember we have been told texts go through moreso than phones when coverage is spotty, for some odd reason) - he should have been suspicious that something was wrong right then and there.

If he was sure Dylan was with his friends, why didn't he try to text or call his friends? If he didn't have any of Dylan's friend's cells or text info, why? If he didn't, this doesn't impress me either - a good parent should always know the number of their friend(s), in the event the cell dies, they can still get a hold of the friend and confirm you are okay.

Mark has said in interviews he knows how important Dylan's friends are to him. So why would he not have their contact info?

So all these factors combined, he should have been concerned with lack of response from Dylan A LOT SOONER than 4-5 hours. I can see one or two texts maybe not getting through to Dylan. But 4-5 hours worth of no replies from Dylan? No!

Agreed!

My kids know if I call or Text them they better ans within a certain amount of time otherwise im comming after them....I start calling friends and mom's.
My sons friends mom's do the same and call me...


BTW Hubby does the same!
He would not sit by waiting for my son all day if he couldnt call or text him.

 

[LotusPawprint]

This is one of the most bothersome and telling comments by MR for me:


When contacted Monday, Mark Redwine declined to be interviewed, saying, “At this point, I think I’ve said as much as I need to say.”


He added: “The community’s been great. My problem is my ex-wife. She seems to have all the answers, and she seems to be the one everybody wants to listen to.”



Whenever someone says-" I have nothing to say" and then proceeds to say something- it's been my experience that next comment is usually something they REALLY want to go off on some tirade about. That's jmExperience though.

And he's contacted for an interview and he almost immediately responds saying his problem is his EX??? Not his missing child??


And SHE has all of the answers??

REALLY???

I beg to differ.... MR has so many of the answers I'm looking for. JMO.

He thinks SHE is the one everyone wants to listen to??

REALLY????

These comments strike he as extremely immature, self-serving, attention-seeking, and completely off-balance.

I WANT TO LISTEN TO YOU, MR!!!!!

YOU HAVE THE ANSWERS!!!

Stop deflecting!!

This one hit me when I first read it and it's stuck with me ever since.
IMO.

 

[Bravo]

If there was an abduction unfortunately precious hours were lost with Dad not alerting for hours :banghead: I do take him to task for that. MOO

 

[PaulR]

From the posts I've read so far - do I have this right?

If he sent texts to DR and waited for an answer before checking with the friends, he is guilty and sending texts to cover it up.

If he had gone directly to check with the friends, he's guilty and knew he wouldn't answer a text

If he waited to call the police, he was guilty and working on covering his tracks

If he had called them right away, he's guilty and already knew he was dead

If he avoids the press, he's guilty and doesn't want people to realize it (or doesn't care)

If he talks to the press, he's guilty and just wanting attention for himself

If he ignores ER, he's guilty and just being cold and unhelpful

If he talks to ER, he's guilty and killed him to get her back into the area

If he says he passed the LDT, he's guilty and lying about it

If he says his LDT was inconclusive, he's guilty and lied about it during the test

If he stays away from the searches, he's guilty and being uncooperative

If he helps with the searches, he's guilty and wants to be around to hide evidence.

:waitasec:

You forgot one:
If he didn't comment on the LDT, then he failed and is guilty.

 

[LotusPawprint]

From the posts I've read so far - do I have this right?

If he sent texts to DR and waited for an answer before checking with the friends, he is guilty and sending texts to cover it up.

If he had gone directly to check with the friends, he's guilty and knew he wouldn't answer a text

If he waited to call the police, he was guilty and working on covering his tracks

If he had called them right away, he's guilty and already knew he was dead

If he avoids the press, he's guilty and doesn't want people to realize it (or doesn't care)

If he talks to the press, he's guilty and just wanting attention for himself

If he ignores ER, he's guilty and just being cold and unhelpful

If he talks to ER, he's guilty and killed him to get her back into the area

If he says he passed the LDT, he's guilty and lying about it

If he says his LDT was inconclusive, he's guilty and lied about it during the test

If he stays away from the searches, he's guilty and being uncooperative

If he helps with the searches, he's guilty and wants to be around to hide evidence.

:waitasec:

Is that one person's line of thought or multiple lines of thought all thrown together to make anyone who thinks MR might be guilty look like they're completely irrational?

 

[Linda7NJ]

Agreed!

My kids know if I call or Text them they better ans within a certain amount of time otherwise im comming after them....I start calling friends and mom's.
My sons friends mom's do the same and call me...

My son, last year, thought he was slick by claiming his phones battery died when he actually went somewhere where he was strictly forbidden to go.

We all have iPhones and the app Life360. If the phone is on.... GPS locates us and shows exactly where we are. I love it! So he thought he was gonna pull a fast one, go anyway, shut the phone off to get away with it!

Kids can be so stupid! Where he wasn't supposed to be, was the first place I looked.,,,, SURPRISE!

Guess who lost the phone and was grounded for two weeks?


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[MoonFlwr]

It depends on what you bought us for Christmas.

:floorlaugh: love it!

 

[shefner]

Since dad didn't really make use of his visitation when Dylan lived near him, then that leads me to believe 1 of 2 things about this visitation:
1. Dad has had a change of heart and truly misses Dylan
2. Dad just wants to keep hurting mom....and used this visitation over Thanksgiving to do just that.

 

[Confusion]

Is that one person's line of thought or multiple lines of thought all thrown together to make anyone who thinks MR might be guilty look like they're completely irrational?

No, it's not.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Since dad didn't really make use of his visitation when Dylan lived near him, then that leads me to believe 1 of 2 things about this visitation:
1. Dad has had a change of heart and truly misses Dylan
2. Dad just wants to keep hurting mom....and used this visitation over Thanksgiving to do just that.

My money is on number two


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[SmoothOperator]

They aren't obligated to search the whole state of CO unless they believe they could find some evidence at the locations they are searching.

Jumping off this post regarding areas searched today..
IMO the designated search area for today does not in any way coincide with any theories of Dylan setting out on foot and met with foul play from there..

I am curious to know for any who are of a strong opinion that Dylan made it to dad's Sunday night, slept in Monday morning missing out on plans that even dad, himself has time and again reiterated were of extreme importance to Dylan..and at some point thereafter dad's leaving for Durango Dylan got up..never made any contact whatsoever with a single, solitary, soul on this earth(including the friends he'd missed the higly anticipated meeting up with)..and set out on foot with his backpack and damn near every single possession he'd brought with him..along with a fishing pole..intent on walking/hitching a ride toward Bayfield to get to his friends that he never made any contact with at any point in time on Monday.

What are the thoughts on the fact that LE are not at all focusing or searching the direction for which this theory is based upon(ie. Dylan's intention of getting to his friends after having overslept missing his early morning, prearranged ride to them)..

Much much different is the fact that LE ARE FOCUSED ON AND SEARCHING THE EXACT OPPOSITE DIRECTION..

LE are NOT seeking photos/videos of the route(any route) from dad's home to the friends homes... LE has NOT organized searches of a route from dad's home to the friends homes..

LE is focused on and has even zoned in on a specific area between Durango and dad's home in requesting multiple times to the public that any/all who have any type of video or pics of these specifci areas during the time of when Dylan flew in through around noon of the day he was reported missing(Monday, November 19) to please share this with LE..

Along with LE has chosen to use what is possibly the last organized, intensive search due to possible upcoming weather conditions..LE IS USING THAT WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY TO NOT FOCUS ON SEARCHING ANY AREAS THAT DYLAN WOHLD HAVE TAKEN HAD HE SET OUT TO GET TO HIS FRIENDS ON MONDAY FROM HIS DAD'S...BUT RATHER TO ZERO IN WITH AN EXTREMELY LARGE, WELL ORGANIZED, INTENSIVE SEARCH OF THE SPECIFIC AREAS BETWEEN DURANGO AND DAD'S HOME..

FOR ME THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES...iMHO how could that very specific focus not speak volumes as to what or where LE are focused as far as finding Dylan and/or any evidence of what happened to Dylan..or better yet it speaks volumes as to where LE do NOT expect to find Dylan, nor any traces or evidence of what happened to Dylan(ie. Dylan heading to his friends AT ANY POINT IN TIME)..

JMO.

Or someone who thinks he's pretty clever and thinks his story sounds pretty good.

The latter is working around here a bit. Just sayin.

Oh but you are ever so correct, my friend in your last point made above..

Of course:moo:

 

[MoonFlwr]

From the posts I've read so far - do I have this right?

If he sent texts to DR and waited for an answer before checking with the friends, he is guilty and sending texts to cover it up.

If he had gone directly to check with the friends, he's guilty and knew he wouldn't answer a text

If he waited to call the police, he was guilty and working on covering his tracks

If he had called them right away, he's guilty and already knew he was dead

If he avoids the press, he's guilty and doesn't want people to realize it (or doesn't care)

If he talks to the press, he's guilty and just wanting attention for himself

If he ignores ER, he's guilty and just being cold and unhelpful

If he talks to ER, he's guilty and killed him to get her back into the area

If he says he passed the LDT, he's guilty and lying about it

If he says his LDT was inconclusive, he's guilty and lied about it during the test

If he stays away from the searches, he's guilty and being uncooperative

If he helps with the searches, he's guilty and wants to be around to hide evidence.

:waitasec:

Thank you for this!

 

[AlexisFresca]

Since dad didn't really make use of his visitation when Dylan lived near him, then that leads me to believe 1 of 2 things about this visitation:
1. Dad has had a change of heart and truly misses Dylan
2. Dad just wants to keep hurting mom....and used this visitation over Thanksgiving to do just that.

Plus now we know this is not the first time Mark has had 'bonding' issues with his children, ie his son Nick.

 

[Eileen730]

If there was an abduction unfortunately precious hours were lost with Dad not alerting for hours :banghead: I do take him to task for that. MOO

I feel LE is not looking at this as an abduction.
JMO

 

[Bravo]

I feel LE is not looking at this as an abduction.
JMO

Me either