CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #20

[aust amateur slueth]

IMO, I am not exactly convinced that MR is innocent, but I do not think there is any proof that either parent is an alcoholic. Perhaps some posters are projecting their own experiences a bit. Maybe someone should open a thread in the Jury Room for children of alcoholics.

Anyway, jmo.

IMO

there are people who get nasty when they drink
there are people who get depressed when they drink
there are people who get happy when they drink
there are people who can handle their drink
there are people who can't handle their drink
there are people who have a problem with alcohol
there are people who don't have a problem with alcohol
there are people who are alcoholics who don't admit it
there are people who are alcoholics who do admit it

whether either parent fits any of those descriptions is not known as fact. some people who have been around drinkers are able to see signs that indicate a drinker, that doesn't necessarily mean MR is an alcoholic.

 

[SoSueMe]

Folks, we have allowed the discussion of Dylan's father in this case because there are a lot of questions surrounding Dylan's disappearance and he was the last person known to see him prior to his disappeance.

We do not know what happened to Dylan or who is responsible. It is not a foregone conclusion that MR is responsible for the disappearance of his son.

We are web sleuths and as web sleuths, we'd like to see any and all possibilities as to what may have happened to Dylan discussed here. Any members chastising other members for putting forth alternative theories will be hit with hefty timeouts.

All reasonable theories and discussion of facts are welcome in this thread.

Please carry on and let's do what we do best.

Thank you.

 

[YidArmyRach]

I know there are people on here clinging to the hope that Dylan is being hidden somewhere and is safe and sound, just waiting to be found. And I know even they admit its unlikely, but here is a story just breaking in the UK today:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-father-way-home-mother-years-Pakistan.htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-father-way-home-mother-years-Pakistan.html

Briefly, the little girl was on an access visit with the dad, he said he was taking her to the beach, but actually flew her out to Pakistan. He returned to the UK shortly afterwards without her .... and refused to say where she was. He variously claimed to have given her away, that she was in Iran and that he didn't know where she was.

He is currently in jail, for refusing to say what happened to her.

Amazingly, 3 years later ...... she has been discovered with family members of his in Pakistan and her mum is now on her way to the airport for a reunion - having spent 3 years not knowing if her daughter was even alive.

So, it just proves that anything is possible and sometimes miracles do happen

 

[SCHMAE]

Morning all and DYLAN , I wanted to show some wonderful news and to remind everyone that this is why you hold out hope. When all hope is fading, there is still a reason to believe in a miracle !

http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/Missing-California-girl-found-on-UK-campus-185005171.html


Don't you think her parents were nearing the end of their hope ?
It could be Dylan today or tomorrow or anyday.
I think most of us fear the worst but until they find something
the proves otherwise, he may still be walking and talking somewhere.
COME HOME DYLAN !

 

[Eileen730]

Not being snarky, but can I ask why you think that? Because of one instance after a 4th of July party?

Actually I thought it when I saw him! Then after hearing about the incident as you put it it pretty much confirmed it for me.

Why is it this woman wont sit down and talk to this man about their missing child?
Obvioulsy there is way more to this story that we are not privy too. ER had to live with him and ill bet ya my last dollar there was not just one incident that there were many others just not reported to LE.

Alcoholics can destroy lives and families it is a sickness and if the person dosent seek some kind of help its a downward spiral!.

IF MR is responsible I dont think this man intended to harm his child I think it happend out of anger and frustration in a man that cant controll his actions when under the influence. I do believe the cell phone was the trigger and 8 pm sunday was the witching hour!

All JMO

 

[Eileen730]

IMO, I am not exactly convinced that MR is innocent, but I do not think there is any proof that either parent is an alcoholic. Perhaps some posters are projecting their own experiences a bit. Maybe someone should open a thread in the Jury Room for children of alcoholics.

Anyway, jmo.

I think the fact that he was passed out after his little sexcapade out on the front lawn is a factor in all this. His son went after him for im sure a good reason. When he came too he didnt even know what happened. Sorry very bad judgement if ya ask me and shows he cant controll himself esp in front of his children!

JMO

On another note why have we not seen footage or photos of DAD in Walmart?

 

[Eileen730]

Just because the general public is unaware, doesn't mean he hasn't provided information to LE. Last I checked he was not a suspect or POI.

But dosent he have 2 lawyers?

 

[SCHMAE]

But dosent he have 2 lawyers?

As far as I can tell, there was no confirmation that he ' hired' a criminal lawyer. He says he talked to or consulted one. I would think he hired him but maybe just took advantage of a ' free consult' like a lot of lawyers do. If he's truly innocent , he may feel a lawyer is a waste of money or if he's guilty and so arrogant he may think he 'll never get caught. I'm just not sure he's hired one.

 

[Eileen730]

Why do you think ER moved on and MR didn't? This is what is so infuriating. One did and one didn't. What is that based on? ty

Wanting to get better and making a better life for yourself and your children!
Its called Climbing out of hole you dug for yourself!

Where would she be if she stayed with him?
I think she made the wise smart choice!
Sometimes u have to just move on! Make the best of it!


All JMO

 

[Eileen730]

As far as I can tell, there was no confirmation that he ' hired' a criminal lawyer. He says he talked to or consulted one. I would think he hired him but maybe just took advantage of a ' free consult' like a lot of lawyers do. If he's truly innocent , he may feel a lawyer is a waste of money or if he's guilty and so arrogant he may think he 'll never get caught. I'm just not sure he's hired one.

True that but dont you think he has hired a criminal lawyer?

I cant imagine him not having a lawyer at this time!
No matter if your innocent or guilty

I think ER has one also!

JMO

 

[JustJeannie]

On another note why have we not seen footage or photos of DAD in Walmart?

SBM

Because Dad isn't missing, so there is no reason for them to show a picture of MR in Walmart.

 

[Eileen730]

SBM

Because Dad isn't missing, so there is no reason for them to show a picture of MR in Walmart.

Naaaa for some reason he was cut out!
JMO

It would show the dynamics between them Why leave him out?
Seems strange to me.
Why not show them walking in together or out?
Why just one frozen shot of dylan?

We saw Casey at Walmart!
We saw Baby Lisas mom with her brother buying wine?
Why not show dad and dylan?

 

[JustJeannie]

I just don't see why they would show MR there. You say it would show the dynamics between them. I suppose it might, but what good would the public seeing that do? It's not going to help find Dylan, which is the only reason I can see for their releasing any pictures.

I'm going to assume - and forgive me if I'm wrong, I'm just going by your other posts - that you think it would show they were fighting. Maybe they were, maybe they weren't. We have no way of knowing. But IF they were, how is showing it (or showing them getting along wonderfully for that matter,) going to help the public find Dylan? I can't see any way that it would.

Right or wrong, this LE agency is obviously playing everything very close to the vest, and not giving out any information they don't feel they have to. JMO

 

[SCHMAE]

Could be they used the divide and conquer method at walmart. You run over to that end and get the snacks you want and I'll go over to this end and get shampoo and what not and we meet at check out in 10 minutes. Maybe when the 2 are standing together, the view is obstructed by other shoppers or endcaps full of dvd's and you cannot see them well enough. Just some thoughts.

 

[bessie]

Could be they used the divide and conquer method at walmart. You run over to that end and get the snacks you want and I'll go over to this end and get shampoo and what not and we meet at check out in 10 minutes. Maybe when the 2 are standing together, the view is obstructed by other shoppers or endcaps full of dvd's and you cannot see them well enough. Just some thoughts.

Those are my thoughts as well. If my son and I walked into Walmart when he was a teen, he'd head straight for the electronics section to check out the DVD's, CD's, etc., while I slogged through the aisles looking for groceries and cleaning products. Besides, the focus is on Dylan, and making sure his image is clearly presented to the public. A second person in the picture could possibly confuse some folks. JMO

 

[Eileen730]

I just don't see why they would show MR there. You say it would show the dynamics between them. I suppose it might, but what good would the public seeing that do? It's not going to help find Dylan, which is the only reason I can see for their releasing any pictures.

I'm going to assume - and forgive me if I'm wrong, I'm just going by your other posts - that you think it would show they were fighting. Maybe they were, maybe they weren't. We have no way of knowing. But IF they were, how is showing it (or showing them getting along wonderfully for that matter,) going to help the public find Dylan? I can't see any way that it would.

Right or wrong, this LE agency is obviously playing everything very close to the vest, and not giving out any information they don't feel they have to. JMO

Well I think it would give a look at how they were together that night before this child went missing.
Im sorry I think its an important piece to this puzzle this is the last person to see Dylan.

I also think there is a reason LE has not released this info.
This is just my opinion and nothing more.
That child did not look happy in that pic they released and I thought maybe the rest of the video would show why? who knows!

Better question is Why NOT show Dad? They were together!

 

[Eileen730]

If they were having a great old time in walmart belive me they would show it!
That kid looks forlorned to me hes mad because he cant go to his friends house

My kids text their way thru walmart. phone in hand always!
where is Dylans phone?

Just a thought!

 

[Eileen730]

Those are my thoughts as well. If my son and I walked into Walmart when he was a teen, he'd head straight for the electronics section to check out the DVD's, CD's, etc., while I slogged through the aisles looking for groceries and cleaning products. Besides, the focus is on Dylan, and making sure his image is clearly presented to the public. A second person in the picture could possibly confuse some folks. JMO

Dont ya think it would help dad out if they were having a good time together?

Ok off to work bbl

 

[The Cheese]

For the tight-knit town that now has posters up everywhere, the thought of an abduction was completely unexpected, yet, investigators told Action 7 News that's exactly what they think happened.

http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico...17707274/-/pj5977z/-/index.html#ixzz2GMAEYHh0

Dylan's most recent poster from crimestoppers. Please post it on the internet and hand it out in your neighborhood -
http://www.durangolaplatacrimestoppers.org/Pictures/Reward Poster - Dylan Redwine 12-27-12 (rev).pdf

Here's a closeup of Dylan's face. Please remember it -

 

[JustJeannie]

Well I think it would give a look at how they were together that night before this child went missing.
Im sorry I think its an important piece to this puzzle this is the last person to see Dylan.

I also think there is a reason LE has not released this info.
This is just my opinion and nothing more.
That child did not look happy in that pic they released and I thought maybe the rest of the video would show why? who knows!

Better question is Why NOT show Dad? They were together!

It might very well be an important part of the puzzle - for LE. Not for the general public. Again, I just can't see any way releasing it to the general public would help find Dylan. It's LE's job to build a case (if one is indeed being built,) not the public's. The public's "job" is to help LE find Dylan. Seeing Dad in Walmart is unlikely to help with that, IMO.

I also have to agree with those who mentioned "divide and conquer." At 13, my boys would take off for the electronics aisle as well. And I can guarantee you that unless we were there specifically to get them something they wanted, they would not look happy to be there, because they wouldn't be. Shopping with parents was never high on their "to do" list. They also would not want to be walking close to Mom or Dad. Definitely not the "cool" thing to do at that age, at least among my three sons and all their friends. Even walking through the parking lot, they were always a good ways ahead of, or behind me at that age.