CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #46

[Eileen730]

How In heavens name could MR have offered to help Elaine with the fundraising when he has not spoken to her in 3 yrs? Telepathy maybe!

 

[mixologist74]

Prior to the polygraph Dr. Phil said if one of his sons were missing he would be doing everything possible to find them but he told Mark Redwine that he was acting the complete opposite. Mark Redwine did not show any emotion during the two-day taping of the show.

“You seem diametrically opposite from that. You seem smug, you seem cavalier, you seem unplugged, you seem combative. You just seem like you just aren't engaged. Which makes me think either you don't care or you already have the answer,” Dr. Phil told Mark Redwine.

Back stage Dr. Phil told Mark that if he takes the polygraph and he has nothing to do with Dylan's disappearance it will clear him.

“I don't know what happened here. If you have your son stashed somewhere or if God forbid you flew into a rage and you hurt him accidentally and he's dead, if something has happened I will help you deal with it now and we will go recover that young man. Because if you are involved it's just a matter of time,” Dr. Phil said, adding that his offer had a shelf life. “If you're not involved then there's something seriously wrong with you because your reaction to this, something's wrong.”

http://www.ourcoloradonews.com/news...cle_e98ce2fa-8277-11e2-80f5-001a4bcf887a.html

BBM

I think Dr. Phil nailed Mark to a tee....JMO....but I did provide a link

IMO, Dr Phil already knew what he was going to say anyway, going into this he was going to point fingers at MR. <modsnip>.

 

[Emma Ems]

I'm not sure it's any of our business as to what the "dynamics" are.

The main goal has and continues to be to get Dylan's face out there and to find Dylan.

Actually it does when people are asking questions about why was Mark turned away or not and someone says well it was DH not Elaine, or something along those lines. My understanding is that DH and ER are suppose to be team, at least that's what I thought, that DH was suppose to be helping ER, for them to help Dylan. If, and I say if in a big way, the whole picture is about helping Dylan why would someone turn down Mark if he has offered to help. In a way, if DH is acting as spokesperson for ER and she is not allowing Mark to help when he offers it makes it seem like ER is not allowing him to help. It does reflect on ER IMO.

Again if this is what's going on, that Mark has offered to help and been turned away and then people are going around posting about him not helping it kind of makes it look like there is a deliberate attempt to make it appear as if MR is not helping, where the fact may be that he has tried but has been turned away. There is a big difference IMO of making the effort and being turned down, than just making no effort whatsoever.

 

[findDylan]

If Mark Redwine did try to organize a fundraiser, how successful would it be?

He doesn't seem to be well liked by the public, would that affect the success of any fundraiser that he would try without any tie to Elaine?

It doesn't matter if he is well liked. If the fundraiser is for Dylan people will go for Dylan. It isn't about MR. Why doest his brother set something up? Or his sister?

Even if 10 people came and donated $5 each that would be $50 more dollars that could go towards the fund. You don't have to give your name when you go to wells Fargo to donate to the fund.

<modsnip>.

This is all my own opinion.

 

[*Lash*]

If Mark Redwine did try to organize a fundraiser, how successful would it be?

He doesn't seem to be well liked by the public, would that affect the success of any fundraiser that he would try without any tie to Elaine?

There's one way to find out...Just do it. Try it. See how it goes. What does he have to lose?

 

[SuperMom1995]

EXACTLY!! That "sense of urgency"...not "oh by the way, I haven't seen my kid all day, if you spot him can you bang him on the head and have him "communicate" with someone". :banghead:

OR dump him at Walmart?

 

[RANCH]

It doesn't matter if he is well liked. If the fundraiser is for Dylan people will go for Dylan. It isn't about MR. Why doest his brother set something up? Or his sister?

Even if 10 people came and donated $5 each that would be $50 more dollars that could go towards the fund. You don't have to give your name when you go to wells Fargo to donate to the fund.

Everyone needs to stop making excuses for MR.

This is all my own opinion.

That makes sense. If any fundraisers are only about Dylan then it shouldn't matter if it's organized by Elaine or Mark.

I hope that you don't think that I'm trying to make excuses for Mark. I was only asking a couple of questions.

 

[azgrandma]

http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20130126/NEWS01/130129704/0/SPORTS


Redwine also claimed he was contacted by a woman who wanted to do a raffle to raise money for the Dylan Redwine reward fund, now $50,450, but Elaine Redwine and Hess turned down the offer.

also this:

Yet Mark Redwine said his ex-wife and Hess actually have left him out of a number of events, sometimes not giving him enough notice to attend.

HTH ..

Thank you for the link Ransom. also jumping off your post.

I'm wondering why MR didn't accept the offer from the woman instead of relying on ER & DH to do it for him. With publications in the news, fb and within the community I wonder how much head up notice MR needs to be able to attend a function that is meant to either raise funds for or awareness of his missing child. When the rally, that this article was referring to, MR had less than a week notice via fb and only a couple days via news to make plans NOT to be home.

Also from the article inn regards to family members indicating MR was introverted (exact oposite is relayed here)

Cory said that Mark Redwine usually is not reluctant to be out front.

“If he thinks he’s right, he’ll do everything he can to be out front. He doesn’t back down when he’s in the right,” Cory Redwine said. “He’s laid low and hasn’t really done a whole lot.”

IMO MR needs little notice to NOT be present:
http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...0/SEARCH/Redwine-family-plans-rally-for-Dylan
Article posted 1/23 and rally held 1/26

IMO MR needs MORE notice to be present:

http://www.ourcoloradonews.com/tril...cle_6f7ab394-5b5c-11e2-85f8-001a4bcf887a.html
Article posted 1/10 fundraiser held 1/17

 

[asyousay]

Thank you for verifying this. I KNEW I'd read it somewhere other than just hearing it from family.

It still does not mean it IS the true version of events IMO

 

[imamaze]

Knock off the biased talk. Argue the content of the post only within TOS, alert if you think a post is against TOS or pass it on by.

Ima

 

[RANCH]

There's one way to find out...Just do it. Try it. See how it goes. What does he have to lose?

That would be the ultimate way of knowing. But I have feeling that some in the public would claim that any fundraiser organized by Mark was only "deflection" and not a sincere effort to help find Dylan. They would therefore decline to donate to such an effort. MOO.

 

[findDylan]

That makes sense. If any fundraisers are only about Dylan then it shouldn't matter if it's organized by Elaine or Mark.

I hope that you don't think that I'm trying to make excuses for Mark. I was only asking a couple of questions.

Sorry if you thought I was saying you were trying to make excuses. I do not think that at all.

 

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[The Cheese]

Picture of Dylan recently posted on the official FMDR facebook
https://www.facebook.com/FindMissingDylanRedwine

 

[katydid23]

I love that picture of him playing Baseball. What a sweetheart. :heartbeat:

 

[SuperMom1995]

MAIL CARRIER
From Dr. Phil Show – 1st Day
Tuesday, February 26, 2013

Mail Carrier (Angie) - Clip:
On the day Dylan went missing, I saw 2 boys walking down the road not too far from where Dylan lives. It was around 1:30 in the afternoon. When I saw the boys, I thought to myself, Hey, there’s Mark’s son, Dylan. The next day I talked to Mark, and he said Dylan hadn’t come home all night, and he was really worried about him. I really don’t think Mark was the last person to see Dylan that day.

FULL TRANSCRIPT in its entirety for Day 1 of the Dr. Phil Show: Find Missing Dylan Redwine

Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191821&page=4

Thank you NC! You had answered them with the link before I got to that post. I have been playing a lot of catch up lately.

 

[jjenny]

They must have a scent or dna from MRs house.

Since Dylan has been there before for labor day, DNA wouldn't prove he was in the house in Nov. I think they are going by cell phone records.

 

[ColdHands]

I love that picture of him playing Baseball. What a sweetheart. :heartbeat:

I saw that youth leagues for spring baseball are starting soon and it just hit me yesterday. Praying daily for Dylan.

 

[scorekeeper]

http://www.pinerivertimes.com/news.asp?artid=1149

Mark's and Dylan's interactions and activities within the community on November 18th and 19th, as well as tips related to persons, locations and sightings remain under investigation.

Investigators are reviewing recent information including tips, interviews, and reports generated since last November, seeking links that may be helpful as they plan and conduct future searches and interviews, and determine additional evidence analysis needs.
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BBM

It looks like the official press release posted on PineRiver Times

 

[Emma Ems]

Even if 10 people came and donated $5 each that would be $50 more dollars that could go towards the fund. You don't have to give your name when you go to wells Fargo to donate to the fund.

<modsnip>.

This is all my own opinion.

If that is the case, that names don't have to be given, how do we know if Mark has or hasn't donated to the fund?