Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #32

[SleuthBee]

In regards to AS not recognizing that his son was being abused by LS; I previously posted my opinion at a professional level from things I have experienced being a Nurse. I unfortunately also have personal experience. I was married to my ex husband for 18 years, he was diagnosed with BPD during our divorce and he was definitely Narcissistic as well.

In my opinion, I don't believe AS just left his children in the care of LS knowing they were possibly being abused.

When you live with someone who BPD or NPD or both its not always explosive and violent. In fact it's scary and confusing how normal things can appear to be most of the time. It's about control for them and being right ALL of the time. It's strange to look back on it now and I often ask myself why I stayed as long as I did. The problem is you learn to adapt. You stop offering your opinion, you do your best not to disagree with them, you do what they want and let them live in a world where they are always right. Your children also learn early on that as long as you don't step out of line there won't be any scary yelling sessions. When the person with the neurosis is in control things can go pretty smoothly and you can function like this for a long time, at least until you grow tired of being stifled and walking on eggshells like I did. My ex husband never physically abused any of us, not even once. But, he did have tantrums and yelled, screamed, threw and broke things etc when he didn't get his way.

Sure, you see things and you know deep down that this person you married needs help. But it's not always obvious abuse or even physical abuse. I honestly believed that he was just strict and I was sensitive for the longest time. Years of this coupled with education and therapy showed me it was not ok.

I filed for a divorce AND that's when the real fun started. In 18 years I had never seen the behavior he exhibited during that time. He did everything possible and I mean EVERYTHING to regain control including a suicide attempt in which I had to do CPR and save his life. That is when he finally got help and a diagnosis. I divorced him and we moved on and he still struggles with angry outbursts when I tell him something he doesn't agree with. I don't know if there is a real fix but he is way better than he used to be and more aware of the consequences of his behavior.

Sorry for the book. I just wanted to share because it's not always cut and dry and I don't think AS saw his children being abused and simply overlooked it. I think she snapped when things started spiraling out of her control. Control is key to these personality types.

@Ladybear There is no need to apologize for the book. It is informative, insightful and a darn good read.

Like you, I was in a long term marriage with a diagnosed NPD. And despite my education and professional standing, I was truly unaware of the disorder. You are right, abuse is not always physical, but the gaslighting, the lying and blaming can be worse. The devil in disguise doesn't have horns and carry a pitchfork.

@Ladybear, I am sure this case triggers memories. And I am glad that you have great courage to share your wisdom and help us understand the reality of living with such person. Thank you

 

[GRT]

Actually I think most (urban) people have never seen a 2X4 before it is dried and planed. That's the point I was making, the 2X4 as we know it is very very common, but it measures considerably less than 2X4, it's 1.5 X 3.5". Green, un-planed 2X4s are not usually accepted by any building codes because their measurements are not standard, they nearly always dry skewed or warped especially at knots, and their strength is not standard because of that. Even if nailed into the structure of a stud wall, they can bulge and push your sheetrock out, and unevenly at that. For a test some day, go to a mill, buy some green, un-planed "2x4's", wrap the ends with tape or string. Leave them for a week and then cut the string, they will pop up into various shapes, especially if they are long. Signed, "been there done that"

You're right in that green wood should not be used to frame a house, but by the time studs arrive at lumberyards, Menards, Lowes, etc., they're supposed to be kiln-dried. That said, in my 30 years as a residential contractor, I've seen green wood -- slightly wet -- being delivered. And, you're right, it can warp and twist as it dries.

My only point is that 2x4s are quite common, and people use them to build other things, such as sheds, etc., so if AS was handy, it wouldn't be uncommon to find them in his garage.

 

[Trocroc9]

Imo - At this point in the investigation wouldn’t it be more helpful to have all volunteers on foot looking for GS? (especially since the weather has been so nice and there has been snow melt) I think at one point they had 500 volunteers. I’m getting this nagging feeling LE knows what happened to GS and he is irretrievable for some reason. Where is he???

 

[LeBlack]

I wonder still if this was something she planned for a few days or just a matter of her going into a rage and then when she saw what she had actually done the clean up and lies began,

I know she is a monster but I just hope and pray she didn't set around and plan a way to get rid of Gannon all while that precious little boy went about his life, ugh!!

It's difficult to tell with her personality. She's capable of both. On a previous thread, someone posited that this can be a 'daydream' at first (not really a plan) but when the opportunity (or she was cornered) she had already played scenarios in her head.

IMO, that makes sense. I knew someone like her and believe that EITHER scenario is possible. MOO

 

[DTPeke]

Now why am I feeling like we’ll hear that Sadie ran away.

Agree. Odd nary a post/picture of this new family member on social media. All I have seen are ducks. Hope Al gets Sadie back for the sake of the little one.

 

[GRT]

Now why am I feeling like we’ll hear that Sadie ran away.

Oh dear....

 

[NuttMegg]

You're right in that green wood should not be used to frame a house, but by the time studs arrive at lumberyards, Menards, Lowes, etc., they're supposed to be kiln-dried. That said, in my 30 years as a residential contractor, I've seen green wood -- slightly wet -- being delivered. And, you're right, it can warp and twist as it dries.

My only point is that 2x4s are quite common, and people use them to build other things, such as sheds, etc., so if AS was handy, it wouldn't be uncommon to find them in his garage.

That's what I was saying, that the 2x4's found in his garage would undoubtedly be 1.5X3.5". There was a whole discussion about this a few pages ago, it began with the discussion of how heavy a 2x4 would be. I built a 1.5 story house with green Sitka Spruce studs, joists, rafters etc. because I was outside the borough re building codes. You just have to know how to deal with it to keep it from warping. Generally, at least in Alaska, the building supply industry dictates a lot of building codes, and local mills suffer.

 

[evelezrn]

For anyone interested. WOW. LS pegged, too.

The Gray Rock Method of Dealing With Psychopaths | 180 RULE

The Gray Rock Method For Handling A Narcissist (Scenarios & Techniques)

WOW.

 

[Rosiebones]

There is the possibility that LT's daughter loves Sadie dearly and doesn't want to give her up. Someone has been taking care of that dog since all that went down. Wonder who.

 

[jillycat]

Oh dear....

I don’t mean she killed the puppy. I just meant that if this keeps AS from having his dog back, then we’ll hear a story of it running away. Control.

My hope is that the puppers is with family and he can have her back.

 

[swanniee11]

I live in CA and volunteer at my kids school multiple times a week. The only thing I’ve had to do is provide an up-to-date TB test. I wonder if different states/districts have different regulations....

I also ran a computer class ( elementary age kids) and worked with students who had difficulties and had to have a FBI/ fingerprint background done. My husband and I also coached our kids softball,baseball,cheering,soccer etc and had to have a background check for that as well. So yes, I guess it depends where you live. I'm in PA

 

[Blissfully_B]

Congrats on new job, but what awful timing.

Yes, the divorce filed but I am not sure of the exact filing date, it is upthread. The Divorce hearing is on the 18th.

Sadie is 4mo old French bulldog.

THE husband of Letecia Stauch, who is accused of killing her 11-year-old stepson, Gannon Stauch, filed for divorce Thursday.

Albert Stauch has called off his marriage to Letecia, who is facing first-degree murder charges after Gannon disappeared in January.

A spokesperson at the Office of the State Court Administrator confirmed the filing to The Sun on Friday.

Albert Stauch said his marriage is "irretrievably broken" in the documents.

The filing also shows Albert ordered the family dog, a three to four-month-old Blue French Bulldog named Sadie, be returned to him immediately.

The dad also said he won't be giving Letecia spousal support.



Albert Stauch's divorce filing says Letecia must return his dog to him.

ETA: odd nary a post/picture of these dogs on her SM just ducks.

Thanks and Thanks for the catch up. I pray that Sadie is alive and well.

 

[AnnaGrace]

Maybe Al didn't have to identify the sock. Maybe LE told him they found a bloody board and one of Gannon’s socks. They knew it was his because of dna results. I think a sock would have dna whether there was blood or not. I'm not yet sold on the board being the weapon. It's possible blood got on the board and she saw it and got rid of it. I think that's why she came up with the foot cut in the garage story, for sure though.

 

[bradfordsleuth]

Congrats on new job, but what awful timing.

Yes, the divorce filed but I am not sure of the exact filing date, it is upthread. The Divorce hearing is on the 18th.

Sadie is 4mo old French bulldog.

THE husband of Letecia Stauch, who is accused of killing her 11-year-old stepson, Gannon Stauch, filed for divorce Thursday.

Albert Stauch has called off his marriage to Letecia, who is facing first-degree murder charges after Gannon disappeared in January.

A spokesperson at the Office of the State Court Administrator confirmed the filing to The Sun on Friday.

Albert Stauch said his marriage is "irretrievably broken" in the documents.

The filing also shows Albert ordered the family dog, a three to four-month-old Blue French Bulldog named Sadie, be returned to him immediately.

The dad also said he won't be giving Letecia spousal support.



Albert Stauch's divorce filing says Letecia must return his dog to him.

Quoted bbm

It looks like the State of Colorado will be the ones supporting her for at least the next 25 years.

 

[shebisch92109]

I also ran a computer class ( elementary age kids) and worked with students who had difficulties and had to have a FBI/ fingerprint background done. My husband and I also coached our kids softball,baseball,cheering,soccer etc and had to have a background check for that as well. So yes, I guess it depends where you live. I'm in PA

I will add, that as a coach, I do have to have a background check.

 

[evelezrn]

We know that LE desperately want to find Gannon, if not for evidence but for Gannon's family. I think this is without saying really.

For those with a knowledge of LE procedure/interrogation, do you think LE would go to TS's attorney and ask for a sit down to try and get her to tell them where he is? Would they ask the attorney to try and talk to TS and find out where he is?

Would there be discussions back and forth between DA/LE and TS's attorney?

What's going on behind the scenes right now?

Anyone want to venture a guess?

BBM

The first thought that came to my mind, "a lot of pants pooping". (Sorry Teal, couldn't resist).

BTW, I love reading your posts.

I am still collecting my thoughts for a serious answer though. Great question.

 

[floridamomma]

My district in SC does background (no fingerprints) on all school volunteers. It’s new because we had a RSO attend a field trip last year. After that, no exceptions! IMO these things tend to be more REactive than PROactive. Once something sketchy happens, there will be new, stronger rules.

Very true. And so much stays hidden. Precisely why we homeschool! We have four adult kids, no more public schools for us!

 

[Rosiebones]

Sounds like Sadie was a Christmas present to someone.

 

[lucidtx]

Imo - At this point in the investigation wouldn’t it be more helpful to have all volunteers on foot looking for GS? (especially since the weather has been so nice and there has been snow melt) I think at one point they had 500 volunteers. I’m getting this nagging feeling LE knows what happened to GS and he is irretrievable for some reason. Where is he???

They couldn't risk using untrained civilians right now, because of the need to handle evidence appropriately. They still should have a decent number of pros at hand if needed, and there's a good chance there are ongoing limited searches being kept from public attention.

 

[MassGuy]

We know that LE desperately want to find Gannon, if not for evidence but for Gannon's family. I think this is without saying really.

For those with a knowledge of LE procedure/interrogation, do you think LE would go to TS's attorney and ask for a sit down to try and get her to tell them where he is? Would they ask the attorney to try and talk to TS and find out where he is?

Would there be discussions back and forth between DA/LE and TS's attorney?

What's going on behind the scenes right now?

Anyone want to venture a guess?

I think it’s certainly worth of shot. I recall one case where the defendant provided the DA with the location of a body, in exchange for the DA not revealing to the jury that the defendant was the one who provided that information (because if he knew where the body was, that would be solid evidence that he was guilty).

I absolutely don’t see that tactic working here, although I think there’s an outside chance that TS will provide the location if there is something in it for her.

Ultimately though, I think law enforcement will have to do this on their own.