Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #45

[Seattle1]

It takes about 12 hours (more or less) for cadaverine to be produced so that the dogs can smell it. I think LE believes Gannon was not in his bed for 12 hours after his death. In a recent study, it took 2 days for byproducts of decomp to show up on a sensitive monitor:

Smell of death can point to murder time

I think cadaverine may have been shown to appear a little earlier than putrescine, but don't quote me. The amount of putrescine and indole can indicate time of death, if a very sensitive instrument is used.

If CoS has one of those meters available or the FBI helped out, maybe they didn't need dogs? But given that she kept moving Gannon's body, it would probably not be in the house. It might be at the place she stashed his body, but perhaps not the first place. Then, it would be everywhere that the suitcase went, starting around Wednesday night, given what's in the AA.

By Wednesday night, I think LE has impounded her car, so that suitcase is somewhere else. Do we have theories on where that could be? Wasn't there a second rental car? When was the moving van rented?

Reportedly, LS collected AS at the CSpgs airport on Tuesday morning around 8:50AM. According to the AA, investigators believe LS drove her VW to the airport with GS body inside her car, and left the VW parked there until late night.

LS and AS drove home in a vehicle (Rio) that LS rented at the airport. (LS alleged she was worried about the mileage on the leased VW but only drove the rental about 70 miles before returning it on Weds).

(I believe HH drove LS to collect the VW Tues night but I don't recall where she left the VW before retrieving it to drive to EPC Sheriff's office around noon Wednesday).

I believe LS Aunt had rented a Nissan that LS started driving after the VW was impounded for evidence collection by EPCS.

I don't recall if cadaver dogs were ever used to search any of the vehicles or inside the house-- if so, I don't think the results ever made public.

If being logical - it follows that LS murdered GS inside the basement but on the other hand, I get the feeling that she inflicted more violence on this child than she could do inside the residence (without being heard) which leaves me wondering if she critically wounded GS in his bed but finished him off after getting him in her car and driving elsewhere.

MOO

 

[Inthedetails]

RSBM <Snipped>
The silver Nissan Altima (second rental), is rented by her aunt is used by LS January 31st - February 1st.

LE placed a GPS TRACKER on this vehicle.

She is tracked back to the location on January 31st where the bloody board was found. There is a map in the AA with the GPS coordinates and times.

The AA theorizes she is in the area in daylight to ensure his remains are hidden, checking on police presence or to dispose of evidence.

IMO I think this will change: this is when she picks the suitcase up/Gannon's body. I think his body was there until the 31st.

It is unclear or I missed it, when the silver Nissan Altima is returned. They state she uses it 31st-1st. It is part of the caravan filmed for the IT interview along with the moving truck.

LE could have tracked her or her family's route to FLA, IF this vehicle was still utilized.

Some commented how the witness list already had a route of FBI office locations that could match her route to Florida for the disposal....

The return of the rental is in the affidavit. I did a timeline of all the times but don't have it handy. It's definitely in the affidavit - IIRC, it was Wednesday morning. She then washed the Tiguan and went to her LE appointment at noon (2 hours late).

jmo

 

[Hatfield]

A little bit of truth in every lie, and every lie is completely self-serving.

Exactly.

 

[DTPeke]

The return of the rental is in the affidavit. I did a timeline of all the times but don't have it handy. It's definitely in the affidavit - IIRC, it was Wednesday morning. She then washed the Tiguan and went to her LE appointment at noon (2 hours late).

jmo

That's a different rental, that is the white Kia Rio.

I am referencing the Silver Nissan Altima, rented by the aunt. LS used this car from Jan. 30th- Feb. 1st. The rental that LE placed the GPS tracker on.

 

[Inthedetails]

That's a different rental, that is the white Kia Rio.

I am referencing the Silver Nissan Altima, rented by the aunt. LS used this car from Jan. 30th- Feb. 1st. The rental that LE placed the GPS tracker on.

OOPS! Sorry about that!

That's a very good question!!

 

[MemPat]

Sort of. She tells lies to serve herself....but it doesn't actually work.

Not the brightest, is she.

jmo

Internet understatement of the day!

 

[Spartygirl]

LE somehow knew where to wait for her the day she was arrested.

I'm pretty sure she was under surveillance and they knew exactly where she was.
Plus tapping her phone.

 

[Hatfield]

Speaking of the way she sometimes puts pieces of truth in some of her lies, I've been wondering about one of them in particular.

JMO
In the AA #87 where she says Eguardo throws Gannon across the room, I am wondering if maybe she was the one who threw him across the room and into a wall. This could have been the thing that started it all after she got mad at him.

Maybe he got a nose bleed and internal injuries from being slammed into a wall.
The blood found in his bedroom may have been from an incident like this.

I guess we will never know for sure until details come out at trial.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Reportedly, LS collected AS at the CSpgs airport on Tuesday morning around 8:50AM. According to the AA, investigators believe LS drove her VW to the airport with GS body inside her car, and left the VW parked there until late night.

LS and AS drove home in a vehicle (Rio) that LS rented at the airport. (LS alleged she was worried about the mileage on the leased VW but only drove the rental about 70 miles before returning it on Weds).

(I believe HH drove LS to collect the VW Tues night but I don't recall where she left the VW before retrieving it to drive to EPC Sheriff's office around noon Wednesday).

I believe LS Aunt had rented a Nissan that LS started driving after the VW was impounded for evidence collection by EPCS.

I don't recall if cadaver dogs were ever used to search any of the vehicles or inside the house-- if so, I don't think the results ever made public.

If being logical - it follows that LS murdered GS inside the basement but on the other hand, I get the feeling that she inflicted more violence on this child than she could do inside the residence (without being heard) which leaves me wondering if she critically wounded GS in his bed but finished him off after getting him in her car and driving elsewhere.

MOO

I need to ask a question about something that I don’t remember ever seeing addressed before. So Gannon disappeared (was killed) on Monday. On Tuesday LS goes to the airport, leaves her vehicle, gets a rental and picks up AS.

When they arrived home why did she immediately leave? It seems to me that AS would have wanted her there all night going over and over her story and the timeline. It also seems that she would be there trying to be supportive for AS and telling her story repeatedly to make herself believable. Now I realize that anything and everything she would have said would have been a lie. But I thought at that time that AS and LH trusted her. So they would automatically be begging her to help them find their boy.

To me there is some kind of disconnect in the story or timeline. All I can come up with is on the way home from the airport, LS and AS got into a huge fight about LH staying at their home and LS tells him she is not staying there too. If so, that would be a huge red flag to me that she doesn’t care about my son because she is putting her feelings first.

Or maybe they had already decided before he left town that they were getting a divorce. Maybe that was part of her reason to kill Gannon because she blamed the kids.

I would love to read thoughts of everyone.

 

[Seattle1]

I'm pretty sure she was under surveillance and they knew exactly where she was.
Plus tapping her phone.

I agree -- FBI never let LS out of their site. I'm also not convinced that LS was responsible for dropping the suitcase in Florida. If so, I think she most likely left her phone/gps in NC.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Speaking of the way she sometimes puts pieces of truth in some of her lies, I've been wondering about one of them in particular.

JMO
In the AA #87 where she says Eguardo throws Gannon across the room and into a wall, I am wondering if maybe she was the one who threw him into a wall.
This could have been the thing that started it all after she got mad at him.

Maybe he got a nose bleed and internal injuries from being slammed into a wall.
The blood found in his bedroom may have been from an incident like this.

I guess we will never know for sure until details come out at trial.

With the amount of blood found soaked in the mattress, I think she would have had to slam him a few times against the wall. But I can imagine her doing just that. Even hitting him with her fists.

 

[Inthedetails]

Speaking of the way she sometimes puts pieces of truth in some of her lies, I've been wondering about one of them in particular.

JMO
In the AA #87 where she says Eguardo throws Gannon across the room and into a wall, I am wondering if maybe she was the one who threw him into a wall.
This could have been the thing that started it all after she got mad at him.

Maybe he got a nose bleed and internal injuries from being slammed into a wall.
The blood found in his bedroom may have been from an incident like this.

I guess we will never know for sure until details come out at trial.

That's exactly what I think. She threw him against the wall, probably at the start of the assault.


jmo

 

[Spartygirl]

The prosecutors he “advised” must have been desperate for evidence or something.

My guess is they were NOT desperate at all and did not ask for his advise.
He just bluntly told/advised them all by himself LOL
JMO

 

[kkdj]

I wonder if she started beating Gannon and he fought back. That might have really made her go nuts!
Or, Gannon discovered something (or someone) he shouldn't have.
Or, the torture and murder of Gannon was done out of revenge.
Any thoughts?

 

[Inthedetails]

My guess is they were NOT desperate at all and did not ask for his advise.
He just bluntly told/advised them all by himself LOL
JMO

I post on WS. Sometimes LE reads WS. Therefore, I advise LE.

LOL.

My guess his claimed "advising" is about as valid mine.

jmo

 

[Angels27]

MOO LE didn’t want to announce he was deceased until they were ready to charge LS. No point in it. I think his poor mother and father were well aware the chance he was still alive were almost zero. The crime lab was at the house 5 times, Dan May made 2 trips to the home. Gannon’s parents were still staying in house when the blood evidence was found. I’m sure Gannon’s parents looked all over the inside of the home too. just MOO. I pray for them everyday.

Did they ever bring cadaver dogs into house? And if so, when?

 

[Seattle1]

I need to ask a question about something that I don’t remember ever seeing addressed before. So Gannon disappeared (was killed) on Monday. On Tuesday LS goes to the airport, leaves her vehicle, gets a rental and picks up AS.

When they arrived home why did she immediately leave? It seems to me that AS would have wanted her there all night going over and over her story and the timeline. It also seems that she would be there trying to be supportive for AS and telling her story repeatedly to make herself believable. Now I realize that anything and everything she would have said would have been a lie. But I thought at that time that AS and LH trusted her. So they would automatically be begging her to help them find their boy.

To me there is some kind of disconnect in the story or timeline. All I can come up with is on the way home from the airport, LS and AS got into a huge fight about LH staying at their home and LS tells him she is not staying there too. If so, that would be a huge red flag to me that she doesn’t care about my son because she is putting her feelings first.

Or maybe they had already decided before he left town that they were getting a divorce. Maybe that was part of her reason to kill Gannon because she blamed the kids.

I would love to read thoughts of everyone.

I understood that LS rented the Rio on the pretense that she was going to drive around looking for GS -- stating that it would be best for her to be driving a vehicle that he did not recognize -- fearful of getting in trouble. (And she added the excuse about not wanting to add mileage to the leased VW for an extra touch of LS drama).

Although we did not know for certain, LS certainly knew GS was dead and where she stashed his lifeless body long before she collected AS from the airport.

Guilty, I can't imagine LS wanting to be anywhere near AS or LH (that were truly worried, anxious, distraught) knowing they'd confront her with crucial questions that she could not answer or catch her in more lies. No way was LS going to give them that chance! For example, investigators reported that LS never went to any of the neighbors to inquire about GS or whether or not he'd been seen. LS did not call any of his friends. LS did nothing that a prudent parent of a missing child would do.

IMO, the disconnect was that LS had just killed their child yet she was also put out that her archenemy was crying and pacing in her own home together with her husband!

On the other hand, if GS had disappeared through no fault of LS, I don't doubt that we would have found LS side by side GS parents-- trying to get on TV, set up a command post, organize searches, etc-- all for the attention, praise, and adulation that LS desperately craves.

Instead, LS immediately went to CYA mode, defending herself before it was necessary.

And worst of all, she clearly took gaslighting LH up a few notches in reaction to her own guilt and evil act.

MOO

 

[Pavelsky]

Can't come soon enough! IMO

 

[Angels27]

What are the odds the trial will be moved to another county? And when would the defense request that?

 

[MassGuy]

My guess is they were NOT desperate at all and did not ask for his advise.
He just bluntly told/advised them all by himself LOL
JMO

Yes.

He has sat in on many high-profile court cases and has occasionally advised criminal prosecutors during court cases on an extemporary basis.

Every time I revisit this quote, I laugh so hard I cry.

I imagine it goes like this:

Mr. Bestselling Author: “I think you should object more.”

Prosecutor: “Who the hell are you, and why are you giving me advice?”