Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #12

[jimprobable]

LOL
MOO My Own Opinion also JMO Just My Opinion

Thank you "Kyte," for your explanation.

 

[Murphy1950]

Will someone please explain to me (and to others also wondering) for what this acronym "MOO" I keep seeing in this forum stands. I assume the initialism is not some bovine reference. I've gotten most of the other relevant initialisms (AS, GS, LE, LS/SM, etc.). But I'm still out in the pasture about this "MOO" business. Thank you.

MOO = My Own Opinion /My Opinion Only

I keep this thread (below) which is the lingo bookmarked in my “watched threads.” It hasn’t’ changed in ages so you won’t get activities notices but you can also see in your “watched threads”…all the threads you have bookmarked and open them up



Websleuths Lingo

 

[Kellsestxx]

KathrynL, I read your post and it brought tears to my eyes,as it brought home to me a very painful memory and experience. Thank you for you being honest and sharing it with us. You are a amazing person and Mom.
I know and liked how people opinions in looking at this case.
Everyone love and hope for Gannon shines through your words on every thread.

Forgive me for not expressing my thoughts and opinions of the Step Mother, I admit, IMO her words and actions are questionable but I cannot judge I will leave it for the law enforces to collect evidence for when you have been placed in in a such a situation you cannot make judgement without evidence.
In my past and personal experience(Welfare Child,long story) when I was 11 years of age for a period of 18 months I was accused of a crime I did not commit, last years I manage to get my Welfare files and of the incident and it was badly handled.
I was in a Children Homes in 1979, new House Mother kicked me out,after she finished slapping and punching me all to the fact I caught a young boy going through my things, I grabbed his arm and shoved him out of my room,through the punches I find out it is her son. Removed to another Children home, there only three weeks, as she informs them/Welfare she is filing charges , I was removed to Remand Center for five weeks......waiting impending charges nonething happens no police interveiws no Children court no body asks me any questions during this time I had no idea what is going on. Welfare transferes me to a Girls Detention Center for accessment, I am there over 14 months before the matter is dropped I am released two days before my 13th birthday
(What I witnessed in the Girls Remand Center I gave an Account to Royal Commission 4 years ago and Redress 10 years).
What I found in my Welfare files was the former House Mother gave Six different stories,no evidence, vague details no name.time or place where it happened, all these statement were given house mother refused to sign statements.
This dragged out for 14 months before someone finally contact the police to investigate suddenly the matter was dropped.
I am not the only Welfare Child this has happened too.

Wishing and praying for Gannon to be found soon.

I'm so sorry that happened to you. Thank you for sharing such a personal story. We are quick to judge sometimes, I agree.

 

[Bravo]

Thank You shadow for your post. I am so very sorry you were subjected to a broken system and painful childhood.

 

[jimprobable]

My opinion only
Eta: or My only opinion
Take your pick. lol I had to smile at the bovine.

Thank you "imstilla.grandma," for your help.

 

[Bravo]

I only judge when people give me a reason to. This is a little boy. Missing and Stepmother has not been any help to LE or shown any care or concern for a gut wrenching experience. IMO

 

[gsleuth]

I think the OP may mean that LE is not disputing the neighbors account of what happened, which is that Gannon did not return with TS.

But you are right that they did not use those particular words. It wasn't in quotations so it was probably an interpretation of what LE said. Jmo

''they did not use those particular words.''
Correct..thank you.

 

[sleepysleuth]

I really wish we had an update or something fresh to discuss.

 

[Clueless Cutie]

KathrynL, I read your post and it brought tears to my eyes,as it brought home to me a very painful memory and experience. Thank you for you being honest and sharing it with us. You are a amazing person and Mom.
I know and liked how people opinions in looking at this case.
Everyone love and hope for Gannon shines through your words on every thread.

Forgive me for not expressing my thoughts and opinions of the Step Mother, I admit, IMO her words and actions are questionable but I cannot judge I will leave it for the law enforces to collect evidence for when you have been placed in in a such a situation you cannot make judgement without evidence.
In my past and personal experience(Welfare Child,long story) when I was 11 years of age for a period of 18 months I was accused of a crime I did not commit, last years I manage to get my Welfare files and of the incident and it was badly handled.
I was in a Children Homes in 1979, new House Mother kicked me out,after she finished slapping and punching me all to the fact I caught a young boy going through my things, I grabbed his arm and shoved him out of my room,through the punches I find out it is her son. Removed to another Children home, there only three weeks, as she informs them/Welfare she is filing charges , I was removed to Remand Center for five weeks......waiting impending charges nonething happens no police interveiws no Children court no body asks me any questions during this time I had no idea what is going on. Welfare transferes me to a Girls Detention Center for accessment, I am there over 14 months before the matter is dropped I am released two days before my 13th birthday
(What I witnessed in the Girls Remand Center I gave an Account to Royal Commission 4 years ago and Redress 10 years).
What I found in my Welfare files was the former House Mother gave Six different stories,no evidence, vague details no name.time or place where it happened, all these statement were given house mother refused to sign statements.
This dragged out for 14 months before someone finally contact the police to investigate suddenly the matter was dropped.
I am not the only Welfare Child this has happened too.

Wishing and praying for Gannon to be found soon.

Step, bio, foster, adoptive - good ones exist and evil ones exist. It's not about the relationship to the child, it's about the heart of the individual. I'm sorry that you had to go through such a horrible experience. It's amazing, IMO, how the system quickly grants rights to people to be foster parents but drag out in time and expense for people who actually want to adopt.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Just don't put a shadow under the text.

jmopinion

and.... there goes the coffee out the nose ty..... tyvm

 

[Ray_of_hope]

This is dated yesterday, but I wonder if they found anything. LE reported that information led them to that site which is over 40 miles from Gannon's home.
"Midway through the day, a deputy asked cameras crews to station further down the road, away from the search efforts. That’s when Fox 31 watched crews start to physically dig into the snow and narrow in on one area."
Authorities narrow in on one area as search for Gannon Stauch continues

 

[Bravo]

In my mind if the neighbour was smart enough to backtrack video he was likely smart enough to view at great length following her arrival home. Especially before showing Dad and turning it over to LE. In my opinion.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

This is dated yesterday, but I wonder if they found anything. LE reported that information led them to that site which is over 40 miles from Gannon's home.
"Midway through the day, a deputy asked cameras crews to station further down the road, away from the search efforts. That’s when Fox 31 watched crews start to physically dig into the snow and narrow in on one area."
Authorities narrow in on one area as search for Gannon Stauch continues

They're continuing to search in same place today. Neighbors in Douglas County willing to help in the search for missing Gannon Stauch

 

[ChuckMaureen]

bbm

My issue with the video of the truck is that it looks a lil high up , so if G was there getting out of the passenger side I think we should see his lil feet jumping down not just a shadow. Or 1 foot at a time at least. You can clearly see under the truck to the other side on the ground. I looked and looked on a slowed down version of it on YouTube and the regular one too. I saw no feet.

It is possible that a foot is shown, just that it appears as a shadow since there was not much side-lighting and the video we are privy to is not first-generation quality (as in, we are viewing an original playback firsthand).

Also, the camera is positioned somewhat farther behind the back of the vehicle, creating an angle that positions the left rear tire slightly ahead of the horizontal plane of the rear passenger side door, obscuring an area where GS' smallish foot would place upon exiting the vehicle

Again, we photographers also regularly account for angles and perspectives while we frame subjects for photographing or video recording.

 

[Ontario Mom]

But that's not a "theory." If it's true that LE has concluded that the video shows the stepmother arriving at home without Gannon at 2:19, that part would be a fact. The THEORY part is why he can't have come home and left between 2:19 and 3:00-3:15 some other way (it appears that the father assumed that he could not have). If the stepmother doesn't have an answer for that, there's the problem, imo.

I never said anything about a theory, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Another user asked for a link to LE's version, so I provided it.
Folks are welcome to accept it, dissect it, pretend it doesn't mean what it says, play word salad with it, or reject it entirely.
I'm not interested in arguing about it.
I believe what LE had to say about it.

 

[squareandrabbet]

The first thing in any parent's brain should be, "Do I know this person well enough to trust him/her with my kid?" Then, they should not be subjecting the child(ren) to people they are dating until they have enough info and are sure that the person is going to stick around. Just yuk.

But it's all about the person they're dating, you see. More important to flatter the one who brings the sex with them, than it is to make your flesh and blood happy and content.

Frankly I'd be highly suspicious of any new partner that insisted on any particular statement classification at all. Whatever my friends' children choose to call me, I find adorable.

Nope. Not at all. I'm hinting that what she has told "us" through media interviews, statements, and (her own) released videos has changed. LE has indicated in televised updates that Gannon was reported as a runaway. Why did she report him as a runaway, providing evidence from Gannon's cell phone (can my parents track me if my cell phone is turned off?), then several days into the search say this:

"Last, from day one the Sheriff's office has known a description of the person/friend whom Gannon left with.

I explained to them and provided evidence. They had information about G having the key to go out the side gate. Last they have more in-depth details that go along with this pointing to who sent the person or why he may have come".
Exclusive: Gannon Stauch’s stepmother releases statement about boy’s disappearance

"who sent the person or why he may have come"

Translation: "Don't look over here! Look over there!"

This embellishment is as meaningless as the Ramsey's "small foreign faction".

IMO, MOO.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

bbm

My issue with the video of the truck is that it looks a lil high up , so if G was there getting out of the passenger side I think we should see his lil feet jumping down not just a shadow. Or 1 foot at a time at least. You can clearly see under the truck to the other side on the ground. I looked and looked on a slowed down version of it on YouTube and the regular one too. I saw no feet.

It is possible that a foot is shown, just that it appears as a shadow since there was not much side-lighting.

Also, the camera is positioned somewhat farther behind the back of the vehicle, creating an angle that positions the left rear tire slightly ahead of the horizontal plane of the rear passenger side door, obscuring an area where GS' smallish foot would place upon exiting the vehicle

Again, we photographers also regularly account for angles and perspectives while we frame subjects for photographing or video recording.

 

[Ontario Mom]

But that's not a "theory." If it's true that LE has concluded that the video shows the stepmother arriving at home without Gannon at 2:19, that part would be a fact. The THEORY part is why he can't have come home and left between 2:19 and 3:00-3:15 some other way (it appears that the father assumed that he could not have). If the stepmother doesn't have an answer for that, there's the problem, imo.

I never said anything about a theory, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Another user asked for a link to LE's version, so I provided it.
Folks are welcome to accept it, dissect it, pretend it doesn't mean what it says, play word salad with it, or reject it entirely.
I'm not interested in arguing about it.
I believe what LE had to say about it.

 

[JuneRose]

that is a article from yesterday the 15th.....do we know yet if they are out there today?

 

[jillycat]

Can we get past the issue of LE “not disputing” the content of the neighbor’s video? The police have consistently and repeatedly said they will not comment on the video and what’s in it because “it’s part of our investigation.” They can’t dispute what they’re not talking about it in the first place.

The media re-invents LE statements and it sounds like more than it is. Translation:
“We hammered on LE to discuss the video and they said “We’re not discussing that”, so we can conclude they didn’t dispute what's in it.” And entire pages on WS are born.

 

[stattlich1]

Those are not my words. You may have misdirected your question.

I'm sorry, no, I did not misdirect my question. The quote is mine, it is a question I asked you earlier, and I'd be interested in your reply. So, if Gannon did indeed exit the truck, then what do you theorize happened next.

thanks.