The rate at which these sorts of things is no different from years ago, the only difference is that back then most news was local whereas now it is national. All those cases you never heard of back then (because they were somewhere else in the country) you hear about now. So it seems like there is more, but not really.
A case like this, no matter how tragic, every two weeks still makes it a pretty rare occurrence. Something like a few dozen out of 45-60 million. Kids are far more likely to be killed in a motor car accident, or shot by someone they know, than be abducted and killed by a stranger.
It looks like this guy couldn't handle a grown woman, so he went after a little girl who he could grab and control because she was a lot smaller.
I've said this before on another thread :blushing: but I'll say it again....I agree with you on the points you made, particularly about the media. But there are some societies, modern societies, that do not and never had, this amount of violence, especially against children. Which is why I think it's cultural, social in nature. I've lived in three different "cultures" and the rates are simply different. Individualism, I guess is the main word.
It's a very sad day that an 11 or 12 year old cannot go out and walk to school, ride a bike etc. But fear is what these monsters want to instill in all of us and I for one, would not give in to it. After Gardner attacked Chelsea King in San Diego, the running groups in San Diego made pacts that we were not going to allow monsters like him from stopping what we love to do, because then we are giving them exactly what they want.
Sorry for the rambling, I have so many thoughts about this case but in the end, I just want this piece of scum caught.
The way that guy was knocked to the ground by the woman kind of leads me to believe the attempted abductor was a pretty young guy. He looks awfully skinny and extremely weak.
I'm not Cashew but I read about this here on WS. It was originally thought to be a child's body but later was identified with a missing woman, Janine Ann Johler, 38. She was physically handicapped and in a very abusive relationship. IIRC her husband is in prison for her murder.
ok..just catching up.....re someone saying about it being unusual to go from a woman to a girl in the last thread, that was me asking longtimers here if they had seen it before, because I hadnt while on here....
I think he has had the urges for a while and maybe passed Jessica walking alone and couldnt resist a female walking alone...I think it was just too easy for him. What is scary is, has he now crossed over to murder after attempted abductions.....I wonder if the woman in May was his first or if he has raped other women?? Are there any other unsolved murders of women in that general area?.........I also think the police know a lot more than us by only saying that the two are linked and nothing more. I hope they catch this guy now that he has crossed the line.......a serial in the making for sure...
Video and article. Ketner lake incident on Memorial Day.
Jogger escapes from attempted kidnapping near Westminster lake
May 30, 2012
http://kdvr.com/2012/05/30/jogger-escapes-from-attempted-kidnapping-near-westminster-lake/
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With this guy, it would probably be one of the parents waiting for the kids that disappeared. I think they should reinstate free school bus service in that area until the guy is caught.
OT- they found a body in NJ believed to be the little girl, Autumn...
I assume there is a reward in this case? The reason I am asking is I have not heard about it. Maybe if the media gets into covering that there is a reward then someone might turn their friend or family member in? JMO
I've said this before on another thread :blushing: but I'll say it again....
when I was a kid we rode bikes around the neighborhood. We walked to friends houses and played outside until dark. We even slept in tents in the backyard.
But something horrific happened by the time my children were born. I became aware of pedophiles and other awful crimes against children. I watched my children like a hawk.
It disturbs me to no end that children can't do normal things outside because of possibly being kidnapped, raped or killed.
:moo:
You have a choice about whether your child plays outside. Or whether they walk to a friend's house alone.
I know! I watch my grandchildren like that. Love your daughter wearing her Rapunzel dress. I bought my granddaughters fairy dresses to wear whenever.Yeah, we would be out sometimes after dark. My brother was 7 and I was 10 and we'd be out with all the neighbor kids playing 'ghosts in the graveyard.' Not my kid. My just turned yesterday five year old is craving more independence. I don't want her to cross the street without holding my hands. I do watch people more and I hate to discourage her from talking to people but she is sometimes too friendly. You just never know. Although I do know if I was back in San Diego, I would be a lot more afraid. Here it's very common for people - old ladies and younger men- to say oh what a nice dress or something in passing - completely harmless. Yesterday my daughter wore around the city - train, aquarium, restaurant, etc. - her princess Rapunzel dress and many people were coming up to her striking up conversation. I just always keep in the back of my head little pumpkins like Jessica Ridgeway and Samantha Runnion.
LOL don't worry about it. Just responding to a comment who responded to a comment...no biggie. :floorlaugh:
I've said this before on another thread :blushing: but I'll say it again....
when I was a kid we rode bikes around the neighborhood. We walked to friends houses and played outside until dark. We even slept in tents in the backyard.
But something horrific happened by the time my children were born. I became aware of pedophiles and other awful crimes against children. I watched my children like a hawk.
It disturbs me to no end that children can't do normal things outside because of possibly being kidnapped, raped or killed.
:moo:
Anyway, shame on those who think they are "in the know" and are leaking information to friends or the press, even if it is seemingly solid fact. I firmly believe that it is LE's right to withhold information so as not to tip off a perp. They also keep some information out of the public eye in order to strengthen their case once an arrest is made - getting all their ducks in a row as it were. Asking for info about something like the cross doesn't mean they have no clue - I believe they want as much confirmation from as many different witnesses as possible, about even the smallest details, to absolutely nail this guy!