That's funny, I put surgical gloves on when cleaning in part because it makes the bags easier to open.
As for chloroform or any other inhalant anesthesia, the speed depends in good part on the bodyweight of the victim. In medical practice, they use some type of IV to induce anesthesia for patients over around 80 pounds because it just takes too long for an inhalant anesthesia to work.
Having been the unlucky subject of a gas-only anesthesia (hate, hate, hate teaching hospitals), it's terrifying to go through. It felt like drowning on dry land. I could still breath but I felt like I was smothering.
Doesn't surprise me that the chemical soaked rag was not particularly successful with adult women.
I think the bar attempt was a copycat and probably two or more drunk idjits egging each other on. Those perps tried it in plain sight of a bunch of people whereas the Ketner Lake suspect made his attempt without witnesses.
