dgfred
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Arrest me too- I'm stopping on the way home. This is going to be dinner
Thanks for letting us know... we will keep track of you just in case.
Arrest me too- I'm stopping on the way home. This is going to be dinner
Has there been any suggestion that they are not good people?Just to play Devil's advocate. Knowing what he may know about her family he may not want to let them near the baby in light of KB's disappearance. Just food for thought.
Are you talking about the one from Kelsey's aunt? I don't think that's allowed for a couple of reasons, one being that we don't know for sure that it's really Kelsey's aunt, and I'll have to reread the TOS, but I don't think we can discuss rumors. I would avoid it to be on the safe side.Are screenshots allowed here? They have since been deleted but were on the public KRDO Facebook page.
That just adds to the 'no danger' to the public statement... which doesn't 'add' up.Another thing that I find odd about this case is that there have been no organized searches. Did I miss something? Is it because people have no idea where to begin searching?
Just to play Devil's advocate. Knowing what he may know about her family he may not want to let them near the baby in light of KB's disappearance. Just food for thought.
Has there been any suggestion that they are not good people?
I call BS. We all knew about the press conference a day ahead of time. Do you mean to tell me that PF's fiance' is missing and he's not even watching the news? Pfft...Statement from PF's attorneys:
@KristinHaubrich
The fiancé of missing Woodland Park mother, Kelsey Berreth, has retained an attorney in Colorado Springs. The Law Office of Jeremy Lowe just released this statement on behalf of Patrick Frazee:
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I think this was probably a breakup fight. Perhaps she threatened to take the baby away from him. He could have lost his temper and did something to her. I think he has gotten very attached to the baby since he took care of her while mom worked and thinks of the baby as a possession. It would be interesting to know if he was the possessive and/or controlling type. I think they both were "religious" and posed as not living together but stayed the night together frequently. This is my own opinion.
What would her family do to the baby?
What would he know about her family that makes him keep the baby away?
My daughter is 28 and it does feel awkward (just a little) having your not-married 'little girl' having a BF sleep over. I am open-minded anyway and as long as she is happy I am happy so it is no big deal at all... but it does feel weird when you think about it as a dad/mom.
Can't help it.
I definitely think it was planned out ahead of time, no matter who or what is responsible for KB's disappearance. There's no obvious crime scene, no real clues, and no sightings of KB (that I know of)...it seems too neat to have been a spur-of-the-moment thing or crime of opportunity. JMO.
This is the biggest for me. I tell everyone to lawyer up the minute they think they’re under suspicion, I would expect the SO of a missing person to retain one. But not seeing her, not reaching out to her during that time, not calling her family to see if they had heard from her...there is no urgency at all. I would be frantic if my husband disappeared for a day.
As it appears her family has more reason to be distrustful of him. I didn't get the idea that they wanted to take the baby, just see her.Just floating the possibilities that there may be family issues that are not public knowledge, and he may be distrusting of her family.
And unless you are an hour away.. even if you had short notice you would be there.I call BS. We all knew about the press conference a day ahead of time. Do you mean to tell me that PF's fiance' is missing and he's not even watching the news? Pfft...
MOO
To any sleuthers with LE background, what gives LE grounds to search a residence? Ie. I’m assuming they have not searched PF’s residence because they do not have probable cause? Do you think they’ve already asked for permission to search, and were denied? I would think just the fact she wasn’t reported missing by fiancé is cause enough for a search? But I’m no expert. MOO
Did fiancé ever comment on what text from Kelsey on 25th said??
I have emailed the Woodland Park Police Dept to see if they can clarify what the mother said in the news conference in regards to what Kelsey likes. Did she say Kelsey likes her dog, likes her God, or what? When I listened to the conference it sounded to me as if she said she likes to (two?) dodge. I also thought she might have said she likes to jog. I have just read a story from the Bonner County Daily Bee (Idaho) in which it states she likes running and hiking so that is a possibility. Now I think she either said she likes two dogs or she like to jog. I will post the Bonner County article soon as it is not very old.
I hope an attorney will weigh in here about CO child custody laws. In many states, an unmarried mother has full custody. The father has to go to court and establish parentage and a parenting plan but taking away full custody from a working mother who isn't unfit would be very, very difficult. JMO