CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #27 *ARREST*

[Hopefullyhelpful]

@PommyMommy and @v0x ... just read the original report from CrimeOnline posted earlier.... all corrections have been made. WS is amazing....I am a tadpole in the big pond of sleuthers...... but from what I have seen happen here on WS.... I truly believe reporters from all over the world come to WS's to find "the lead". Kudos to all of you!

I don’t want to be contrary here, but how can reporters come here for leads if we aren’t allowed to sleuth anything that isn’t already reported on by MSM or LE?

 

[Snow Flower]

I bet she found PF attractive. I’ve seen less attractive men, believe me......imo, they are less attractive.
Many men & women have multiple love interests.
Or, a relationship deteriorates but a scorned woman might not realize her cowboy rode off.....

If I saw PF somewhere, and not knowing what we know now, I would find him attractive. He isn’t ugly by a long shot. JMO.

 

[Trudie]

I have just wondered if perhaps IN wasn't the instigator of this crime. She put the idea in PF's head to get rid of KB. And PF solicited someone else to do it. Or a couple people. And one of those people is the source of information to LE, not IN (who I think may NOT be cooperating with LE, at least not fully).

Ita. Tick tock......so goes the clock. I’m speculating she has inserted foot in mouth, more than once.
No link, moo.

 

[OldLadyBlues]

And how many perfect crimes have you known? The LE ALWAYS figures it out!

 

[BRRI]

I have just wondered if perhaps IN wasn't the instigator of this crime. She put the idea in PF's head to get rid of KB. And PF solicited someone else to do it. Or a couple people. And one of those people is the source of information to LE, not IN (who I think may NOT be cooperating with LE, at least not fully).

I agree

 

[Trudie]

I don’t want to be contrary here, but how can reporters come here for leads if we aren’t allowed to sleuth anything that isn’t already reported on by MSM or LE?

Lol, really. We get our info from them. The rest is speculation, imo.

 

[Snow Flower]

I don’t want to be contrary here, but how can reporters come here for leads if we aren’t allowed to sleuth anything that isn’t already reported on by MSM or LE?

They do and in some cases so does LE and their defense team. I have seen it in other cases. So does their family members.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

I bet she found PF attractive. I’ve seen less attractive men, believe me......imo, they are less attractive.
Many men & women have multiple love interests.
Or, a relationship deteriorates but a scorned woman might not realize her cowboy rode off.....

I'm not talking looks here. I'm talking his treatment of animals, failure to launch, tipping horse trailer.

 

[OldLadyBlues]

Ita. Tick tock......so goes the clock. I’m speculating she has inserted foot in mouth, more than once.
No link, moo.

I speculate she is choking on the amount of footage in her mouth, Trudie!

 

[MyBelle]

True. That’s a hell of an ask.

He must have believed that she would be open to the idea.

Sounds like the third time was the charm. A significant part of the crime/cover-up has been the ping/texts from Idaho. JMO

 

[The Night Watchman]

Yes, I need to not get ahead of myself since there is only one report. This just seems like more than a “typo” kind of report. But it’s definitely possible that it’s misinformation.

BTW, the part about being a former teacher was regarding me. Unless you have also read KK was a former teacher too? I’m going to really hope that’s not the case. I can only take so much...

BBM

Agree. I have been so wrapped up with speculating about this new information- that all three solicitation charges are with KK; I kinda forgot that it hasn't been verified anywhere else.

Could easily be an overzealous report, ala the "KK helped dispose of the body" MSM report (retracted).

Hoping the information gets backed up somewhere reputable.

 

[BRRI]

I bet she found PF attractive. I’ve seen less attractive men, believe me......imo, they are less attractive.
Many men & women have multiple love interests.
Or, a relationship deteriorates but a scorned woman might not realize her cowboy rode off.....

For what it’s worth, look wise alone, I don’t think PF is a bad looking guy. I wouldn’t see someone who looked like him walking down the street and think “wow he’s hideous”. I could see the initial draw both KB and KK likely had to him.

 

[allboys]

I buy it, as I thought it was possible all along.

I couldn’t believe that she unknowingly transported, texted, and dumped Kelsey’s phone, and was ignorant of what she was helping with.

She had to have known, and the fact that she was apparently solicited, makes this all fit.

She knew.

I agree. I had definitely already bought into the idea KK was most likely aware of what was going to happen to KB and aware of what did happen to KB. Which is full of horror in itself.

But there is something about knowing she was asked to do the deed HERSELF, that seems extra unimaginable. Even if it was “do this WITH me.” What on Earth did PF tell this woman as means to justify this ask??? As means to justify that KB deserved this???

 

[Mountain Misst]

I don’t want to be contrary here, but how can reporters come here for leads if we aren’t allowed to sleuth anything that isn’t already reported on by MSM or LE?

Verified insiders for a start - they have information that MSM doesn't have.

 

[Hopefullyhelpful]

They do and in some cases so does LE and their defense team. I have seen it in other cases. So does their family members.

Well if that’s the case, I hope something dawns on them soon and they start chasing some rabbits. MOO

 

[Nudgee]

I don’t want to be contrary here, but how can reporters come here for leads if we aren’t allowed to sleuth anything that isn’t already reported on by MSM or LE?

Maybe saying “leads” was the wrong wording.... but there was an earlier report from a CrimeOnline reporter mentioning a nurse being solicited ... in that report, the reported had some major errors in names.... it was brought to the attention here on WS’s...reporter made all corrections to the report! Again, “leads” may have been the wrong word on my behalf.... maybe I should have said they are paying attention!

 

[InvSmith]

This is not specific to the individuals in this case but acts of crime (major and violent crime), particularly the first known one typically reveals a pattern of thinking, problem-solving, relationship conflict skills, etc. that demonstrated deficiencies throughout a person's life. The arrest may be the first one but you generally look back and see a pattern of behavior such as exaggerated self-interest/promotion, dual-relationships, manipulation, etc. You could also be looking at applied pressure to perform such requests as well.

 

[Marli61]

Yes....I said “certain”.

Oops.. yes you did. At work speed reading. My apologies!

 

[Trudie]

For what it’s worth, look wise alone, I don’t think PF is a bad looking guy. I wouldn’t see someone who looked like him walking down the street and think “wow he’s hideous”. I could see the initial draw both KB and KK likely had to him.

I wouldn’t run from him. Actually, in my experience, a cowboy can be quite charming. Most treat women with respect. Idk how he treated KB or KK.
As far as comments & video regarding animals, I am speculating every horse owner has had a farrier thump his horse to square him up. Tapping or punching a horse is not like punching a baby or a kitten, horses are huge & can kill a person, easily. Jmo, of course.
Iirc, one person claiming PF rasped her horse said “it was one of the last times he worked for her”, if he was so violent, why was it one of the last times & not the last. Did anyone turn him in to LE for abusing animals?
My hairdresser is voted best every year in my town, bet you could find gals going to a competitor to bad mouth her. Jmo
Any person performing services is apt to have complaints. IMO.

 

[Kapua]

Yes, I need to not get ahead of myself since there is only one report. This just seems like more than a “typo” kind of report. But it’s definitely possible that it’s misinformation.

BTW, the part about being a former teacher was regarding me. Unless you have also read KK was a former teacher too? I’m going to really hope that’s not the case. I can only take so much...

No, I misread. Scratch former teacher and go with mother and nurse, then.

Trying to imagine how the conversation might have gone. "Say, KKL, I'm thinking that the thing to do is kill KB." What woman in her right mind wouldn't be terrified to think that their friend/lover/whatever is a homicidal maniac? I'd be petrified. MOO