CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #34 *ARREST*

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While it was not specified what evidence they had processed, it has been speculated in local media outlets that the department was referring to Kelsey's phone. It is a theory that has some credence considering the fact it was in a tower in Gooding, Idaho, where her cell phone pinged off last.
 
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Would the evidence they were collecting about or from KL have been released to the defense team before they actually laid charges against her? Or because it was an ongoing investigation they didn't have to pass it on to defense until they laid charges against her?

Just wondering if waiting til to charge her until the just before his prelim hearing was a way of slowing down passing some evidence on? Not sure why they would do that or what benefit it would have to them?
 
Remember, she has licenses in multiple states. We will have to check those. It is a common strategy to try to get your license in a different combination of your name transfered before the poop hits the fan.
She has licences in multiple states? What other states is KK (KL) licensed in?
 
Wow. I thought it would be Accessory after the fact. I guess LE believes her story, and they have found no evidence that shows she was involved other than getting rid of the phone. Imo

I am sure they would have had enough evidence to charge with accessory after the fact but if it is a plea deal they have to drop it down- so I doubt it is about LE believing her story re being a victim.

It was more likely we have enough to charge you with accessory to, but if you can provide us with enough information and evidence we will drop it down to a class 6 felony.
 
Remember, she has licenses in multiple states. We will have to check those. It is a common strategy to try to get your license in a different combination of your name transfered before the poop hits the fan.
ARgh. That was a mistake one of the news agencies made. She does not have a license in CO. There are two KL's, one in CO and one in ID. A news agency found another KL in CO as well and jumped on the rumor that it was the same woman, but it isn't. The KL in ID has a different middle name, birthdate, date of graduation and path to getting RN.
Just wanted to add, that both CO and ID are part of the NLC, in other words you don't need to have licenses in both states because they have reciprocity.

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I wonder what he is thinking? Is the tampering with evidence based on her taking the cell phone to get rid of it? It doesn't sound like it is going to be based on sending the text messages. (based on Nov 24 tampering, Nov 25 texts sent) It will be interesting to see
Maybe her tampering with evidence on the 24th was that she deleted info. on KB’s phone on that date?

ETA: Now I see @Auntie Cipation was already thinking the same thing...
 
He doesn’t have to but it’s customary to, just out of respect.
I think this DA would do that, he seems like the consummate professional. Even so, this has to sting for the Berreth family. Knowing that KK had been aware for at least a few months that PF wanted their daughter, the mother of his child, dead is overwhelming I'm sure. It might have been avoided all together if she'd just said something to KB. Gawd, I loathe her as much as PF!

@riolove77 @gitana1 I hope they nail his sorry azz in the Civil Trial too and was wondering if KK could face any liability with the civil case? Thanks for both being on and providing such awesome information btw. :)
 
MOO - I've said that all along. Which fits right in with her reported where-abouts (Sonic) and the proximity to the Condo.....all the pieces are there. And sorry, but destroying evidence only? I'm not buying it. Poor little scared rodeo queen ******** doesn't work on me. MOO
yes..and then go eat
so gross
 
I think this DA would do that, he seems like the consummate professional. Even so, this has to sting for the Berreth family. Knowing that KK had been aware for at least a few months that PF wanted their daughter, the mother of his child, dead is overwhelming I'm sure. It might have been avoided all together if she'd just said something to KB. Gawd, I loathe her as much as PF!

@riolove77 @gitana1 I hope they nail his sorry azz in the Civil Trial too and was wondering if KK could face any liability with the civil case? Thanks for both being on and providing such awesome information btw. :)
OOOH! wouldn't that be good if they could also file a civil suit against KK.
 
I think this DA would do that, he seems like the consummate professional. Even so, this has to sting for the Berreth family. Knowing that KK had been aware for at least a few months that PF wanted their daughter, the mother of his child, dead is overwhelming I'm sure. It might have been avoided all together if she'd just said something to KB. Gawd, I loathe her as much as PF!

@riolove77 @gitana1 I hope they nail his sorry azz in the Civil Trial too and was wondering if KK could face any liability with the civil case? Thanks for both being on and providing such awesome information btw. :)

bbm Great question, I sure hope SO!!
 
Why can’t the FBI get a statement without a plea deal? If she is guilty, charge her. If PF is guilty, get the evidence and charge him. Not a fan of plea deals.

They can't charge PF without solid evidence. KK may hold the key to that solid evidence with her knowledge and testimony. She is not going to spill the precious beans without a plea deal in place. Why would she?

IF he is the actual murderer, and the one who planned the murder, than I would rather give her the plea deal, and lock him up forever. JMO
 
Why not? None of us know the nature of the interactions between her and PF. We really know practically nothing. I guess I just don’t understand the degree of venom that so many are directing toward this person that we haven’t even heard from yet. And to do it with such certainty. And it absolutely can be compared to a witchhunt, because those people in Salem were in a lot of cases guilty of something or other, but not something worth dying for.
I agree that we know very little, yet many express firm statements about the punishment KK deserves. At least WS isn’t at risk of groupthink since people aren’t holding back opinions that go against what others think.

I didn’t feel as happy as I thought I would this morning when I saw the news about KK and a plea deal. But I felt relief. Relief that there is movement and KK is providing important info to get closer to the truth. And that LE works this case with integrity and thoroughness.

But not happy because no matter what, KB is dead, PF is most likely a psychopath and if let out I believe he would kill again.

And at best KK was a victim of PFs abuse and she never had the intent or desire to kill KB. And the ultimate final step in PFs psychological control was to force KK to violate her own moral principles, and commit a devastating crime. Have seen that exact thing in clinical cases of abusive relationships. Tragic.

At worst, KK had the intent to murder KB to have blessed future with PF. Not only bad moral judgements but malicious and criminal intent and actions. Tragic.

My belief is that until I know more, KK isn’t a terrible person, but she did something terrible. But I have been accused of giving too much benefit of the doubt before...
 
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I am sure they would have had enough evidence to charge with accessory after the fact but if it is a plea deal they have to drop it down- so I doubt it is about LE believing her story re being a victim.

It was more likely we have enough to charge you with accessory to, but if you can provide us with enough information and evidence we will drop it down to a class 6 felony.
Yes, I was thinking that they believe that she was not involved in the actual murder, not that she is a victim.
I'm guessing that they had enough evidence to charge her with Accessory to Murder, or at least After the Fact. I'm just surprised that the charge is tampering with evidence.
I doubt very much they think she is a victim. Imo
 
Can you even IMAGINE the trust issues one might have if she was able to retain her license? OMG
I don't see how she could keep her license if she were convicted of crime related to murder, but I am not a nurse so I don't know. I do know if she waltzed into my room to perform any nursing duties, I'd be screaming bloody murder and goodness knows what else I might be tempted to do. :eek:

Haa! This coming from a completely non violent person IRL.;)
 
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