CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #47 *ARREST*

[steeltowngirl]

Here we go. Poor Sheila, and I’m not talking about PF’s mommy.

The District Attorney's Office just confirmed to News 5 that the Facebook post believed to be posted by Patrick Frazee's mom, Sheila, was in fact posted by someone else. It is *not* Sheila Frazee's account. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney


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Did they say if it was a hacked and fake post? Fake account? Or a real person and weird coincidence aka someone just happened to be watching the Wizard of Oz...

 

[Mom24]

Did they execute a search warrant for KB's PO box? I didn't notice one and that would seem odd.

 

[ilovechili]

I saw the creepiest thing ever awhile back, parents who keep their kids baby teeth and put them in a rag doll, as part of the mouth. It was beyond weird. To me.

Are you kidding me?? Not just weird to you, add me to that list. That is sick, I am sorry. I try not to judge but that one is beyond me.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Kelsey Berreth case search warrants released
The documents contain some peculiarities that police looked into while investigating Berreth’s disappearance.

According to the warrant police obtained to search the home Frazee and his mother shared in Florissant in mid-December, supporting documentation for the warrant application showed that Woodland Park police received a Facebook message of a screen shot of a post made by a woman named Sheila McCorkle-Frazee at 4:36 p.m. on Nov. 22 that shows a picture of Glinda from “The Wizard of Oz” and says, “YAY the witch is dead”.

ABC News reports that Sheila McCorkle-Frazee is not Frazee’s mother, but a different person entirely. Frazee’s mother is also named Sheila Frazee.

Police wrote in the warrant just after the screen shot: “There have been several inconsistencies between the information that Patrick initially gave officers and information obtained during the investigation.”

Frazee’s arrest affidavit showed that Berreth was last seen alive when she was captured on surveillance cameras at the Woodland Park Safeway with her daughter at 12:27 p.m. on Nov. 22, and that investigators believe Frazee killed Berreth inside her apartment before 3:30 p.m. that day, according to the warrant.

The same warrant for the search of the Frazee home in Florissant shows that investigators recovered a “floral fitted sheet with possible blood” and five teeth – four in one envelope and another separately. They were among 67 items seized during the search.

Thanks Pommy. Appreciate you so much!

 

[MassGuy]

Did they say if it was a hacked and fake post? Fake account? Or a real person and weird coincidence aka someone just happened to be watching the Wizard of Oz...

Different person, same name, who just happened to make a post about the Wizard of Oz, just hours after Kelsey was likely killed.

Crazy coincidence, but one that I was aware of early on.

That’s why I was so fired up when I saw it in the search warrant, as it hadn’t been redacted.

I knew it would set off a firestorm of misinformation.

 

[ilovechili]

Agreed. But wouldn’t parents keep baby teeth and not adult teeth? And wouldn’t an adult child think their parents were weird if they asked for a tooth?

That is exactly what I mean. Whether a baby tooth or adolescent tooth, or a tooth knocked out during a football game, they would most likely keep them with other mementos... Not in a bag in multiple rooms of the house... Strange...

 

[yawningreyhound]

did he actually pay the support $? just curious

I was thinking if the separation became a point of law with custody and whatnot, he was due to be assigned support money and maybe he was objecting to that; although PF's mother says he was already paying money to KB monthly. Here in Colorado both parents are held responsible for supporting the child and the laws have changed about how the amounts are assigned. Don't ask me more specifically as I would have to research it.

 

[Mom24]

Different person, same name, who just happened to make a post about the Wizard of Oz, just hours after Kelsey was likely killed.

Crazy coincidence, but one that I was aware of early on.

That’s why I was so fired up when I saw it in the search warrant, as it hadn’t been redacted.

I knew it would set off a firestorm of misinformation.

Kind of ironic that a search warrant by LE set off a firestorm of misinformation since they were so aptly used by PF to do the same for months. It's a small form of justice.

 

[ajaylee]

I'm pages behind.

A couple thoughts:

1) Facebook. Somewhere buried in it all, I believe KK told LE she communicated with PF through FB IM (?). KK told LE she deleted these exchanges because she didn't want CL to find them.

2) Teeth around the house. I've known older folks (SF's age and older) who kept pulled teeth if the teeth had silver or gold crowns or fillings. They'd always talk about how it wasn't worth much, but hey, better for them to have the value than the dentist.

That might account for the teeth in SF's house, but I doubt explains PF's trophy collection.

3) I saw great conflict between the members of a family on a family phone plan when the 'owner' of the plan started snooping on the calls of other family members.

PF had visibility of all of KB's phone call activity. I wonder if he saw perfectly innocent phone calls and jumped to conclusions. IIRC, there was a reference to a Southwest pilot, possibly someone named Eric. KB either didn't know or didn't care because she had nothing to hide.

 

[MemPat]

Kelsey Berreth case search warrants released
The documents contain some peculiarities that police looked into while investigating Berreth’s disappearance.

According to the warrant police obtained to search the home Frazee and his mother shared in Florissant in mid-December, supporting documentation for the warrant application showed that Woodland Park police received a Facebook message of a screen shot of a post made by a woman named Sheila McCorkle-Frazee at 4:36 p.m. on Nov. 22 that shows a picture of Glinda from “The Wizard of Oz” and says, “YAY the witch is dead”.

ABC News reports that Sheila McCorkle-Frazee is not Frazee’s mother, but a different person entirely. Frazee’s mother is also named Sheila Frazee.

Police wrote in the warrant just after the screen shot: “There have been several inconsistencies between the information that Patrick initially gave officers and information obtained during the investigation.”

Frazee’s arrest affidavit showed that Berreth was last seen alive when she was captured on surveillance cameras at the Woodland Park Safeway with her daughter at 12:27 p.m. on Nov. 22, and that investigators believe Frazee killed Berreth inside her apartment before 3:30 p.m. that day, according to the warrant.

The same warrant for the search of the Frazee home in Florissant shows that investigators recovered a “floral fitted sheet with possible blood” and five teeth – four in one envelope and another separately. They were among 67 items seized during the search.

Thank you, Pommy Mommy!

 

[MassGuy]

Kind of ironic that a search warrant by LE set off a firestorm of misinformation since they were so aptly used by PF to do the same for months. It's a small form of justice.

Ha! True.

The Daily Mail still has it as their main headline.

Poor SF

 

[Mom24]

I was thinking if the separation became a point of law with custody and whatnot, he was due to be assigned support money and maybe he was objecting to that; although PF's mother says he was already paying money to KB monthly. Here in Colorado both parents are held responsible for supporting the child and the laws have changed about how the amounts are assigned. Don't ask me more specifically as I would have to research it.

SF stated that bank records would prove the $700/month child support. BUT there was no custody arrangement and that would mean no child support arrangement. So if PF was taking $700/month out of the family coffers it makes you wonder why and if the money was the reason for murdering KB. If PF was taking $700/month from his mother or the family farm and pretending it was for child support, it would be bad news if KB told SF a different story.

 

[PommyMommy]

@Gardenista, this is what I was trying to remember earlier.

Patrick Frazee's blow up after daughter's birth prompted call to Social Services, search documents show
Prosecutors called Sheila Frazee to the stand at a prior hearing for Frazee, 32, but a judge ruled that she didn't have to testify after her attorney indicated she would assert her Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.

During that hearing, El Paso County District Attorney Dan May said he wanted to question Sheila Frazee about a witness' report that she saw her son burning evidence on their Florissant-area ranch.

 

[Love Never Fails]

I was thinking if the separation became a point of law with custody and whatnot, he was due to be assigned support money and maybe he was objecting to that; although PF's mother says he was already paying money to KB monthly. Here in Colorado both parents are held responsible for supporting the child and the laws have changed about how the amounts are assigned. Don't ask me more specifically as I would have to research it.

His financial records will show if he paid support or if he was lying to mommy.

 

[kizzykat]

First time mom goes into labor 3 weeks early. The hospital takes extra precautions and PF goes off the handle that the baby isn't in the room with KB. Imagine what nurses deal with all the time....they are not new to upset family members and they know to remain calm in a crisis. Yet, someone was so disturbed and concerned about him that they wanted to check everything out before allowing the baby to be with her parents.

Whoa.

That is a rough start to motherhood for KB.

I know people like PF (well, not exactly like him)....and one way they are abusive is ruining happy occasions, though they justify it. PF was upset about "not being able to bond" with the newborn, as if his demonstration at the hospital was in anyway supportive and bonding for new mom and baby.

Signs were there, but who would predict it would end up like it did....I mean, other than the several people who knew he wanted to kill her.

jmo

I interpreted it as PF couldn't be in the room for the birth or immediately after due to the medical condition. And yes, a very rough start for her. And if PF is NPD, you are also correct as they will find a way to make themselves the center of attention (even if it's negative attention) while simultaneously ruining anyone else's happy moments.

 

[acutename]

I think it was to confirm what time PF arrived for dinner and something else that I can't remember because my brain is on overload.

Maybe instead of changing the locks at KB's to prevent anyone from entering until KK cleaned up, he changed the whole doorknobs? Just a wild guess.
MOO

who went to Thanksgiving Dinner
when they arrived
where KB was... not invited? chose not to go?

any fires at the F/PF ranch?
any knowledge about them?

what has PF told her about KB?
what does she know bout KB?
etc.

 

[MsJosie]

Defense made sure Jodi Arias was given medication as she was known to have temper tantrums also. Defense will likely medicate PF during trial.

Oh yes we all remember that.....and I agree IF he really swallows it!

 

[ilovechili]

On a bit of a different note, I will admit as I went through most of the warrants after maybe 1/2 of them, I was on overload and did not look through the remaining ones as closely as though with google, facebook, etc., they did not have much info on return of info on the warrants.

If I recall correctly, all blood focused on the bathroom with the exception of they took a living room rug? I saw nothing of taking part of the floor, ceiling, walls, etc. I guess what I am asking, if someone caught things I did not, is if the majority of their blood evidence was the bathroom yet she was allegedly killed in the living room?

 

[yawningreyhound]

The verizon map pictured on page 11 in https://www.courts.state.co.us/user...erest/2018CR330/002/18-118 Search Warrant.pdf has the phone transmitting around 4:24pm from KB's tower; and it's stated that PF called a 719 (colorado) number at 4:24pm (and an Idaho number at the same time). Exactly the same time the McCorkle FB post came out. This is getting creepier.

 

[ilovechili]

SF stated that bank records would prove the $700/month child support. BUT there was no custody arrangement and that would mean no child support arrangement. So if PF was taking $700/month out of the family coffers it makes you wonder why and if the money was the reason for murdering KB. If PF was taking $700/month from his mother or the family farm and pretending it was for child support, it would be bad news if KB told SF a different story.

I also think if I recall correctly SF said for a few months which to me translates to maybe one or two if even true as you say...