CO CO - Roger Ellison, 17, Cedaredge, 10 Feb 1981 #1

[Danaya]

I personaly don't see this as being Roger but like the theory someone put out there of this UID being from Europe where it was common to be uncircumsised. It would have been rare for a male from that era to not have been circumsised in USA or Canada. Maybe someone can give this UID his own thread here on WS.

 

[Ives]

I personaly don't see this as being Roger but like the theory someone put out there of this UID being from Europe where it was common to be uncircumsised. It would have been rare for a male from that era to not have been circumsised in USA or Canada. Maybe someone can give this UID his own thread here on WS.

I would, but I'm fairly new, and don't know how, or where to even begin

 

[ilovemew]

What about the "anomalies" under the concrete? I can't get that out of my head!

 

[CaptAmerica]

Hi ILOVEMEW, I don't understand the post or the statement regarding the concrete? How does this relate to the Ellison case?

 

[Danaya]

She means, the police found anomalaties (something) under the concrete of Pash's home, crawl space or garage-I forgot. They chose not to dig any way.

 

[Julessleuther]

Actually, I believe it was at the "teachers" house, not Ellison's house.

 

[Danaya]

meant 2type that, edited

 

[CaptAmerica]

Ilovemw-I am glad you made that statemen. Your thoughts about the concrete are very good ones. The necro search team used a lot of high tech imagery equipment to scan for images below the cement-but did not find enough information to warrant digging it up. The reason is that the cement and the related structure were built long after Roger's disappearance so I have been told. However, there is another structure on the property made of cement, that was not searched, that was constructed after Roger's disappearance so I am told, that warrants investigation. The exact date is yet to be determined but some information exists that suggests that the concrete may have been poured a short time after Roger's disappearance. Roger was known to visit that location in the evening supposedly to drop off homework. I think this was a cover story to mask the real reason why he went there. I have my ideas but I am hoping someone who was there during the times Roger visited could fill us in. So far at least two people have come forward, we are waiting for others. I also believe that those in the know monitor this site, they probably wonder when and if someone will ever figure it out. Its a heavy burden to carry for over 28 years.

The necro search team also examined some areas in the backyard. The yard is very large in comparison to most urban lots. They also did not find enough information to dig. My hope now is that they will try again this year and bring a cadaver dog to sniff the grounds. According to the dog's handler's, a cadaver dog can find the scent of dead bodies no matter how long they have been in the ground. This is assuming that Roger is deceased and that his body was buried or disposed of on that property. One fact appears obvious, he never left town on the day he disappeared.

 

[justthinkin]

I hope this is the year, silver1sb and her siblings finally get their answer to what happened to their beloved brother, Roger. They've waited far too long!

 

[2sisters]

I hope this case will have some resolution as well. I am not trying to be mean or hurtful as I am aware family is posting on here but something doesn't add up. The teacher, the friends who posted then vanished and the fact that it is so tight lipped and nobody seems to want to answer questions or really get stuff out in the open. I have been reading this thread, I re read the whole thing last night and somethings just not right. I feel like there are alot of secrets with this case.

 

[kirsty]

*bumping* Roger shouldnt be on page 2!

 

[2sisters]

*bumping* Roger shouldnt be on page 2!

Agreed. Maybe once people stop being tight lipped about this the case can get somewhere. I am not trying to be disrespectful at all but this goes nowhere with the only focus being on the teacher and the fact that there seems to be something quite secretive about this young man.

 

[Wendy101]

I hope this case will have some resolution as well. I am not trying to be mean or hurtful as I am aware family is posting on here but something doesn't add up. The teacher, the friends who posted then vanished and the fact that it is so tight lipped and nobody seems to want to answer questions or really get stuff out in the open. I have been reading this thread, I re read the whole thing last night and somethings just not right. I feel like there are alot of secrets with this case.

ditto...

 

[silver1sb]

Agreed. Maybe once people stop being tight lipped about this the case can get somewhere. I am not trying to be disrespectful at all but this goes nowhere with the only focus being on the teacher and the fact that there seems to be something quite secretive about this young man.

There is nothing secret abou Roger we have told it all! the only secret thing is the Delta County police Dept, they won't tell or say anything, seems like thats where the secret is. Today is 29 years to the date he is missing, I want some answers!!!!!!!!!

 

[2sisters]

There is nothing secret abou Roger we have told it all! the only secret thing is the Delta County police Dept, they won't tell or say anything, seems like thats where the secret is. Today is 29 years to the date he is missing, I want some answers!!!!!!!!!

Of course yall do, I think yall deverve to know. It is not fair that it has been this long. You are definitley in my prayers today on his anniversary. If you don't mind my asking, is there anything new happening with the case?

 

[2sisters]

Bumpi9ng him up. Someone knows something, please help bring him home.

 

[Pete]

Looking around on the web, JP taught in Arizona, Colorado then Medera, California where he teaches Social Studies and Psychology today. I do not see any sign of any criminal record in any of those states. I found a 1988 photo of him from California. Could he have been involved and then stayed away from crime since then? It is a bit hard to believe. I am guessing that the more likely possibilities are:

1) Roger left school on his own that day and then met with harm, perhaps while hitchhiking or walking. The two men with the shotgun story may or may not be real.

2) If he commited suicide it seems likely his body would have been found.

3) He could have left on his own but could he have kept quiet for 29 years?

4) Unless something turns up in the High School renovation there is little chance for new evidence.

5) It seems strange that the police do not just open up the files. If there is something they are trying to keep quiet for prosecution reasons then their plan is not working out for them. Maybe having the files and interviews available would jog someones' memory. People with information will be getting pretty old by now, why not try a different approach to the case? A Cold Case look or publication of the Files would be better than doing nothing.

6) At this point I bet the only way this can be solved is by someone coming forward who knows what happened.

 

[justthinkin]

Hi Pete. Welcome to Websleuths!

Actually someone who murders once and not ever again is the most common type of murderer. More rare are multiples--serial killers, mass murderers or people who murder their whole family.

A deliberate lone killing is often the result of rage, jealousy, an insult or some other perceived injury, and mixed with the perpetrator's use of alcohol or drugs. This type of murder can either be impulsive or planned, though more are of an impulsive nature than premeditated. This category is also represented by accidental killings, unintentional killings and self defense.

Murderers are not all the same, and not everyone who murders has the murdering mindset of a serial killer type. A lone killing could be the result of a person reaching a breaking point.

One of the problems with Roger leaving school is that no one saw him. If we had named eye-witnesses, I'd feel differently about any claimed sighting. I forget the name of the town he lived in. It's currently slipped my mind. It wasn't a large town though, and Roger worked evenings at a local grocery store so that coupled with his skiing abilities should have made him well known in the community, and easily remembered if he'd been seen.

I agree with your third point. If he left school--big if, he'd either have to have gotten a ride with someone or been on foot. If on foot, he couldn't have gotten too far, so if he had committed suicide, I would think he would have been found close to town. The thing with suicide in teens is that most of them carry out their suicides at home. To me, that vitually negates the possibility that Roger committed suicide.

I also agree with your points 4, 5, and 6. I would like to see this case featured on America's Most Wanted. I think what this case needs is a strong dose of publicity.

 

[Danaya]

Anyone know the way to get this on AMW? I will do it, maybe I'll check their website out.

 

[kevmob77]

Anyone know the way to get this on AMW? I will do it, maybe I'll check their website out.

From the AMW website on how to submit a case:

To Submit a Case to AMW.com
AMW can only accept missing person cases that have been reported to police. If you have not yet reported your case to local authorities, you should do so immediately. To have your case considered for America's Most Wanted and AMW.com, send a letter with the following elements to: America's Most Wanted
Missing Persons Unit
P.O. Box Crime TV
Washington, DC 20016

* Your full name and contact information. Be sure to include phone numbers and e-mail addresses where we can reach you during the day.
* Name and contact information of law enforcement personnel assigned to the case
* Your written description of circumstances surrounding the disappearance



Good quality photos, either originals or digital copies on a CD.* * NOTE: photos can not be returned. If you don't have photos handy, don't worry -- you can get them to us later.

Please make sure to note whether there is a known fugitive charged with the crime, or whether the perpetrator is yet to be identified. If charges have been filed, please note the police agency that filed the charges. It is also helpful to let us know what photos and/or video are available of the victim and the fugitive.

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They do not take internet submitted cases, unfortunately, and it is extremely difficult to get a particular case aired as there are literally thousands of them being considered. Maybe if most people who follow this thread on WS did it could gain some extra attention from the editors. One advantage I think Roger's case could have is that it is from 1981, the same year John Walsh's son Adam was abducted and murdered. They are actually featuring another case from 1981 this Saturday of a missing mom and son.