GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #63

[tmar]

Jace Larson Denver7 on Twitter
New Chris Watts information. Convicted murderer Chris Watts has been moved from a Colorado prison to another prison out of state. Victims’ families -- who requested to be notified -- have been notified. Location has not been identified publically. Move made for safety.

9:44 PM - 3 Dec 2018

Because it states, move made for safety, I wonder if there have been occasions where CW was under threat.
Hope this is later revealed.
Perhaps moving him out of state, he will be less known, have less of a known profile.
However I hope it isn't, to be closer to his family, making it easier for them.
MOO.

 

[MassGuy]

Looking at this photo of back of his truck, I think he only could put their bodies in backseat

I agree. His claim that he put them in the back seat, actually makes sense.

 

[PommyMommy]

The Apple Watch was on the night stand, was it being charged or just sitting there?
Since she was out of town on a business trip, the watch would need to be charged overnight.
Getting ready for bed, the majority of people will set the watch on a night stand or place it somewhere in the bedroom. This would place SW getting ready for bed, since she was found in a t-shirt and panties.
Side note, being pregnant , she would need to use the bathroom after arriving home.
I also believe she checked on each girl that night.

It was Inmate Watts' Apple Watch that was found on the nightstand. I don't think it was said whether or not it was charging. Shanann's Apple Watch was found under the pillows on the sofa.
Pg 411 (Discovery pg 468)

 

[BeckyF]

i wonder how they move him, by bus, or plane? Maybe it depends on the distance, logically, but I heard there are very long bus trips to move inmates around.

Wondering the same thing.

 

[esayer]

About 10 minutes in, the Defense Team says they accessed the house via the garage keypad

He was talking about the front door

 

[cakegirl0905]

If looks could kill! That is one brave and loving friend.
I sure she’s suffered many sleepless nights too.

She is so brave. I’d like to think I would be it could have been so easy to be intimidated by CW and just said OK, I’ll try her again later. So brave of her, she’s a huge huge huge part of why he was caught so quickly.

 

[tmar]

Video Shows Chris Watts Lying to Cops After Family Was Reported Missing: 'I Couldn't Sleep at All'
A newly-released police body camera video from inside Chris Watts‘ home shows the triple-murderer feigning concern about his missing wife and two daughters hours after he murdered them.

“I couldn’t sleep at all last night,” said Watts, turning to the officer. “I missed them throwing chicken nuggets at me, honestly, last night.”

Other footage shows Watts speaking to an FBI agent inside his home, telling them Shannan had said she had plans with the girls before they went missing.

“That’s when I rolled out of bed, and she pretty much said, ‘I’ll be taking the kids to a friend’s house, and I’ll be back later,'” he told the agent.

His lies are endless.
Hope they have been tabulated, once evidence came through.
A pitiful being, amongst the community, and never forgotten, for his evil deeds.
I am sure, friends, co workers, will now list the many lies they encountered while being in the company of this jerk.
MOO.

 

[BingoBongo]

The ex mistress of the scary narc from my past asked me recently if I was aware of the "Dirty John" series on Bravo. Nope.

But now I am.

Dirty John sounds worse criminally than the one I was involved with, but not too far off.

The lies, the manipulation, the double life, the ugly past, the scary behavior when unmasked...all narc traits, and all sound a bit like CW.

 

[ElleJaycee]

I don't even give him that much credit. He would be sad that he could not be having wild sex with the new bird.

I wonder if, like many inmates, if Chris will have a boyfriend in prison? Will he join a prison gang complete with all the tattoos?

 

[Jennifer17]

I wonder if, like many inmates, if Chris will have a boyfriend in prison? Will he join a prison gang complete with all the tattoos?

I am not sure about the tats, but I think that the other is likely.

 

[GoneGoldfishin']

Omg that video is so telling!!!! Guilty as sin! And his neighbor at the end. Wow.

That commercial at 3:54 i got chills- knowing what we do now. A fetus. Followed by a skull coming out of a black oil like substance.

I also had a physical response to those images, i started shaking. So much so that I tracked it down and it turned out to be a trailer for a tv program called American Horror Story. I have been freaking out about this eerie coincidence ever since; maybe I need to take a break from this case.

 

[x_files]

CW told Shanann - " I don't hate you. I will fix this. It will be better." , "I don't know where my head is at. I will fix it though." (discovery pg 2104)

hmm... fix it..The fix word is from NK? In what way did she mean it and in what way did CW mean when he said it?

"fix it" and "finalize it" these words were repeated by NK several times in her interview. Then again with CW's. hmmm....

 

[MassGuy]

The ex mistress of the scary narc from my past asked me recently if I was aware of the "Dirty John" series on Bravo. Nope.

But now I am.

Dirty John sounds worse criminally than the one I was involved with, but not too far off.

The lies, the manipulation, the double life, the ugly past, the scary behavior when unmasked...all narc traits, and all sound a bit like CW.

Dateline had a great episode on that sicko.

His victim fighting back and turning the tables on him, really warmed my heart.

It’s not often that a victim is able to kill her attacker.

 

[cakegirl0905]

So is NK off the hook for everything? There is nothing more LE can do?

I hope not. I would love to see something happen to her, if nothing else than tampering with evidence.

 

[MCDRAW]

Ronnie said that neither CW or Shanann wanted another child, that Shanann was extremely bipolar and had paranoid tendencies toward his wife.

He also said that CW had lost a lot of weight using Thrive and he didn't want to do it - Shanann was forcing him!

Pg 371 (Discovery pg 423)

MOO

When I read this in the discovery I realized then that he was worse than Cindy. IMO He wanted everyone to think he was the good guy (remind you of anyone?) when in fact he wasn't any different than Cindy. RW was worse in my opinion. At least with Cindy, SW knew to look for the dagger. With RW and CW, she never saw it coming.

 

[tmar]

If he has I clearly missed it

Bravo, we all have missed this.
I don't think we will ever hear the truth.
The DA had this information, and more, and I am sure, he feels as most here do.
MOO.

 

[book-thinker]

Hi everyone!

I have been following this case since day one. I am bordering on compulsively obsessed - the entire tragedy is beyond my comprehension and my heart just keeps breaking over and again for Shanann, Bella, and Cece - the terror, panic, and pain they each endured at the hands of someone they loved and trusted is just unimaginable. My heart goes out unendingly to the Rzuceks and Shanann's friends as every new horrifying detail hits our consciousness. I joined WS a while back but am as shy behind a keyboard as I am in the real world, so have only lurked with great respect (and sadness)as the discussion here unfolds.

I'm moving towards freeing myself and my three beautiful daughters from a 20 year marriage that has been emotionally and verbally abusive (although he'd say otherwise) and trying to keep us all safe through the process. My greatest fear is that things will turn physical. I'm always hyper vigilant. (By the grace of God, and probably because he didn't think I was serious and it would be temporary) he moved into a friend's house...so I don't see him more than once a week for visitation. But, I'm always alert and watching, thinking, strategizing. In other words, I most likely would not be blindsided. (I hope I never have to find out)

I just cannot begin to imagine the absolute terror in that house that night. By a man no one would have ever suspected would commit such heinous acts. It makes me physically ill, and beyond, beyond sad. I pray for peace for all who love Shanann and her daughters.

I hit reply for a reason, sorry for going off on a tangent. I listened to Mr Watts most of the way through with my headphones pressed tightly to my ears, boy is he hard to understand! But from what I gathered, he was describing a previous birthday party where Shannan had bought power rangers costumes for the kids as part of the theme, and the mask was forgotton behind. She "made" Chris drive back to get it, a 3 hour round trip for what he said was a costume that would not be worn more than 20 minutes. He used this example to illustrate (what he perceived as) her controlling nature and to make the point that Shannan wants what she wants and only thinks of herself. MOO, JMO.

As it's my first time posting, I hope I did this right.

Stay safe. I hope you have a source of contact if things go wrong. The national domestic violence hotline, is
a good source. Also there are safe houses in most cities. Moving towards freeing yourself from domestic violence is the first step, for you and your three beautiful daughters. Thank you for your first post.

 

[scdiv]

i wonder how they move him, by bus, or plane? Maybe it depends on the distance, logically, but I heard there are very long bus trips to move inmates around.

Con Air is supposed to be most unpleasant. And I'm sure bus travel isn't much fun either. And the process of being moved can take a long time and involves lots of shackles and chains? So yay. So many new firsts for CW!

 

[skyedaze]

When I read this in the discovery I realized then that he was worse than Cindy. IMO He wanted everyone to think he was the good guy (remind you of anyone?) when in fact he wasn't any different than Cindy. RW was worse in my opinion. At least with Cindy, SW knew to look for the dagger. With RW and CW, she never saw it coming.

Very interesting. Makes sense.

 

[cakegirl0905]

I don't get why they didn't just get rid of the house and buy something half the size and cost. They get out of one bankruptcy and then incur another huge debt. The rooms are sparsely furnished, it's not like they use all the space...

It’s not much of an option here to find something affordable. Our market is insane. Here they had a house in a safe area with decent schools and lots of young families.
My husband and I actually looked at houses in that neighborhood back in 2015 or so. They were next to the town we were living in, and near this super fun pumpkin patch. Anyway, we looked out there because they were “affordable”. Yes, that’s what affordable is in Colorado. We didn’t move there because of the out of control fracking, but it’s a good option for a lot of families.