Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34, dec.), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #2

[esmerelda]

I caught something that is a known habit of abusers. I didn't catch it til just now. She was from North Carolina, and was in a hurry to sell the home they lived in there. In fact the transaction was done from Colorado their new location. The buyers said she was in a hurry to sell and left furniture behind. Abusers like to distance you from family,friends.

 

[mickey2942]

Hard to believe they could pay the mortgage.

Yes, I was amazed to see someone with less money in their accounts than me.

Money troubles can definitely ramp up the stress. <modsnip - not victim-friendly>

 

[mountainguy777]

What an evil guy. Pure evil. I wonder how long it would have taken, or if ever, the bodies would have been found if he didn’t tell them? There’s a lot of area out there.

 

[Amonet]

He confessed. Why is that so hard to understand? First degree murder charges and tampering with evidence charges. Those charges will be filed formally on Monday or Tuesday. I’m sure he might change his tune with a lawyer, but LE knows what they are doing, and things he said that made the charges first degree.

Earlier it was reported as tampering with 'evidence' charges. But the judge there said tampering with 'bodies'? Did anyone catch that?

 

[Lore Listener]

It comes naturally to want to dismiss him and his actions as "pure evil" and neatly label him a "monster," then move on to the next thread about a similar family's destruction, but I'm not satisfied with that.

I'm sure there are others who feel the same way, too. I want to KNOW. . . not necessarily "why"-- because there's no answer to that basic question that could ever justify/rationalize his vicious actions.

Maybe it's the "what" that confounds me. There is so much about the human brain/mind that is still undiscovered. Perhaps it will always remain unknowable, but I think that there should be some sort of concerted, publicly-funded effort that draws together professionals from all walks of life (esp. psychiatry/ the law/ religion(?) / school, etc. etc.) to leave no stone un-turned in an effort to "sleuth" what the heck is going on!

That has to be a first step, right? Or am I being naive?
(rant over )

People are definitely studying this!

This one was passed around quite a bit earlier today: Study: family killers are usually men and fit one of four distinct profiles | WIRED UK

Also, read up on any profiles of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Anti-Social Personality Disorder, domestic abusers. "The Sociopath Next Door" is good for NPD/ASPD, and "Why Does He Do That?" by Lundy Bancroft for abusers.

 

[esmerelda]

I think those were the amounts claimed in the BK filing. Not recent.

Joint account. That’s all they offered up. They were broke.

 

[enelram]

could be...but I get a feeling they were careless about finances-
like 'we can just get new stuff out in Co.'

 

[jemjam]

I live in Colorado too. Why is it that a state that should be so laid-back and mellow attracts such horrific criminals?

I hear you!! So beautiful and so inspiring here. But all these huge crimes added together (just all these huge national nightmares) and this one is now on top weighing it all down some more- it’s more than a heavy heart- it’s a drag on the soul- not just individually but the whole. Like I said, it’s everywhere, but this one just struck deep.

 

[bestill]

He probably had a life insurance policy on himself via his employer, I doubt they had one on her or the kids.

 

[Deleted member 227095]

Makes sense.

I am re-posting his full interview for those who want to see what a coward baby killer looks like.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=872391139637173

Thank you for posting this chilling interview. Simply no words for this entire situation. None.

 

[mountainguy777]

Shannan was obviously carrying the load.

 

[PhoneJockey]

OK, I'm going to try and find it but there was a Daily Mail article that had bulletpoints below the headline. One of those said that both CW and Shanann were arrested several times in NC before moving to Colorado. Does anyone know what those arrests were for? The article never mentioned the arrests again.

 

[mountainguy777]

I hear you!! So beautiful and so inspiring here. But all these huge crimes added together (just all these huge national nightmares) and this one is now on top weighing it all down some more- it’s more than a heavy heart- it’s a drag on the soul- not just individually but the whole. Like I said, it’s everywhere, but this one just struck deep.

It is beautiful here, but Columbine...james Holmes theatre massacre....now this....

Arizona is sounding good

 

[enelram]

I hear you!! So beautiful and so inspiring here. But all these huge crimes added together (just all these huge national nightmares) and this one is now on top weighing it all down some more- it’s more than a heavy heart- it’s a drag on the soul- not just individually but the whole. Like I said, it’s everywhere, but this one just struck deep.

States that have many people moving there, where the people have no extended family nearby tend to have worse family crimes.
I recall reading this a while back.

 

[PhoneJockey]

OK, I found the article but it has been edited and the bulletpoint stating they both had several arrests in NC has been removed. I'm sorry. Here's the article. Colorado man 'confesses to killing' pregnant wife and daughters | Daily Mail Online

 

[bestill]

I hope some funeral homes will step up and help the family out with the expenses. I also home they bring them back to NC where her family lives. He can stay out there and rot.

 

[thefragile7393]

I have a feeling he may have been molesting these little girls. I hope they do a thorough examination of their remains. Watched him in court, and not ONE tear, not ONE indication of regret, just a psychopath sitting there in an orange jump suit.

Wait what? There’s....no evidence of that. At all. If anything he was very detached from them during his interview...that’s...no. No evidence of that right now

 

[overthemoon]

I hope some funeral homes will step up and help the family out with the expenses. I also home they bring them back to NC where her family lives. He can stay out there and rot.

I noticed that SW’s one of family members started to refer to her by her maiden name, SR.

 

[mountainguy777]

The neighbors just said that Shannan felt chris might be cheating on her, but she said “maybe not, because he has no game”.

 

[Seattle1]

Earlier it was reported as tampering with 'evidence' charges. But the judge there said tampering with 'bodies'? Did anyone catch that?

Yup. See post #616