Still Missing CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #93

[Megnut]

Do we suppose LE has new CCTV showing Barry's progress into Broomfield? Do they have images now of a truckbed full of coolers?

LE has FD (Dulos case) on CCTV, with many trash bags, then fewer, then none.

What might Barry have used? Bags? Coolers?

I don't know that the story has gaps wide enough to require another player, but could he have met up with someone on the morning of Mother's Day, 7 miles away from PP, to unload something from the bed of his truck? Wherein he didn't need to get out.

I wish we could have a look at his truck that morning. We've seen how he packs.

Was his cab packed? The bed? What was his strategy to avoid cross-contamination?

Just a lot of formless questions from me this morning.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

Dexter! Is a bolt of plastic sheeting missing from PP? All that activity Saturday night and Sunday morning, was he evidence-proofing his truck? Plastic sheeting and duct tape?

He saw no need to clean the inside of his truck afterwards!

JMO

 

[Skigh]

And BM said he was SM's "ATM" and I have no doubt he is the ATM for others as well. JMO (quoted from last thread)

Each time I see something written along this vein I become rankled. It speaks to dominance and misogyny on so many levels and only an un-enlightened man-boy would think it is an okay thing to brag about. I wonder how it made Suzanne feel, each time she heard it? I doubt it was grateful.

Perhaps it became an inside joke within their family unit? Who knows?

I can easily imagine that Suzanne was frequently reminded that it was his money and how hard he worked .

I think from a very early age he bought his daughters affection by buying them expensive things. I can just see when they were little Suzanne telling them they would have to wait to get a desired toy and Barry coming back the next day with it.

 

[Megnut]

We still haven't figured out what Barry was doing on Friday night, into the morning, recording abnormally high cellular activity.

Friday, pizza. Seen around town.

He would have had an actual alibi for Saturday. Is it possible that he was planning an ambush overnight, when Suzanne's phone would be naturally inactive, would stage the same bike ride, and be with MG all day on Saturday? Couldn't have been me, I was at work with an actual worker present.

Maybe that's why he was such a wreck on Saturday morning. His plan didn't work. Suzanne didn't drink the BAM or whatever his plan may have been.

Had it worked, he would've had only that small gap of cellular inactivity to contend with. Leave the house at 8, Suzanne's still "sleeping", consistent perhaps with her routine.

Barry could've planned to have MG come back to the house, to "discover" Suzanne missing together.

But he was thwarted, frazzled. Had to go hiking and biking with the wife, a pitiful attempt at we're a couple doing couple-y stuff. Maybe he planned to. Maybe he was going to attempt to recreate Friday's plan.... only something set him off. Trail cam footage or deer head footage would be my guess.

Could see her, could see she was talking to someone....

He goes home, takes down all his cameras, goes into town to get a new blade (because a shiny new blade can be decontaminated and still look like a shiny new blade. An old blade, bleached clean, would be a flashing billboard).

Returns home, desperate to get to her before she goes biking (her predictable afternoon ritual) -- growing angrier and angrier the closer he gets.

I may be way off but IMO his Friday night factors into this. I'm just not sure how.

JMO

 

[Momofthreeboys]

I can easily imagine that Suzanne was frequently reminded that it was his money and how hard he worked .

I think from a very early age he bought his daughters affection by buying them expensive things. I can just see when they were little Suzanne telling them they would have to wait to get a desired toy and Barry coming back the next day with it.

I thought she got a hefty amount of walking around money every week...that is somewhere in the documents...I do think it is misognistic to make that statement but I've often wondered how it works in one income producing families. It's too personal to ask any of my friends who were fortunate to be in that situation where they didn't need to work outside the home. That's a rather expensive beginner bike she was riding and no one in that family seems to be in "want" as far a materialistic things so somehow money got dispersed.

 

[JosieMae]

Based on MG's statements about Saturday, something on BM's phone was completely distracting to him, causing him to abruptly stop work and return home. Rattled.

Was SM ignoring him? What was SM doing during this time?

 

[MrsWatson]

Based on MG's statements about Saturday, something on BM's phone was completely distracting to him, causing him to abruptly stop work and return home. Rattled.

Was SM ignoring him? What was SM doing during this time?

I think MG will be able to provide valuable insight into BM's mood and overall demeanor for Saturday. She's already given some hints, how he was acting strange and was stuck to his phone. I think she knows a lot more and I look forward to hearing it. Esp any comments he made beyond the "make the wife happy" ones.

 

[NothingSurprisesAnymore]

Oh. OK.

Just to clarify @Kemug

Regarding the quote attributed to me in your post at 4:07am today...

"right now Barry is not going to stand up and tell everybody his story because he is smart enough not to do that"

That quote is not my opinion but was from a post of mine quoting Grusing from the AA where Grusing seemed to be close to getting a confession from Barry. It is on page 121 of AA.

Grusing was softening him up

We all know Barry talked. A lot...

 

[Megnut]

Based on MG's statements about Saturday, something on BM's phone was completely distracting to him, causing him to abruptly stop work and return home. Rattled.

Was SM ignoring him? What was SM doing during this time?

According to the AA (p. 17/19), she was sharing communications with JL. 59 of them.

At 11:42 am, she messaged him "Guess who is alone again".

Hmmmm. Was that her first communication of the day with him?

Where was Barry at this time??????

Wasn't he claiming veggie souptime but was traipsing down by the river?!!!!

If only we could reach back in time!!! --- SUZANNE, YOU AREN'T ALONE. He was right there behind the house!

JMscaryO

Colorado Judicial Branch - Chaffee - Cases of Interest - People of the State of Colorado v. Barry Lee Morphew

 

[Hoss569]

(*)Why haven't we seen or heard of any of the finance details? A simple bank or credit card statement would solidify and clear up quite a bit of the speculation of locations and stops supposedly made by ALL involved. If he did work off a cash basis where's the picture of the decently sized safe in the house and it's contents?
(*)Payment apps? gifting apps to the daughters? It is crazy to think that a family like the Morphew's wouldn't have a lengthy financial trail with a daughter finishing high school and one in college plus an inventory of rolling stock(cars) that is greater than the value of most homes.
(*)Why hasn't the defense been adamant to get these financials as they would clear up quite a bit of confusion as to the when's and where's?
(*)I seriously doubt he ran his business on a cash basis. Didn't he did get a covid helper loan for the business?
(*)Is their a separate investigation going on that has the financials tied up? Like the home balance sheet doesn't really equal the business balance sheet(or neither of them make sense) and the IRS has now locked them up as BM's shenanigan's make his finances just as confusing?
(*)Is or was BM the sole bread winner at the time? Did SM make any money in her adventures?
(*)Were the trips/trists by BM and SM paid for in cash? How did she hide those expenses, and/or how did he hide his?
(*)Did they both have secret accounts?

Sorry for rambling, could go on quite a bit. IMO, the finances, withdrawal's, charge's, would solidify quite a bit of his alibi and or paint another picture of the timeline that can be verified(quickly and simply).
Maybe they Bury BM, maybe they bury SM, maybe the prosecution is still trying to piece it together, like some large cash withdrawals that have yet to be confirmed.

Edit: Is it the smoking gun the prosecution has that the defense does not want revealed.

 

[charminglane]

Dexter! Is a bolt of plastic sheeting missing from PP? All that activity Saturday night and Sunday morning, was he evidence-proofing his truck? Plastic sheeting and duct tape?

He saw no need to clean the inside of his truck afterwards!

JMO

There are so many kinds BM probably had access to for landscaping and contractor purposes.
Visqueen Plastic | Guide to Types and Uses

 

[Seattle1]

Still Missing - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #92

Post from prior thread #92-- OP questions when hotel rooms for Broomfield were booked. According to Defense attorney IE day 3 of PH (8/23 tweet), there were no hotel rooms requested by BM and he did not cancel his crew after learning SM disappeared.

Barry Morphew Prelim Day 3 Part 2
<snip>
Lauren Scharf
@LaurenScharfTV
Eytan said #BarryMorphew didn't tell the front desk to get two cleanrooms for his workers and he didn't tell his workers not to come. Morgan Gentile and Jeff Puckett came to the hotel Sunday night
<snip>

CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 , MEDIA,MAPS,TIMELINE *NO DISCUSSION*

 

[NothingSurprisesAnymore]

(*)Why haven't we seen or heard of any of the finance details? A simple bank or credit card statement would solidify and clear up quite a bit of the speculation of locations and stops supposedly made by ALL involved. If he did work off a cash basis where's the picture of the decently sized safe in the house and it's contents?
(*)Payment apps? gifting apps to the daughters? It is crazy to think that a family like the Morphew's wouldn't have a lengthy financial trail with a daughter finishing high school and one in college plus an inventory of rolling stock(cars) that is greater than the value of most homes.
(*)Why hasn't the defense been adamant to get these financials as they would clear up quite a bit of confusion as to the when's and where's?
(*)I seriously doubt he ran his business on a cash basis. Didn't he did get a covid helper loan for the business?
(*)Is their a separate investigation going on that has the financials tied up? Like the home balance sheet doesn't really equal the business balance sheet(or neither of them make sense) and the IRS has now locked them up as BM's shenanigan's make his finances just as confusing?
(*)Is or was BM the sole bread winner at the time? Did SM make any money in her adventures?
(*)Were the trips/trists by BM and SM paid for in cash? How did she hide those expenses, and/or how did he hide his?
(*)Did they both have secret accounts?

Sorry for rambling, could go on quite a bit. IMO, the finances, withdrawal's, charge's, would solidify quite a bit of his alibi and or paint another picture of the timeline that can be verified(quickly and simply).
Maybe they Bury BM, maybe they bury SM, maybe the prosecution is still trying to piece it together, like some large cash withdrawals that have yet to be confirmed.

Edit: Is it the smoking gun the prosecution has that the defense does not want revealed.

The Morphew's financials are interesting and were referenced several times in AA.

money allocation
spending habits
investment accounts
withdrawals
personal loans
losses
cash payments

 

[Megnut]

Things we might know:

Barry replaced his Bobcat blade on Saturday. Presumably MG was using that Bobcat that morning. Did she note anything? The guy who replaced it, did he? Was it a necessary replacement? We know Barry's cheap -- if it didn't need replacing, would he have? Unless he had a greater need than saving money.

Barry seems to have driven by the backhoe -- did he stop? Did he touch it? What was the purpose of that call? To locate the backhoe or to locate the backhoe owner? (Make sure he wasn't with his backhoe.)

By the time LE laid eyes on the Bobcat, the arm pin was -- what? -- removed? Loose bolts from....?

Assuredly it wasn't in that condition when he left Salida with the new blade so why?????

We know Barry operated the Bobcat at least once. To detrailer it in order to unhitch the trailer with it. When did he do this? Is this action recorded somewhere? And if not, why?

The Defense seems to think that the telematics from the Bobcat are exculpatory, at least for the Bobcat. As of the date of the AA, the Prosecution gave the Bobcat a pass.

But...

There's a possibility that SIM cards can be swapped.

There remains this matter of the dog hits.

This footprint, was it a print in dirt in the bucket? Was it on the metal? How pristine was the blade?

Is it possible that Barry used the Bobcat overnight, for transport?

There are a lot of moving parts here.

JMO

 

[Seattle1]

Just to clarify @Kemug

Regarding the quote attributed to me in your post at 4:07am today...

"right now Barry is not going to stand up and tell everybody his story because he is smart enough not to do that"

That quote is not my opinion but was from a post of mine quoting Grusing from the AA where Grusing seemed to be close to getting a confession from Barry. It is on page 121 of AA.

Grusing was softening him up

We all know Barry talked. A lot...

I don't think BM has ever been close to confessing!

BM stroking the blade of the bobcat with his foot every time Agent Grusing hit a nerve was BM self-soothing. We saw this with Chris Watts rocking back and forth when being interviewed by a TV news crew outside his home.

Liars confronted about their deceit can't keep still while formulating the next lie. And we've long known BM created falsehood after falsehood-- each time Agent Grusing shared new information with him.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Things we might know:

Barry replaced his Bobcat blade on Saturday. Presumably MG was using that Bobcat that morning. Did she note anything? The guy who replaced it, did he? Was it a necessary replacement? We know Barry's cheap -- if it didn't need replacing, would he have? Unless he had a greater need than saving money.

Barry seems to have driven by the backhoe -- did he stop? Did he touch it? What was the purpose of that call? To locate the backhoe or to locate the backhoe owner? (Make sure he wasn't with his backhoe.)

By the time LE laid eyes on the Bobcat, the arm pin was -- what? -- removed? Loose bolts from....?

Assuredly it wasn't in that condition when he left Salida with the new blade so why?????

We know Barry operated the Bobcat at least once. To detrailer it in order to unhitch the trailer with it. When did he do this? Is this action recorded somewhere? And if not, why?

The Defense seems to think that the telematics from the Bobcat are exculpatory, at least for the Bobcat. As of the date of the AA, the Prosecution gave the Bobcat a pass.

But...

There's a possibility that SIM cards can be swapped.

There remains this matter of the dog hits.

This footprint, was it a print in dirt in the bucket? Was it on the metal? How pristine was the blade?

Is it possible that Barry used the Bobcat overnight, for transport?

There are a lot of moving parts here.

JMO

I would not presume MG was using the bobcat. She said she was raking....that is a step in landscaping often and it is just that: hand raking. That area is rather smallish to even use a bobcat and you'd have to get it up and over the rivetment and it looks like grass down to the rivetment. So I assume she was raking the exposed river bottom behind the rock revetment so it looked nice and tidy or at least until the water rose again. They "could have" dumped more sand in...I sorta doubt it as it would just wash out, but you never know sometimes homeowners want things at that moment with what they see but don't realize that water rises and falls.

 

[mrjitty]

Still Missing - CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee Co, 10 May 2020 *arrest* #92

Post from prior thread #92-- OP questions when hotel rooms for Broomfield were booked. According to Defense attorney IE day 3 of PH (8/23 tweet), there were no hotel rooms requested by BM and he did not cancel his crew after learning SM disappeared.



CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 , MEDIA,MAPS,TIMELINE *NO DISCUSSION*

All feels very slapstick!

 

[Megnut]

Barry knew he couldn't use his Bobcat on Sunday without drawing attention to unpermitted work....

Best I can understand it, his alibi is that he wanted to get up to Broomfield a good ten hours before his originally scheduled crew (MG) so he could...um...what? Show her where he put the wrong equipment?

Did he drive all that way just to shower?

What I really want to know is

Why did he leave the Bobcat in Maysville?

Can any of you make that make sense?

JMO

 

[Seattle1]

Things we might know:

Barry replaced his Bobcat blade on Saturday. Presumably MG was using that Bobcat that morning. Did she note anything? The guy who replaced it, did he? Was it a necessary replacement? We know Barry's cheap -- if it didn't need replacing, would he have? Unless he had a greater need than saving money.

Barry seems to have driven by the backhoe -- did he stop? Did he touch it? What was the purpose of that call? To locate the backhoe or to locate the backhoe owner? (Make sure he wasn't with his backhoe.)

By the time LE laid eyes on the Bobcat, the arm pin was -- what? -- removed? Loose bolts from....?

Assuredly it wasn't in that condition when he left Salida with the new blade so why?????

We know Barry operated the Bobcat at least once. To detrailer it in order to unhitch the trailer with it. When did he do this? Is this action recorded somewhere? And if not, why?

The Defense seems to think that the telematics from the Bobcat are exculpatory, at least for the Bobcat. As of the date of the AA, the Prosecution gave the Bobcat a pass.

But...

There's a possibility that SIM cards can be swapped.

There remains this matter of the dog hits.

This footprint, was it a print in dirt in the bucket? Was it on the metal? How pristine was the blade?

Is it possible that Barry used the Bobcat overnight, for transport?

There are a lot of moving parts here.

JMO

I'm thinking the opposite. The blade on the bobcat is a cutting edge that wears out after about 500 hours and is typically flipped when worn. We know that BM had previously flipped the blade so it needed to be replaced this time. BM worked late on Friday and I think the reason he had MG raking by hand on Saturday morning was that he'd tried to finish the grade on Friday night and couldn't do it with the blade that was shot. Inspections were coming up the next week and Saturday shop time is what you want if you can get it. BM created relationships with those (i.e., DSi) that were important to him and his moneymaker (bobcat). MOO

 

[NothingSurprisesAnymore]

I don't think BM has ever been close to confessing!

BM stroking the blade of the bobcat with his foot every time Agent Grusing hit a nerve was BM self-soothing. We saw this with Chris Watts rocking back and forth when being interviewed by a TV news crew outside his home.

Liars confronted about their deceit can't keep still while formulating the next lie. And we've long known BM created falsehood after falsehood-- each time Agent Grusing shared new information with him.

Thank you, can see your point of view too.

Would be interested to know what a comprehensive behavioral analysis of BM would show?

Wonder if opinions vary much within that field...