Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #68 *ARREST*

[303gmf]

Please forgive OT, but I just love your kittycat avatar photo, @303gmf -- it makes me smile every time I see it!

Lol, that’s Sunny, my very nosy cat

 

[Allabouttrial]

I'm not disagreeing with you, if that DV can be proved. What I do find at issue is, how likely would a DV victim risk their safety by having an affair? From experience, I would say that a victim of DV is less likely to put their safety at risk by doing so.

However, I do concede that a DV victim is most at risk when they decide to leave an abusive relationship.

I was just wondering about that. I would imagine her affair would have added to her already stressful life rather than enrich it. I'm sure she was happy she'd reconnected with him but it must have also caused her to fear for her safety even more.

 

[Alethea]

I have been thinking about how LE didn't identify Jeff earlier or know that Suzanne had another relationship early on and I think the answer will be they didn't check her LinkedIn account. LinkedIn isn't a "messaging" app even though it has a messaging feature.

I have never seen a document request, from the government or otherwise, that requests preservation or production of messages from LinkedIn. I personally have never asked an adversary to produce relevant information from LinkedIn (though I will going forward).

On Facebook, if someone deletes their Facebook account, your messages from that person will say "Facebook User" instead of their name. Perhaps something similar happens on LinkedIn. LE seems to have the LinkedIn messages so they got them from somewhere-maybe LinkedIn directly.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Question I've had for a long time that I had hoped would be answered yesterday, but didn't see it addressed:

How did LE find Suzanne's bike so quickly? Could it be seen from the road? I understood it to be 10 meters down the hill IIRC? They did say yesterday there were no skid marks on the road, or sign of an accident. Please help me, what am I missing?

I've always just assumed as they approached the house after the call came in, they (sheriff's deputies) were already in "scan the landscape" mode, looking for her or any evidence of her in the general area. But that's just a guess on my part.

 

[mommame]

Watched Profiling Evil this morning, Chris reminded everyone that he has been saying all along. If the defence starts trashing the victim, then the state has a good case. No reason to trash victim if hardly any evidence is there. Sooo heres hoping....

 

[IceIce9]

I guess you missed the part where Suzanne stated in her own words that she was waiting for Macy to graduate and be on her own?

That really saddened me, because the daughter she was trying to protect turned against her.

 

[303gmf]

I thought MG was living in apartment/condo/townhouse, so if she was, there would probably be a communal dumpster that would have been very convenient, right?

I thought it was a single family house

 

[303gmf]

My whole opinion of Suzanne has changed, and not in a good way.

That’s rather disgusting, moo!

 

[Alethea]

I guess we will find out some more today and the remaining two days after that. I wonder how much of the AA was devoted to the affair and the text messages?

At one point they were reading from the AA - I understand now why it was 126 pages and I hold firm in my belief that it was completely superfluous and unnecessary. You don't need to prove anything about a victim to show probable cause, IMO. You just need to show the defendant likely carried out the physical act. It's not about eliminating reasonable doubt at that point, it's just the bare minimum to get a judge to sign off.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I'm not disagreeing with you, if DV can be proved. What I do find at issue is, how likely would a DV victim risk their safety by having an affair? From experience, I would say that a victim of DV is less likely to put their safety at risk by doing so.

However, I do concede that a DV victim is most at risk when they decide to leave an abusive relationship.

From what we heard yesterday, Suzanne met up with this JL person only 6-7 times over the course of 2 years. On average, that's a face to face meeting once every 4 months. To me, that says she's was being very careful as to the when & the how, keeping it hidden from not only Barry but even her best friend. Maybe to her, she thought she was being careful enough that it wasn't a risk at all? It's hard to say, and we can't ask her because, Barry made sure she'd never have a voice again.

jmo

 

[Love Never Fails]

That really saddened me, because the daughter she was trying to protect turned against her.

Me too! Maybe after a good nights sleep, or some time to think, both daughters will realize the truth. It is sad they have to go through any of this.

 

[GatorFL]

I guess we will find out some more today and the remaining two days after that. I wonder how much of the AA was devoted to the affair and the text messages?

I wonder that as well.

 

[Alethea]

I know what a preliminary hearing is. I said a few threads back the prosecution has a pretty large mountain to climb to get BM convicted of murder one in this case. After reviewing what is out there, I think that mountain has grown. All they have is the truck evidence so far. All circumstantial.

I am waiting to hear what they present today but I am a little concerned that a full day essentially was spent on victimology. You just need to prove the act was committed. If they had good direct evidence, they wouldn't need all of this. They'd just say Barry bought a new shovel, his car drove along the route where the evidence was found, etc. etc. But without a body and without physical evidence, they are essentially trying to prove it's more likely than not that Barry did it since who else could have done it? It's risky.

I think they may have cover-up evidence and that can be enough. I just hope it doesn't involve the girls.

 

[GatorFL]

I’m surprised people who seem to have no empathy for the victim would choose to follow this case, considering what little information LE has released during 15 months. Maybe it’s morbid curiosity. MOO

I sort of gravitate to the unknown and missing cases, which is my interest. I am not dug in as deep as many, I am following this one casually. I certainly see this case quite differently than most posters here I think.

 

[GatorFL]

I feel like there has to be a bombshell? Right?? JMO

For the prosecution's sake, let's hope so.

 

[Error505]

The assertion that both the driver’s and passenger’s doors opened around the same time Saturday afternoon appeared here on WS yesterday as this was the only site I followed. And if I recall correctly, that’s where the 2:47 pm Saturday time came from.

So for hours I was thinking A HA! this proves my theory SM willingly went with BM somewhere and then he did the deed. And he came home at around 3:30 am Sunday!

But then late last night I looked over journalists’ tweets (Lauren, Ashley, Carol) and a few news station articles and couldn’t find anything referencing the significant info of the two doors opening on Saturday afternoon. I’m too lazy to search through the last thread but a reference to two doors did appear.

There may have been a couple of “eager” WSers post that exact info yesterday by misunderstanding what was being tweeted via different reporters. There were a couple of times yesterday some conflicting information was translated in tweets
1) distance of helmet from bike
2) 2 truck doors closing
3) timing of 2:47 pm Saturday translated to 2:47 am Sunday

Those are just a few of the distinct discrepancies I can recall quickly. Moo.
I try to look at several tweets to find correct info, not easy to do when fast moving threads are posting.

Anyone….Who is the most accurate twitter account to follow? TIA
MOO

 

[GatorFL]

I am waiting to hear what they present today but I am a little concerned that a full day essentially was spent on victimology. You just need to prove the act was committed. If they had good direct evidence, they wouldn't need all of this. They'd just say Barry bought a new shovel, his car drove along the route where the evidence was found, etc. etc. But without a body and without physical evidence, they are essentially trying to prove it's more likely than not that Barry did it since who else could have done it? It's risky.

I think they may have cover-up evidence and that can be enough. I just hope it doesn't involve the girls.

The minute that prosecutor gave her presser I knew this case had problems, big ones.

 

[mainemom376]

So if no blood evidence at all, how do they prove she is dead. Thinking of the Berreth case. Vastly different in terms of physical evidence. JMO

 

[Blue Amethyst]

The defendant/client is accused of first-degree murder -- in this case, a man killing a petite woman. In books, I've read, an attorney's body language, posturing herself close to the defendant, touching him, interacting face to face, can soften the defendant's image, humanize him, attempt to show he's non-threatening. I believe it may work on some jurors. It wouldn't work on me -- I read too much here!

Do they know that he is guilty? If a person is guilty do they admit it to their defence team? Or do they never admit to anything to have a good defence? I am not sure how this works.

 

[StarrDetective]

I personally have not found any verification from the hearing yet, that front brakes were locked, speculation from some posts, but no direct quote from the hearing. Moo

Lauren confirms this in her video last night. I highly recommend watching it. I learned a lot of new stuff. In addition to live tweeting, she took 17 pages of notes!