We’re all partial DNA matches to each other. “Partial”, as used by the defense team is misleading at best. MOO.
You still can’t separate Barry from this, regardless of that DNA.
Some predator didn’t kidnap Suzanne, enter her car, leave her purse, stage a bicycle, dump a helmet, force Barry to lie about when he woke up, put Barry outside when he should have been sleeping, put Barry in the vicinity of the bike, shut down Suzanne’s phone at the precise moment Barry needed it to, force Barry to chase elk towards the helmet location, force him to dump 5 bags of trash, force him to lie about working, force him to lie about where he was when he got that call, force him to lie about the state of their marriage, and Suzanne wanting a divorce.
He didn’t cause Suzanne’s footprint to cease to exist on that afternoon, put Barry’s phone on airplane mode, disappear her journal, scratch Barry’s arms.
Etc, etc, etc.
^^rsbmI do feel his bias toward closing proceedings to cameras, discomfort with WebEx, and comfort with ignoring the spirit of Rule 55.1 by giving specious refutations to everything in it as though he resents the rule forcing him to make his reasoning public make him questionable as the presider over this high profile case. He is static where dynamic would be of more benefit to all.
Good point. Barry may not have an ATM card either. He liked cash, and probably received payment for jobs in cash. That way he did not have to report income, and the bank couldn’t trace the transactions. I’m surprised they haven’t nailed him with a charge for tax fraud.
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I would think BM admitting to having an account linked to an extremist group to view hacked *advertiser censored* with celebrities is more disturbing than mom allegedly taking up with her old HS flame-- but that's just me.Hmmm so is everyone in on it? Prosecution didn’t bring up anything earth shattering except the affair which is not IMO enough reason to redact - and the defense repeatedly hammered away at the same testimony perhaps delaying something ? - really great sleuthing here @24Brix i will need to play with that sentence based on some worse case scenarios …
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Good point. Barry may not have an ATM card either. He liked cash, and probably received payment for jobs in cash. That way he did not have to report income, and the bank couldn’t trace the transactions. I’m surprised they haven’t nailed him with a charge for tax fraud.
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100 likes. It's rubbish and the defense team knows it yet people are eating it up.Having a partial match on 3 people from the DNA isn't at all concerning to me. A DNA expert would testify at trial and explain that a partial match isn't saying that DNA belong to a known sexual offender. That means part of the DNA on the glovebox matched DNA of a sexual offender. They could be related far down the tree like 4th + cousins and show as a partial match. Likely a mechanic, car detailer or heck even a person who works at the car lot the car was sold from put that DNA there at some point. That person isn't a sexual offender, their DNA is a partial match to someone that is a known sexual offender. That is what I take from reading about partial matches. It sounds good to say a partial match to a known sexual offender, but partial just means shared DNA, not a full match, so not the person. It's smoke and mirrors stuff.
There are some excellent timelines put together.One thing that keeps bothering me is the fact that Suzanne asked BM via text to grab “spa stuff”.
She didn’t ask him to check on getting the spa fixed, she asked him to grab “stuff”. Yet, instead of stopping at the spa store on the way home, he went back out in the 4pm hour to talk about them coming to fix the spa? Let’s assume for arguments sake, the spa owners are correct and he did stop by there that day and time.
It’s not making sense.
Suzanne’s text request implied to me that the spa was working, and simply needed chemicals. So why would BM be chatting up the spa people about getting it fixed for so long on a day (I believe) he murdered his wife?
Trying to establish alibi to or from a dump site, then reset the truck when he arrived back home (truck was reset ≈5:30pm correct?), erasing those 18 or so miles that are still unaccounted for?
Has anyone put together a timeline from what we know so far about BM’s supposed movements?
Did investigators actually have the spa examined to verify BM’s statements that it was even broken?
ITA, I have always thought from the beginning that there is way more going on here than we can even imagine. What, I do not know. Can’t even begin to speculate, but I have always thought that the daughters were privy to whatever it was. JMOThis exactly.
If you look at the bottom of page 2 of the linked court order to seal the AA, there is a single black line of redaction. I’m convinced that short black line, more than any other, is the tell-tale mark that’s protecting the daughters from some truly heinous information. (And IMO it may keep the AA sealed until trial, at which point everything will have to come to light.)
I’ve been playing a game with myself because I don’t want to go into that much conjecture here on WS: But read that redacted sentence, filling in the redaction in your own words using natural language that grammatically follows.
“These young women are in an unimaginable situation and should be given time to process what has occurred and the time to review, or decide not to review, the evidence alleged against their father <<…redacted…>>.”
For me, and IMO, the first redacted word is “by”. And it’s not “by the District Attorney’s office of the State of Colorado”. I think the court is protecting the girls from the very specific, very inflammatory, testimony of a very specific person. To me, personal information is the most logical reason for redacting this part of the sentence’s structure.
But who is it? And what is it they are alleging?
MOO.
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/11th_Judicial_District/Chaffee/cases of interest/21CR78/21CR78 Order Limit Public Redacted.pdf
There are some excellent timelines put together.
On page 1 of every thread, the 1st post always has a link to MEDIA, MAPS & TIMELINE *NO DISCUSSION*
This linked thread is a wealth of historical information related to the case.
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I see it a bit differently. Why would ever investigator read the entire AA or know the intricate details of what other investigators did or do in this investigation? This was a massive investigation with multiple agencies looking into various things over the course of a year before this AA was written. The prosecution called each witness and asked them about what they could give testimony on. The defense it seemed asked them questions they would not know the answer to in order to make them look bad. I saw someone else write that it's like going into a restaurant and asking the cook about the cashier procedures. It isn't their piece of the puzzle so why ask them? Well for the defense it's to muddy things up and make it seem like they don't know what they should know.
I don't believe they identified who they came from. It was my understanding that the DNA on Suzanne's glove box was submitted to CODIS and returned partial matches to DNA from three unsolved sexual assault cases. So they couldn't establish where that man (or men) was at the time of Suzanne's disappearance because they don't know who they are.And the thing is, the police followed up on those partials and identified who they might have come from. They did their job. I feel that they would also have established where those partial-match-people were when Suzanne disappeared. By the sounds of things, they might be living in another state.
My thoughts are things the daughters have said to LE are in that AA. This could cause them undo harassment from family members.
LE didn’t seem concerned about testing the coffee for poison, they didn’t seem concerned about the sleeping bag near the helmet, they didn’t seem too concerned about the bike…lots they didn’t seem too concerned about. Just saying and these are things we know about. Makes you wonder what defense knows about.I pray that I’m wrong, but the defense may have provided just enough doubt about the DNA in SM’s car to make the judge question the investigation. IMO, it didn’t help that the witnesses for the prosecution didn’t seem to be as prepared as I thought they would be, especially the guy who had only read about the first dozen pages of the AA. I understand that he was on leave until May, but that was four months ago. Again, I pray that I’m wrong because I believe BM is guilty.