Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #34

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“We are handing out flyers with Suzanne’s picture and information in hopes of more public awareness.

Our sole purpose is to either find Suzanne or determine the cause of her disappearance.”


Still need help from the public? By now, either you got him or you don’t.

JMO

Based on the quotes below from LS’ piece last night, it appears that the someone in the public knows something and they are not speaking. The flyer pass out is LE’s way of saying ‘this isn’t just going to disappear, you should talk’.

Search for Suzanne Morphew pushes on despite silence from Chaffee County Sheriff


“We are such a small town where everyone knows everything. You would be amazed by the secrets the mountains hold regarding this case,” a business owner said.

Another store owner added, “people that have money can do dangerous things, if you get too close to the fire you can get burned.”
 
Okay @Topppps I’m going to bite this time...almost looked up those coordinates the last time you posted them. So I just went down a big Poncha Springs rabbit hole. What is that creepy, abandoned looking place? Old mining camp? Ghost town? I couldn’t get down to eye level. Interesting how 115 turns off from 285 and loops through the rocky, wooded mountainous terrain with lots of cliffs and gorges and intersects back onto 285...what is it that makes you suggest this specific area as a possible location? Is it just because it’s a good hiding place or do you have information or research leading you to suspect this area? Well more than an “area” as you have exact coordinates. Did you send to PE, AM or CCSO? I agree it looks like a very good place to hide a body and is close to Maysville and could be done en route to Broomfield with just a little detour off the highway. There is also a little stretch of 285 that runs very closely and parallel to the Arkansas River with a secluded turn off where you could drive right up to the bank of the river. I haven’t caught up to the end of the thread so disregard if already asked & answered. TIA!
Thank you for this information! It helps to get a feel for the layout, etc.

It would be nice to see a map and/or ariel view of it as I'm guessing I'm not the only one who has problems with Google maps, etc. (or at least I hope I'm not the only one, lol). Heck, I have problems even getting the little man to walk along to view a neighborhood/area. I can drag him and drop him to area I want to view but then I can't get him to go where I need to go and I really get myself into a jam when I come to an intersection and try to get him to turn right or left, lol!

We used to have several posters who were very good at the maps and it helped for those of us who are not from the areas and have probably not been there either.

But again, I thank you for the information you provided as I've got a better picture of it now in my mind!
 
Okay @Topppps I’m going to bite this time...almost looked up those coordinates the last time you posted them. So I just went down a big Poncha Springs rabbit hole. What is that creepy, abandoned looking place? Old mining camp? Ghost town? I couldn’t get down to eye level. Interesting how 115 turns off from 285 and loops through the rocky, wooded mountainous terrain with lots of cliffs and gorges and intersects back onto 285...what is it that makes you suggest this specific area as a possible location? Is it just because it’s a good hiding place or do you have information or research leading you to suspect this area? Well more than an “area” as you have exact coordinates. Did you send to PE, AM or CCSO? I agree it looks like a very good place to hide a body and is close to Maysville and could be done en route to Broomfield with just a little detour off the highway. There is also a little stretch of 285 that runs very closely and parallel to the Arkansas River with a secluded turn off where you could drive right up to the bank of the river. I haven’t caught up to the end of the thread so disregard if already asked & answered. TIA!

Thank you for explaining this, it was very helpful.

It would be nice to see a map and/or ariel view of it as I'm guessing I'm not the only one who has problems with Google maps, etc. (or at least I hope I'm not the only one, lol). Heck, I have problems even getting the little man to walk along to view a neighborhood/area. I can drag him and drop him to area I want to view but then I can't get him to go where I need to go and I really get myself into a jam when I come to an intersection and try to get him to turn right or left, lol!

We used to have several posters who were very good at the maps and it helped for those of us who are not from the areas and have probably not been there either.

But again, I thank you for the information you provided as I've got a better picture of it now in my mind!
 
Why would Barry go right to the scene of the bike and not the house???

I don't find it odd that he went directly to the bike site. He had already called a friend to go over to the house and report on what was going on. So he knew that the bike had been found and that LE was clustered there, where they assumed Suzanne was last. Why would he go to the house when there was an active search for his missing wife just a few hundred yards away? He would likely have seen the many LE vehicles over in that direction.

BBM I’ve thought about that too. How did he know exactly where to go?

RSBM

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that when BM turned off Hwy 50 toward his home, that first stretch of road before the turn, is where they are saying the bike was found. So he would have driven right to it even if he intended to go home, and as 10ofRods says, would have seen the SAR vehicles, crowd, etc. even if he didn't already know where the bike was found

Unfortunately the mountain lion has a good head start....God knows he could be in Canada by now...

Or maybe Knoxville, Tennessee? The search is on for a tiger spotted in a Knoxville, Tennessee industrial park - CNN
 
Today marks 4-month since #SuzanneMorphew disappeared. Chaffee Co. Sheriff released a statement: "We are handing out flyers with Suzanne’s picture and info in hopes of more public awareness. Our sole purpose is to either find Suzanne or determine the cause of her disappearance...

..Our investigative team would like nothing more than to disseminate information to the public in regards to our progress in this process however in any open investigation we cannot divulge any information as it puts the integrity of the investigation at risk." #FindSuzanne
https://twitter.com/laurenscharftv/status/1304168550664372224?s=21
I think they should put out fliers of Barry's truck and maybe a photo of his truck pulling a Bobcat. JMO
 
I actually forgot today was the 4 month anniversary of Suzanne being reported missing. If Barry is serious about this mountain lion theory, perhaps he could make an offering in the form of Sheba cat food. I think that brand is fitting, as the commercial stars an apparently sociopathic mom who only cares about her cats and not her injured son.

“Mom I fell.”

“There’s bandages in the cabinet” [strokes cat].

“I’m bleeding.”

“Grab two.”
:p:D:DI love that ad.
 
In today’s CCSO press release it’s mentioned flyers of SM will be handed out again. IMO, that tells *me* there’s a possibility SM was alive somewhere away from her house either on Saturday or Sunday (5/9 or 5/10). If she was murdered in her home, as an example, how would a flyer of her really help now?

Is LE hoping someone will remember seeing her alone or with someone? Whether it’s a passenger in BM’s truck, another person, on a bike (I know, I know) walking a trail, etc.?

I’m not suggesting she’s alive, tragically I don’t believe she is and think this is a foul play case.

I’m just thrown off by the flyer hangout again and how it will help.

Curious what others think.

IMO
 
okay so i wasnt going to be this guy, but i am this guy so why fight it? First I want to say everyone entitled to their own opinion and I respect everyone's thoughts. Im merely the provider of adult missing person cases data. So to graduate we have to write a 10,000 word research paper on a topic. I chose adult missing persons cases (and imo its on the same level of one of picassos paintings) ive looked at the law, and policy, and just as general rule LE doesnt not care about adult missing persons, and legally they have no obligation to. (now this varies state to state and jurisdiction to jurisdiction.) but at the federal level theres not a single law that requires LE to investigate adult missing persons over the age of 21.

Adults can and are allowed to leave if they want so their not considered high priority. LE has to take the report when its filed (its illegal for them to make you wait to file, no law prevents it) HOWEVER theres no procedures or legal standards that require them to take action. It usually gets pushed off a few days to see if the person shows up. This is the worst possible things that can happen because the first 48 hours after someone goes missing are the most important. statically if they arent found within that time frame they are likely dead and whats worse is wait to start the investigation causes important evidence to be lost or ruined (ie the preservation of a crime scene) . The National Crime Information Center (NCIC) reports over 600,000 people are reported missing each year and thankfully a majority of these are solved but Adult individuals over the age of 21, accounted for roughly 48,642, or 56 percent, of current open missing person cases. I mean how many missing persons do we hear about a year? a few dozen maybe? but the reality is at any given time in thiss country their are 48,642 missing adults and a majority of them arent being looked for.

The media coverage in SM's case is probably falling with the top 2% of all adult missing person cases. (and im in no way saying it shouldnt be, no person deserves to be forgotten, every person deserve this much coverage but its just an impossibility) Most missing perons get to mention a few times on the news and get a few article but that it. And sadly the data shows these spots are typically reserved for upper-middle class/middle class white men and women from good families. It your poor, if your a person of color, if youve ever done a drug or made a mistake your cases is statically proven to get much less coverage AND when these cases are covered the media speaks about the victims in a way that suggest their choices lead to the situation (aka they are less worthy of finding) which leads LE and the community, in general, to feel less of a sense or urgency to find them. White women, however, are categorically described as victims in need of rescue

LE is not required to federally report adult missing persons to NCIC, or ViCAP, or to submit DNA to codic. this is left up to the states to handle and unfortunately, that can mean theres inconsistency in procedures and theirs no real consequence to the LE agency if they forget. Adults dont get Amber alerts,the programs establish by non-profits are less funded and well put together then the resources provided to le and family members of adult missing persons. , and their case as a whole are not prioritized as much as other crimes. LE is usually so busy they just dont have the time or resources to continue making these cases a priority long term and they have no model or roadmap for how to best utilize what they do have. so sadly alot of people just get forgotten. IMO its not right, these families deserve answers and no one, and i mean no one deserves to just be forgotten. However, given the limitations of the current system, these are unfortunate realities. Im really not okay with, im horrified acually and its like a lesser known secret that this happens pretty often. The cases that keep LE attention over time are usually only done so as a result of a loved one that resfuses to give up.

All that being said I have no idea what LE has done in SMs case or how through they were, but I can tell you they took the case seriously and they acted right away. Thats invaluable to finding SM and ensuring evidence is collected and sadly there are a decent amount of agencies that dont feel that same sense of urgency when they get a report. I know theyve gotten multiple warrants and they've conduct multiple searches and their working with the support of the FBI. Their taking this case seriously, following up on leads. There behavior reflects that their acting with SMs best interest in mind. We probably wont know how much hey did do or if more could have been done for a while, but there not giving up on SM. Thee not letting her become an afterthought and to me thats significant because unfortunately that doesnt happen or most missing people. SM absolutely deserve the attention. and these should be standard operating procedures but for a variety of reasons their not. and every one is 100% justified in being frustrated, logically is seems impossible that theres nothing they can share or that theres no way the public can help, but their working every day on this cases and for that fact alone I believe, at least for now their actions have earned the benefit of the doubt and IMO There are over 40,000 other missing person case sitting in some officer gathering dust and being ignored that back that up.

Its still frustrating AF but i think if we look at SMs case in terms of how adult missing person cases are handled across the country, LE in this cases is doing pretty good (and i by no means am criticizing LE there are a variety of factors at play here often well out of the investigator's hands:) Now I know what your thinking, isnt still doing their job the bare minimum they should be doing? heck yeah, its sad and we absolutely need reforms here but the current acceptable standard nationwide is much much lower. I personally find this to be appalling and cleary its an issue im passionate about. I hope i didnt come of preachy, not at all my intent just wanted to highlight the extremely depressing realities. sorry for bringing mood ruining vibe I just thought it might be helpful to have context as to wildly inadequate laws and procedures :) thank you for coming to my ted talk

Excellent summary as to the current state of affairs with missing persons in the USA.

I hope you got/get an "A" on your paper because I think you nailed it with your research.

Personally for this case, I am happy that LE puts out their monthly updates that at least reminds us they are actively working the case. That is more than we get in some other cases when the case seems to get a little on the cold side of things.
JMO

Lets hope LE is still waiting on some important test results to come back to wrap up the case, or better yet, lets hope they find Suzanne.
 
In today’s CCSO press release it’s mentioned flyers of SM will be handed out again. IMO, that tells *me* there’s a possibility SM was alive somewhere away from her house either on Saturday or Sunday (5/9 or 5/10). If she was murdered in her home, as an example, how would a flyer of her really help now?

Is LE hoping someone will remember seeing her alone or with someone? Whether it’s a passenger in BM’s truck, another person, on a bike (I know, I know) walking a trail, etc.?

I’m not suggesting she’s alive, tragically I don’t believe she is and think this is a foul play case.

I’m just thrown off by the flyer hangout again and how it will help.

Curious what others think.

IMO
Keeping SMs face and name out in the public is the best way to ensure her case stays active. you never know what a photo can job and once people stop caring about a case, resources and time commited to it swiftly follow IMO
 
In today’s CCSO press release it’s mentioned flyers of SM will be handed out again. IMO, that tells *me* there’s a possibility SM was alive somewhere away from her house either on Saturday or Sunday (5/9 or 5/10). If she was murdered in her home, as an example, how would a flyer of her really help now?

Is LE hoping someone will remember seeing her alone or with someone? Whether it’s a passenger in BM’s truck, another person, on a bike (I know, I know) walking a trail, etc.?

I’m not suggesting she’s alive, tragically I don’t believe she is and think this is a foul play case.

I’m just thrown off by the flyer hangout again and how it will help.

Curious what others think.

IMO
I wondered if it's to jog someone's conscience. Also in case anyone remembers an event in the recent past which may be relevant.

I often think flyers are an odd strategy. Mostly I think they just keep momentum going really.
 
Keeping SMs face and name out in the public is the best way to ensure her case stays active. you never know what a photo can job and once people stop caring about a case, resources and time commited to it swiftly follow IMO

Yeah, I absolutely get that but believe it’s a rubber stamp answer to a degree.

It’s entirely possible I’m overthinking it.

IMO
 
In today’s CCSO press release it’s mentioned flyers of SM will be handed out again. IMO, that tells *me* there’s a possibility SM was alive somewhere away from her house either on Saturday or Sunday (5/9 or 5/10). If she was murdered in her home, as an example, how would a flyer of her really help now?

Is LE hoping someone will remember seeing her alone or with someone? Whether it’s a passenger in BM’s truck, another person, on a bike (I know, I know) walking a trail, etc.?

I’m not suggesting she’s alive, tragically I don’t believe she is and think this is a foul play case.

I’m just thrown off by the flyer hangout again and how it will help.

Curious what others think.

IMO

No flyers hanging in the Sheriff’s office. Maybe they ran out. I wonder if there’s one up today.
 
I wondered if it's to jog someone's conscience. Also in case anyone remembers an event in the recent past which may be relevant.

I often think flyers are an odd strategy. Mostly I think they just keep momentum going really.

I thought about this as well. It’s appealing to a single person, maybe more than one. Humanizing her, she was real, come forward. IMO
 
In this investigation resources were called in to assist with numerous searches. These resources have included Chaffee SAR South and North, The Colorado Department of Corrections S.O.R.T Team, the CBI Crime Scene Investigation Team, FBI Evidence Response Team, Chaffee County Combined Tactical Team, Salida Fire Department Swift Water Rescue Team, Colorado Parks and Wildlife, Salida Police Department, Buena Vista Police Department, Pueblo County Sheriff’s Office Dive Rescue Team, Colorado State Patrol, El Paso County SAR Dog Team, Fremont County SAR Dog Team, Reach Air Medical Service, FBI Aviation Support Team, Necro Search International, Elizabeth Police Dog Team, Colorado Department of Corrections East Canon Tracking Team and the SAR Board of Colorado, which includes numerous SAR teams from around the state.

These guys are mentioned in the press release today from the CCSO:

"NecroSearch International Inc. is a 501(c)3 volunteer multidisciplinary team of specialists dedicated to assisting law enforcement in the location of clandestine graves and the documentation and recovery of evidence (including human remains).
https://necrosearch.org/
:mad:
 
Notice the press release still doesn’t warn the public of possible danger lurking.

Because LE knows who the probable culprit is, and it’s not a big cat or some stranger snatching random women off bicycles.

They just need to be able to prove it. Keep BM talking and digging a deeper hole.
JMO
 
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