Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #41

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Puzzles8 said:
If AM spent the night guarding a small tree, I feel there would be photos of it, many of them. I'm not at all suggesting that AM wouldn't be willing to do that, but it sounds like he was given reassurance that bigger guns were on the way. At least I hope that's what's happening.

DM photographers have all of those nifty high powered zoom lenses. That would be a very emotional photo.
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The problem is I think the DM and others moved on - we don't have any pictures that I have found of him by the tree.
JMO
 
GordianKnot said:
Rather than tarring all of LE with a single, pre-stained brush, how 'bout if we stick to the specifics of this case?

And in this case, this Sheriff DOES have prior LE experience.
Loads of it, including 27 years in a major metropolitan police force (Denver):
About Sheriff John Spezze - Chaffee County Sheriff

Also, last time I checked, WS is a LE-friendly site.

I'll trust LE over a SM channel any day of the week.

JMO.
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The PE guys have years of LE experience. Why are you pitting one against the other?
We are LE friendly also! But not ALL are honest.
 
I can't make the leap that a seasoned and experienced sheriff with over 25 years under their belt would just handwave away any legitimate lead or possible crime scene. That would go against every bit of training and prior case experiences.

I have no idea what's going on or why, but I'm not going to assume the Sheriff is incompetent or derelict in his responsibilities in general or in this case specifically until there's something real and documented. I know there are bad LE out there in the world because we've seen that over the decades. I'm not automatically going to throw anyone into that category without some evidence, just like I wouldn't suggest an individual is guilty of murder without seeing evidence.

Complaints on youtube or elsewhere are not valid to me without clear documentation, and so far I've seen a lot of emotion, but I haven't seen any evidence the Sheriff doesn't care or is derelict in his job. IMO
 
Jo in Calif said:
I'm with you. Now we have a time line, which one.
#5.
I'll take the pink bike.
BM said AM was doing this for a publicity stunt, he named the wrong ring leader.
IMO
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MOO, Is there any way to make decaying elk carcass smell like human remains, the shrine is just too much for me to accept!
 
swedeheart said:
well, looks like the people are speaking up. and they are NOT happy. did spezze's name disappear from yesterday's post?

Chaffee County Sheriff's Office
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We may see comments disabled or the entire post deleted - this is really reminding me of the Boulder investigation - sorry all. I am very confused why they can say there is nothing there (where the dogs hit) when they didn't go to the site? Maybe they are there today - not like we have a reporter onsite that will tell us though
JMO
 
Madeleine74 said:
I can't make the leap that a seasoned and experienced sheriff with over 25 years under their belt would just handwave away any legitimate lead or possible crime scene. That would go against every bit of training and prior case experiences.

I have no idea what's going on or why, but I'm not going to assume the Sheriff is incompetent or derelict in his responsibilities in general or in this case specifically until there's something real and documented.

Complaints on youtube or elsewhere are not valid to me without clear documentation, and so far I've seen a lot of emotion, but I haven't seen any evidence the Sheriff doesn't care or is derelict in his job. IMO
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I agree we haven’t seen that from the Sheriff.

In fact we haven’t seen anything from the Sheriff.
 
Dre said:
I think Mike and Chris would <modsnip> one night's amount of viewers for the integrity of the case if they were asked to do so. MOO
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But if that is what they were up to, then it seems counterproductive that CM would have urged people in the area to go near those sites and take photos of what is or is not happening at them.
 
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Hatfield said:
I tend to agree and what I am gathering is that he must have a certain person on his staff write up his summaries because up until now, I have been overall pleased with his updates because at least he gave them periodically to try to ensure the public they have not forgotten Suzanne and are still working the case. In some other cases we dont even get comments or updates like that.

But with how his name was pulled from the recent updates, I now feel he has a staff writer writing them up for him so I am not as thrilled about the updates anymore. Just speculating of course about that.

Here is my take on some of what we are seeing as lack of action on their parts.

From the very beginning, the sheriff indicated he and other LE was not the ones organizing this search and they would only be available in a support role because of liability reasons I believe was even mentioned in one of the updates. That is fair enough to me and I think that was LE's intent going into this.

Since then, as the days progressed, I think what has happened is a lot of little things were brought to them as possible evidence and it quickly overloaded them when combined with the places where dogs are "hitting". I think local LE underestimated the amount of resources they would need on hand to handle anything the search teams felt was important. That is on them because it has been obvious from the very beginning that it would take some resources to handle this large search group and anything they felt should be looked at. They should have known it would take quite a few resources to manage.

So what I think has happened as this last dog "hit" where AM was by himself, LE did not treat it as seriously as they should and because of the way the PE YT fellows have communicated their displeasure, it has grown legs for the public that follow them. I am not a fan of the tactics being shown from the PE group (like all the hints of new news to come to keep us guessing) but I do appreciate their real concern and real emotions to want to solve this case. Sometimes we have to take the good with the bad.

All of this sort of thing was easy to see coming. A better plan from local LE to manage the search group may have alleviated some of the public's perception of them. They can still turn this around but in order to do so, they cannot continue to ignore it and stay silent. Just do the small things that are expected of them and should not be a problem for them.

Because just as if a total stranger found something and brought it to their attention, the same goes for our searchers on the ground. They should be treated no differently than any other person finding potential evidence. LE can repair most of the damage if they would just be honest and upfront and that begins with explaining why they did not at least go out to look at the scene where AM was by himself.
All JMO of course
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It is puzzling to me that all the evidence from the searches seems to come from one person...or maybe I missed something, the bluff was probably not, tho. I guess he probably has been floating between the different teams, still puzzling. Jmvho
 
Dre said:
I think Mike and Chris would piss off one night's amount of viewers for the integrity of the case if they were asked to do so. MOO
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It seems that based on previous episodes, PE believe BM and/or some of his cronies watch the show.

So if this was all theater last night, I’d guess it’s so LE can see either communications or physical movement of these people reacting to the thought that LE isn’t taking those sites seriously.
 
I believe we can all agree we can keep our knives out for BM or the sheriff or PE or whoever independently, without using a knife on one another here.

We have good WS members and I learn so much from all of you. And I have had to change my mind more than once.

I’m angry because I want Suzanne found.I do not believe the guys from PE would destroy the show last night “for the integrity of the case”.

So I think we can all agree with the way Mike from PE ended the video last night by saying Andy shouldn’t have had to go through this and one person could have prevented it. Then he said “And you know who you are.”
 
Liltxtrndo said:
Any job/project Barry Morphew does should be on file in that city or county municipality...I used to work for a large municipality here in TX, as p&z clerk and admin to code enforcement and the only way you get to pull permits is if you are a registered contractor...and here, if you are not registered then you of course can't pull permits which means no inspection ..as so on. City hall will have his jobs in that city/county on file, along with permits he pulled for each. And it's all under his name or dba....
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I don't think BM is an actual contractor. He's a landscaper. Landscapers do work all the time without a permit. Planting grass and trees does not generally require a permit. Raking sand does not generally require a permit.

Typically, a contractor who is building a house, who plans to change the slope of a plot or whatever pulls the permit - not the subcontracting landscaper who comes in just to pretty things up or build a retaining wall. Typically, the original architects/designers put in plans for retaining walls and then later, when it's time to build it, get a subcontractor.

If anyone can find a shred of evidence that BM was ever (in Indiana or Colorado) an actual contractor, that would be great, because when I to go to look into it, I find nothing - only a number of DBA's in which BM states what he does (commercial and residential landscaping, but not routine grass mowing).
 
EggSalad said:
This is the first morning since the search started that there has been no social media (twitter) posts showing the volunteers assembling and the day kicking off.

Now I get that this is the last day and there probably aren’t many searchers left but you’d think there would be some coverage. But no.
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I hate that this is all happening on the last day of the search! I wonder if Andy will stay longer now until those sites are addressed? It will be hard for him to leave when he could be that close to finding Suzanne. CCSO would probably give him an escort out of town right about now! I know his Dad is not doing well but I hope he can stay and see this through. What a dilemma!

Praying that something is happening right now to facilitate getting these sites excavated!! Maybe Andy was able to get some help from the Senator? I feel like Chris will be helping behind the scenes with his advice and connections. And hopefully they are only awaiting warrants to begin digging. It was alarming to hear that the FBI just left the sites unsecured though. That does not seem like a good sign.

Three different sites with cadaver dog hits is perplexing but maybe she has been moved multiple times? The rocks around the little tree look placed and very similar to BM’s landscaping style. One of the rocks on top looks like a heart. I’m not clear where this site is located but it sounds like it’s near BM’s property line. The non passive hits at the beach rock wall should not be ignored either especially since MG was told to rake the beach area Saturday morning 5/9 and she said BM was acting so weird AND the loud noise reported by the neighbor. But the site with the most potential IMO is the LHR lot. Multiple hits by several cadaver dogs on different days. It’s in a new subdivision that looks isolated and mostly empty since new construction has barely begun. BM owns the lot and can control every aspect of construction on it and put a concrete foundation right over Suzanne’s remains if he buried her there. And BM purchased that lot very quickly ... “too soon”!

Please let today be the day Suzanne is found and the cuffs are snapped on BM!! It’s time!
 
10ofRods said:
I don't think BM is an actual contractor. He's a landscaper. Landscapers do work all the time without a permit. Planting grass and trees does not generally require a permit. Raking sand does not generally require a permit.

Typically, a contractor who is building a house, who plans to change the slope of a plot or whatever pulls the permit - not the subcontracting landscaper who comes in just to pretty things up or build a retaining wall. Typically, the original architects/designers put in plans for retaining walls and then later, when it's time to build it, get a subcontractor.

If anyone can find a shred of evidence that BM was ever (in Indiana or Colorado) an actual contractor, that would be great, because when I to go to look into it, I find nothing - only a number of DBA's in which BM states what he does (commercial and residential landscaping, but not routine grass mowing).
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Speaking of contractor status and perhaps asked and answered but has a search been completed at the RTD retaining wall project BM alleged to have worked on in Broomfield? Considering the chlorine smell at Puma Path also noted at the Broomfield hotel, did Barry do some fill work at the retaining wall and have cadaver dogs been dispatched to that location?
 
MingyMoo said:
I would like to take a slightly different approach to the SM case, it is possibly one that wont be taken seriously. I am doing a flip side of the coin open mind and all of that.

We know from previous reports SM had beaten Cancer at least twice, I am not sure if any of us know her state of health immediately prior to her disappearance and certainly wouldn’t encourage even trying to find out.

I know from personal experience Mothers do a lot to hide personal illness from Children and various family members, just so as they don’t worry, can get on with their life as normally as possible. That is what Mums do.

I am not so sure I like all this out and out Barry Blaming. STOP! just there let me finish my splurge. My theory is as good as anyone else's

I don’t mean I think he BM doesn’t know what happened to SM because In my personal opinion I think he probably does. Which is why he won’t partake in dysfunctional lie detector test or voice thingies

I just think there may be a hint of a different compassionate reason as to why he knows which perhaps hasn’t been explored properly.

Do I think he buried her in that awful barron property location near an airport where she could be dug up again absolutely not.

Do I think he scattered/buried her remains at a neighbours home and got a colleague to rake it flat No I don't.

Do I think the tree is significant, well that is depending on where the tree is

Do I believe in cadaver dogs yes I Do but it doesn’t mean it has anything to do with the SM case. They can tell you the scent is there but not who it belongs to. Blimey for all we know Andy's searchers have pulled up three different crime
scenes not connected to his Sister

Do i think BM helped SM I think I am possibly open to that concept

Do I believe that SM remains are in Colorado? No my gut instinct tells me she is close to home in Indiana.

Do I think she is dead? Realistically yes I do.

Do I think BM is totally guilty? Well that depends on the motive for now I sit on a fence.
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I think your theory is as good as any other theory. It wouldn't be the first time someone who has fought so hard to stay alive just can't do it anymore. Can't go through another bout of chemo. Can't see the light at the end of the tunnel anymore. Acceptance sometimes can be braver than fighting, especially for a person of faith.
 
TomSongs said:
Speaking of contractor status and perhaps asked and answered but has a search been completed at the RTD retaining wall project BM alleged to have worked on in Broomfield? Considering the chlorine smell at Puma Path also noted at the Broomfield hotel, did Barry do some fill work at the retaining wall and have cadaver dogs been dispatched to that location?
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We don’t know, but I think it’s a safe bet.

Reports say that CBI seized video from businesses around the hotel, as well as the hotel itself.

It would be natural to check out the job site, as according to MG in her interview with Lauren, it did appear to her that Barry had gone to that location and done a small amount of work.
 
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