Unless we want to believe all is made up ,i think some unusual stuff is happening:
Of course the knocking etc on windows
Odd stalker pic, if it was someone innocent why not come forward?
suspicious death
Odd writing on lawn
Gnome stolen
I still find the neighbors video odd
car scratched
trash gone
Oh there may be more but i thinks that's a lot for a small little neighborhood
If you were a neighbor who had come out to see what was up and heard that someone felt your image was the photo of a stalker, would you mention you were there? Especially when at least three people in that very neighborhood have been named as possible suspects?
I think the car was scratched at Morgan's college, some time before the stalking began.
What neighbor's video?
I'm coming out of lurkdom too. This case is a real puzzler, but I have no doubt that Morgan was stalked.
I am reading posts where people say the stalker's behaviour makes no sense, etc. But stalkers don't think the way a normal person does. I was stalked by a neighbour for five years- everything I did to try and stop him, make him back down, only escalated the behaviour. I swear he got a thrill every time the police showed up to talk to him. So I can easily see Morgan's stalker getting a thrill watching LE come and go, and not catching sight of him.
Stalking does wear you down- it's truly horrible, you never get a minute's peace and it totally changes the way you view the world. I just feel terrible for Morgan and her family, because I know how it feels to live with that 'siege mentality' constantly. Also, the stalker may be so surreptitious that it's only really the person being stalked that knows just how bad it is.
I'm not sure what I think just yet about how she died, but it does make me think of the Chris Jenkins case where LE insisted it was suicide or that he had stumbled into the river and drowned himself- but he hadn't, he had been murdered. Some very strange things happen, that look rather innocent or obvious on the surface, but in truth they are anything but. So I'm reserving judgement.
No one has said the stalker's behavior makes no sense. I have said that the stalker's behavior in possibly murdering Morgan, fits no known patterns. Other than that, people are saying that with all the protection around the house - the six cameras, motion detectors, keylocks, lights ablaze, dogs in the house, cops coming by 50 times, parents running around outside and a highly concerned neighbor, that: 1) the police have been unable, according to them, to find any evidence that a stalking even took place; 2) That the stalker could torment them for four months and then kill their daughter, breaking in the house to do so, without any detection, without ever being caught.
The stalking behavior makes sense. The circumstances do not.
I'm wondering how a killer would get that into her body....injection..maybe....but wouldn't they see and state that in the report. I guess a weapon pointed to her head would make her take them.?????
For some reason, I can't see Morgan quietly sitting there and taking poison being force fed her by the person who has terrorized her for months, gun or no gun, threats or no threats. I see her screaming and fighting for her life.
I know you all are probably tired of hearing me say this-but she has video of that night.She says there is someone on their running in between cars-We need to see this!
You are so right!
I tried to bring up one time how violent m's death would be on what she was ODed on ( suicide or murder) everything I found seems to lead me to believe it was a very violent death. Basically, you drown in your own spit while you are having seizure after seizure.
For some reason, it was bought to my attention that all drugs can cause this reaction. Maybe? But I was trying to explain how m *might* have died and what these drugs may cause.
IMO, doesn't really seem like the type you take, then just go to sleep, never to wake up again. I don't know many doctors that won't prescribe ambien to anybody. They are easy to get.
Personally, I ask myself if I Was going to kill myself, would I do it by grinding up A LOT of pills and drinking them, then adding more drugs to that....or would I just tell my dr. I couldn't sleep and get some ambien....or order if off the Internet??????
I've seen some post where maybe she borrowed from friends. Yeah, that's possible.....for a couple of pills. No person with pills (regular person or drug head) is going to give their whole pill supply to anybody. Maybe 3 or 4 at the most.
The most m's dr would have prescribed for ami is....maybe a 90 days supply, but usually 60 days. And there are a lot of insurance companies that won't pay for that long (mine will only do every 30 days) my hubby is diabetic insulin, and they will only give him a 60 day supply.
So...even if a friend gave m high doses of the meds....they would still be some what responsible for that criminal act. Giving meds that are prescribed to another person are illegal.
This is JMO of course.
I must state, each insurance company is different. Some will allow long term prescriptions.
I responded to you earlier post. Only 6% of ami OD victims suffer any seizures at all. Most just slip into a coma. According to your link.
Even the second opinion he stated undetermined.He couldnt come out and say murder. They need experts to come forth and state they think it was murder. Does anyone understand what Im saying from a legal aspect of what they are up against?
Okay- so lets say that LE was passing out flyers and were BOLO for a named suspect (obviously we don't have concrete proof of this but let's take it for fact for now). Could they have arrested anyone at this point for stalking? Is that arrestable?
If they were able to catch someone following Morgan's car- that isn't illegal or anything. Unless she has a order of protection I am not sure what they could have done to the suspect. Just a warning really. Then after so many "catches" she could get an order of protection, I am sure.
So I guess I am trying to figure out what the LE tactic was at this point for the stalker. They couldn't do much if they saw him except hang around and make sure he wasn't going to harm M.
Any one have any ideas (legally) about this?
If they caught the guy racing after Morgan, or driving too close, or running from her house or skulking around her after a report of stalking activity, yes, they could arrest him. It would be up to a DA, a judge and jury to determine after that if there was enough evidence to proceed with the case or convict.
Hmm, I assumed they were the same person, and thought the back light of the truck was on (also, it moved from one frame to the next)
But whether it's 1 second or 1 min. makes a big difference. I'm confused now...
The Ingrams would know this based on the settings of their camera. Someone should ask!
I also think she is incorrect when she says the stalker was leaning against the car. Why is he blurry then?
I think they said minutes.
I thought from the moment I saw the picture that this person was moving. And I think his head is turned to the left. I wonder who lives in that direction?
