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But covering for what? I will have to go back to look, but I believe that it's been mentioned before about Morgan spending the night at friends'. Mom knew Morgan was on birth control. I don't know that having her boyfriend over was something she had to cover up and hide from her parents.
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I agree. My sense from this family is that they would not be fussed by their 20 year old daughter having a monogamous, sexual relationship with a boyfriend. They seem somewhat earthy, not too conservative.
I lost a family member to suicide. No note either, but he did give away possessions and sell some too. There were signs he was depressed even though many close to him did not recognize it.
I think if Morgan was going to kill herself she would have had signs, that upon reflection, were obvious. Things that if family missed, friends would have caught. I don't mean just looking gaunt and tired which clearly could come from being stalked. She was young and would have had a hard time not crying, having over the top emotions, showing complete disinterest in life, etc. Morgan seemed to have a good relationship with her parents in that she could have expressed her feelings and received support. She didn't stop going to class, stop socializing, start coming home intoxicated, become preoccupied with death, lose interest in her hobbies and so on. In fact, despite what she was going thru she seemed to have a positive outlook and plans for her future.
Well, look, there are many, many cases where the family and friends of a suicide victim are completely blown away and never expected it, saw no signs, etc. This happens with young people too.
Further, we have not heard from any of Morgan's friends that she was totally happy and said nothing about depression, etc.
Respectfully, we don't know what LE did or didn't do.
Yes, but we know that they stated they investigated as a homicide first and then let the evidence take them where it did. So, they did an investigation. Was it shoddy? Sloppy? Biased? Could be. Could be they felt this poor family were malingerers or crazy and brushed through an investigation, having made up their minds early on, as to what they found. I kind of doubt the latter a bit because it was the coroner who later changed the report to suicide. His first finding was natural causes.
In any event, we don't have police reports or investigative notes, so we don't know what was done. We do have what the mom says was not done but she could be mistaken.
Hi y'all! :seeya:
I posted several questions for Morgan's family in the question thread for no-discussion but didn't want y'all to think I was being antisocial by not posting over here! I have been trying to catch up with all of you amazing sleuthers on these threads and just haven't had anything even remotely intelligent to add at this point. :blushing:
I think about this case all day long these days. I read the blog in one night (after seeing it posted here) and was so creeped out that I felt like I was reading a Dean Koontz book. I just have so many questions I want answers to. Just wondering if I am the only one wishing that the Forensic Astrology thread was still active? I admit that I have scoured the internet looking for anything on this case that could provide answers as to what happened to Morgan. Psychic blogs (without having an opinion as to whether or not I believe in psychics), message boards, etc. I know that TI is doing the best she can to relay information but I just want answers NOW so I can start understanding where she is coming from and why she feels the way she does. I am having such a hard time keeping up with all of the information so far that the only thing that I do have an opinion on is that I don't think that Morgan committed suicide. I can't really explain why I don't think so but I can't say either that I am looking at this case objectively because it is so different than any other case I have read about on WS.
All that to say, I wish we had more information and I hope TI understands how important it is to have the whole story. I understand that the way the blog has been written would be a marvelous way to reach others on the web and educate them about stalking IF a suspect had been apprehended or there was an ending that resulted in justice. However, this isn't the case and all I see is everyone going over the small amount of evidence being relayed without having a full picture and I find that to be a dangerous and unbalanced way of doing things. It is just so difficult to form an opinion without all of the information necessary.
Still praying for Morgan's sweet family. She was a beautiful girl and I hope we see resolution in this case in my lifetime in whatever way is meant to be (unlike so many of the cases I hold so personally dear to my heart that have provided no answers in many years!)
Oh my gosh, love your post and I hope you stay out of lurkdom here!!!!
I don't see anything unusual about this. I graduated from college 6 years ago (so not that terribly long) and pictures like that were very common in dorm rooms, on on doors, etc. I don't think it's that uncommon for the generation of girls who grew up with Disney princesses to still have a fondness for them in their twenties.
Neither do I. I don't think Morgan's poster had anything to do with her death or whether there was a stalking. Did her mother infantilize her? Smother her? Was she enmeshed with her daughter? Perhaps. But, just as I can't glean that there was a murder from the little we know, I don't think we can glean that there were those sorts of issues from what we know.
Lots of adults love things associated with childhood and lots of mothers see their adult kids as bitty babies still, no matter the age. They even had commercials during the olympics to that effect.
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I understand what you are saying, and it is worth asking!
However, we know that EMT's were there and LE that day. What we do not know is what they found, was was there or not there at that point. It seems it was a while before they were called? Was anything cleaned up?
Usually when it is what would appear to be a suicide, and 20 is a fairly average year for suicide if you look all the stats up, then there is nothing to investigate.
I'm certain if any investigations for any legal proceedings come up, EMTs and LE will be on record for what was and was not going on or there. In fact, any logs or paperwork should have already been requested and gathered. Questioning would be if any legal proceedings come up.
They stated, at least, that they investigated the case as a homicide first. i don't think LE concluded anything about Morgan's death until after the autopsy reports.