Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Emergency #5

[dixiegirl1035]

Can you provide a link please? Thank you.



Link please.

Are they positive or not?

ETA:

They are positive.. I posted above.. lemme retrieve and ETA brb

oh, you already got it nevermind, tx

 

[Windsorite]

This is what insurance is for.

I’ve read the fine print on my travel insurance and unless a government travel advisory is issued, without a doctor’s note
Should I choose not to go under these circumstances the best I can hope for is 50%
Of my money back. Even though they sell it as cancel for any reason.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Do we know if this has hit Mexico yet? I haven't seen anything, but may have missed it.

 

[Tadpole12]

Coronavirus latest news: British passengers left in limbo over Diamond Princess evacuation

Wrt Dear God...
The pastor Frank Henneman just gave me the willies.

 

[Medstudies]

US military issues executive order to prevent COVID-19 pandemic

American military leaders issued an executive order this week that mobilized the entire Department of Defense to prepare for a potential pandemic-level outbreak of the coronavirus COVID-19.

The order was referenced in memos sent out to Navy and Marine Corps officials this week, according to the Military Times. It includes plans to impose fourteen-day quarantines for servicemembers who recently traveled to China along with those who came into contact with them, as well as treatment plans for any confirmed cases.

“We are taking all appropriate precautionary measures to prevent any potential spread of the virus,” U.S. Forces Korea commander Army General Robert Abrams said last week, per Military Times. “Key for everyone is to follow standard hygiene protocols, and if not feeling well — get screened ASAP!”

 

[Medstudies]

The one thing this virus is showing me is his selfish people now are.


Now don’t get me wrong I can be selfish as I’m sure my parents will tell you but there are limits to it. So many people are so self entitled now and this really shows when you see something like this happening.


IMO

like this joker?!

Oregon comedian breaks quarantine, flies back home

 

[margarita25]

Do we know if this has hit Mexico yet? I haven't seen anything, but may have missed it.

Nothing yet that I’ve heard, knock on wood.

 

[Tadpole12]

Today's WHO situation report is out. Wasn't home to do today's meeting, if there was one

https://www.who.int/docs/default-so...00219-sitrep-30-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=6e50645_2

WHO is working with an international network of statisticians and mathematical modelers to estimate key epidemiologic parameters of COVID-19, such as the incubation period (the time between infection and symptom onset), case fatality ratio (CFR, the proportion of cases that die), and the serial interval(the time between symptom onset of a primary and secondary case). Reports of current analyses that have estimated these parameters are provided in this Situation Report as a summary of currently available evidence. These values should be considered preliminary and parameters will likely be updated as more information becomes available. Modelling can support decision-making but needs to be combined with rigorous data collection and a comprehensive analysis of the situation. Please see the Subject in Focus section for more information.....

The confirmed case fatality ratio,or CFR,is the total number of deaths divided by the total number of confirmed cases at one point in time. Within China, the confirmed CFR, as reported by the Chinese Centerfor Disease Control and Prevention,9is 2.3%.....However, it is too early to draw conclusions as to whether there are real differences in the CFR inside and outside of China, as final outcome data (that is, who will recover and who will die) for the majority of cases reported from outside China are not yet known. .......

Modeling is a helpful tool to try to account for missed cases, such as those that are mild cases potentially missed in current surveillance activities, and the time lag between onset and death. Using an estimated number of total infections, the Infection Fatality Ratio can be calculated. This represents the fraction of all infections (both diagnosed and undiagnosed) that result in death. Based on these available analyses, current IFR estimates10,11,12range from 0.3% to 1%. Without population-based serologic studies, it is not yet possible to know what proportion of the population has been infected with COVID-19. Modeling has also been used to estimate the impact of the 23 January, 2020 Wuhan travel ban on reducing transmission both inside and outside of China.13,14According to these models, travel restrictions alone are projected to have only a modest effect on the progression of the outbreak; they would need to be combined with other public health interventions, such as early case isolation, other forms of mobility restrictions, social distancing and population-level behavioral changes to be effective.

Visual below (Dear China.....) from report also. NOTE: Does not include 79 cases from Princess this am US time.

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BBC describes the repatriation as the next wave of transmission.

 

[Henry2326]

I was thinking just less than an hour ago... who was the WS'er that posted the military implementation order. It was you I remember now. I cannot find the original order, perhaps you posted. But I do recall (if my memory serves me) that the SPECIFIC order expired February 20th. Tomorrow. Has another been issued?

I've searched for that order which was declassified, and I can't locate to link but I'm 99.999999% positive it expired tomorrow and wanted to see a new one.

Here ya go.....

READ IT: U.S. Military Issues Coronavirus Containment Plan Orders

 

[Windsorite]

Coronavirus fears prompt neighbors of California mom, daughter in self-quarantine to call cops

“I’m just frustrated and angry and upset,” said Amy Deng, 45, who is under self-quarantine with her daughter in their Santa Rosa, Calif., home.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) assessed Deng and her 8-year-old daughter Daisy’s risk as “medium.” They were forced into 14-day self-quarantine as a result.

Daisy, a fourth-grader, cannot attend school; her parents, who are recently divorced, have taken to homeschooling her in the meantime.

Deng, who is originally from China but has been an American citizen since 2012, claims a neighbor called the police on them out of fears her daughter would spread the virus after seeing Daisy get into the car with her father, who is not required to self-monitor for the virus.

It says the parents are recently divorced, I’m assuming there may be a visitation order, it might be as simple as the child doing her self quarantine at both parents homes.

 

[Medstudies]

U.S. Officials Confirm 29 Cases of COVID-19 in U.S. After Cruise Ship Evacuees Return Home

(TIME- 2/18/2020)

“We are proactively planning now to prevent further spread in the United States,” U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar told CNN on Friday. He added that the department is working with state and local governments and with the private sector to prepare. “So far we’re seeing very limited impact here in the United States, but that could change at any time.”

“The CDC said in a statement on Tuesday that there are more than 100 American citizens still on board the cruise ship or in hospitals in Japan and that all passengers and crew still in Japan cannot return to the U.S. for at least 14 days after leaving the quarantined ship. The CDC specified that these citizens will only be allowed to fly back to the U.S. if they test negative for and don’t show any symptoms of the virus during the 14-day period.”

Idk about you all, but personally, I would’ve been like Kevin McCallister’s mom in Home Alone.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Whistleblower doctors say coronavirus reinfection even deadlier

Chinese doctors say the illness could be even deadlier for patients who catch it again, according to a report.

The whistleblowing physicians working to fight the virus in Wuhan revealed medically-cleared patients have been getting reinfected, the Taiwan News reported.

“It’s highly possible to get infected a second time,” one of the doctors, who declined to be identified, told the outlet.

The physician said that medication used to treat the virus can have negative side effects on patients’ heart tissue, making them more susceptible to cardiac arrest.

“A few people recovered from the first time by their own immune system, but the meds [sic] they use are damaging their heart tissue, and when they get it the second time, the antibody doesn’t help but makes it worse, and they die a sudden death from heart failure,” the doctor said.

The doc added that the virus has “outsmarted all of us” since he says it’s able to hide symptoms for up to 24 days — which contradicts current guidance which says the incubation period is two weeks.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Coronavirus Epidemic Update 21: Antibodies, Case Fatality, Clinical Recommendations, 2nd Infections?

 

[Pi Thoughts]

Do we know if this has hit Mexico yet? I haven't seen anything, but may have missed it.

This is a week old news but haven’t heard of any.

MEXICO CITY (Border Report) — No one in Mexico has tested positive for the coronavirus, but one person remains under observation, Mexico’s health undersecretary said today.

“We have no cases of the new coronavirus. We had 11 suspected cases, but all (tested negative),” Undersecretary Hugo Lopez Gatell told reporters in Mexico City.
Mexico in Brief: 11 suspected coronavirus cases turn out negative

 

[Henry2326]

like this joker?!

Oregon comedian breaks quarantine, flies back home

What a fool.....

 

[margarita25]

I’ve read the fine print on my travel insurance and unless a government travel advisory is issued, without a doctor’s note
Should I choose not to go under these circumstances the best I can hope for is 50%
Of my money back. Even though they sell it as cancel for any reason.

There was a member here, I thiiink it was @BetteDavisEyes (if not @Betty P , it was a “Betty”, iirc) who was able to cancel and receive a full refund. Maybe she can provide some helpful input. Sorry I can’t recall the member atm.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

It says the parents are recently divorced, I’m assuming there may be a visitation order, it might be as simple as the child doing her self quarantine at both parents homes.

That's not quarantine. If she's infected and having contact with someone who is not quarantined, it could have devastating consequences.

 

[Tadpole12]

The one thing this virus is showing me is his selfish people now are.


Now don’t get me wrong I can be selfish as I’m sure my parents will tell you but there are limits to it. So many people are so self entitled now and this really shows when you see something like this happening.


IMO

Civic duty is a thing of the past.

 

[Henry2326]

Today's WHO situation report is out. Wasn't home to do today's meeting, if there was one

https://www.who.int/docs/default-so...00219-sitrep-30-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=6e50645_2

WHO is working with an international network of statisticians and mathematical modelers to estimate key epidemiologic parameters of COVID-19, such as the incubation period (the time between infection and symptom onset), case fatality ratio (CFR, the proportion of cases that die), and the serial interval(the time between symptom onset of a primary and secondary case). Reports of current analyses that have estimated these parameters are provided in this Situation Report as a summary of currently available evidence. These values should be considered preliminary and parameters will likely be updated as more information becomes available. Modelling can support decision-making but needs to be combined with rigorous data collection and a comprehensive analysis of the situation. Please see the Subject in Focus section for more information.....

The confirmed case fatality ratio,or CFR,is the total number of deaths divided by the total number of confirmed cases at one point in time. Within China, the confirmed CFR, as reported by the Chinese Centerfor Disease Control and Prevention,9is 2.3%.....However, it is too early to draw conclusions as to whether there are real differences in the CFR inside and outside of China, as final outcome data (that is, who will recover and who will die) for the majority of cases reported from outside China are not yet known. .......

Modeling is a helpful tool to try to account for missed cases, such as those that are mild cases potentially missed in current surveillance activities, and the time lag between onset and death. Using an estimated number of total infections, the Infection Fatality Ratio can be calculated. This represents the fraction of all infections (both diagnosed and undiagnosed) that result in death. Based on these available analyses, current IFR estimates10,11,12range from 0.3% to 1%. Without population-based serologic studies, it is not yet possible to know what proportion of the population has been infected with COVID-19. Modeling has also been used to estimate the impact of the 23 January, 2020 Wuhan travel ban on reducing transmission both inside and outside of China.13,14According to these models, travel restrictions alone are projected to have only a modest effect on the progression of the outbreak; they would need to be combined with other public health interventions, such as early case isolation, other forms of mobility restrictions, social distancing and population-level behavioral changes to be effective.

Visual below (Dear China.....) from report also. NOTE: Does not include 79 cases from Princess this am US time.

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For me, this is the most important learning.....wow oh wow....

Modeling has also been used to estimate the impact of the 23 January, 2020 Wuhan travel ban on reducing transmission both inside and outside of China.13,14. According to these models, travel restrictions alone are projected to have only a modest effect on the progression of the outbreak; they would need to be combined with other public health interventions, such as early case isolation, other forms of mobility restrictions, social distancing and population-level behavioral changes to be effective.

 

[MJPeony]

I find this absurd, if they were that worried..don’t fly.

“Two passengers have been spotted on an Aussie flight wrapped in plastic sheets in an attempt to protect themselves from the coronavirus.

A fellow passenger shared a video of the couple on social media yesterday, showing their homemade plastic wrap suits. The couple, who were on board a flight from Sydney to Hamilton Island off the coast of Queensland, were also wearing surgical gloves and face masks.”
RUSH HOUR: Couple spotted wrapped in plastic sheets on flight

Well, on one hand I find it absurd, but on the other hand- we don’t know why they had to fly. Might not have just been because of a vacation that they didn’t want to cancel. Could have been for any manner of reasons where they didn’t feel like they had the ability to just cancel (responsibility to relative, employment, other affairs, etc).

Also, speaking as someone who was just flying (scenario where I could not just “cancel), and had pretty high anxiety myself, the fear can be real when you’re actually in a major airport right now and inside a plane with people coughing and sneezing. So while I find the plastic wrap over the top, I have a hard time judging them because some people have higher anxiety issues.

Also- side note, but I find the fellow passenger who took that video and posted it to be really out of line. Violates their privacy IMO. These people are dealing with severe anxiety and I feel like it makes fun of them. Again, totally MOO.