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Genomic sequencing of viruses from the #COVID19 pandemic can help reveal transmission patterns. Thanks to data sharing through @GISAID from groups all over the world, @nextstrain is now showing 1882 #SARSCoV2 genomes. This is an update on a few aspects of what we're seeing. 1/14
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To begin, Washington State has had 354 viruses sequenced (out of 453 in the US). Here we see that the large majority (83%) of sequenced viruses from Washington State appear to descend from a single introduction event in late Jan or early Feb. auspice 5/14 Trevor Bedford on Twitter

This transmission chain has gotten big enough to throw off its own sparks, with sequenced viruses showing up elsewhere in the US, Australia and Iceland. auspice 6/14 Trevor Bedford on Twitter

Sequenced cases from elsewhere in the US and Canada are sometimes related to this transmission chain, but most (77%) derive from separate more numerous and smaller introductions. However, it's possible that further sequencing of other regions will change this picture. 7/14 Trevor Bedford on Twitter

Next up, 201 genomes from the United Kingdom. These show a different pattern in which there are multiple clusters of related viruses, suggesting repeated introductions into the country followed by local spread. auspice 8/14
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As you might expect, viruses from the UK show close genetic relationships to viruses from elsewhere in Europe indicating frequent mixing between the two regions.
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Iceland has just released 334 virus genomes that are spread throughout the world's diversity and appear to represent a large number of recent separate introductions. auspice 10/14
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For example, as expected, viruses sampled in Iceland from people with travel history to the United States group with viruses from the US. This can be seen as the red (US) branches leading to (blue) Iceland viruses here. 11/14 Trevor Bedford on Twitter

Generally, we see large regional transmission chains when there was an introduction that got successfully underway in late Jan or early Feb and much more mixed transmission of recent introductions from the growing pandemic. 12/14

Oh wow, it is absolutely fascinating how they can trace transmission chains. I wish that I had paid more attention in biology class.
 
Well, I am good then when summer hits. My place has been very humid without any humidifiers.
@jjenny idk if you had time to read the articles, but the dry winter air allows germs to hang in the air, evidently. Most public places seem very dry, imo. Like hospitals, casinos, malls......then with their ventilation systems, I bet stuff can float aloft for quite some time.
Actually, I might have conducted a scientific test the other day. I turned a never used ceiling fan on, on HIGH, of course. The air was immediately filled with particles, some falling, some drifting, lol. I guess the concept is the same with invisible germs?
 
I am having one of those moments where I feel overwhelmed and swamped with all of this. The UK hit a horrible milestone today, with over 1000 deaths. A few miles away from me, the new Nightingale Hospital will have 4000 beds to cope with Covid19 cases. Four. Thousand. Beds.
And even now, so many people aren’t staying home, think they are untouchable, just don’t seem to have any concept of the magnitude of this. Sometimes it’s just too much to cope with.
 

From your link:

<snip> Dr. Knut M. Wittkowski, the former chief biostatistician and epidemiologist at Rockefeller University Hospital, told The Post he was not practicing social distancing and said he regularly goes to one of two illicit restaurants secretly operating in his Upper East Side neighborhood.

“Yesterday I went to my favorite speakeasy and had dinner,” he said, saying there were about eight others dining alongside him. He declined to name the establishment.


MOO: Find the establishment/s (he states there are 2x on the UES) and all the violators and fine/charge them asap
 
When you do, dart in & out ASAP.
I think Covid will always be here & our shopping habits are forever changed. Even after a vaccine, it will exist, so all things will still get contaminated, right?
It really is. I wouldn’t dare enter a supermarket right now. Fortunately I don’t have to thanks to you and many others on the first thread, who gave advice on items to stock up on.
I was just talking to a friend who is very concerned for her son working in a supermarket right now.
 
I am having one of those moments where I feel overwhelmed and swamped with all of this. The UK hit a horrible milestone today, with over 1000 deaths. A few miles away from me, the new Nightingale Hospital will have 4000 beds to cope with Covid19 cases. Four. Thousand. Beds.
And even now, so many people aren’t staying home, think they are untouchable, just don’t seem to have any concept of the magnitude of this. Sometimes it’s just too much to cope with.
You're not alone. I'm very overwhelmed today and feeling quite unsupported (except for here).
 
Oh Gardener, IMO the numbers are not good news at all and we are not even CLOSE to flattening the curve. I expect these numbers to rise, rise, for a long time, weeks, if not months JMO. As you said, we very late to take action.

See imo, the higher the cases, the more the multiplication, whatever that daily rate may be. Some initial projections put the doubling rate at 6 days. Again these are just models. I take every prediction chart with a grain of salt because there are so many factors as to what affects numbers. My point is the models have actually gotten worse. Imo.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that whatever the doubling rates show, we are no where near flattening the curve. We are just getting started. IMO. There is no good news here.

IANADoctor. This is just my personal opinion.

The fact that we have gotten to these numbers in the first place says a lot. We passed Asian countries and African nations and third world countries. Add the R0 factors, and other things and...

I went off on a long rant about this yesterday so trying to keep it short.

Yeah don’t start celebrating the flattening of the curve yet, moo. This is just the tip of the iceberg, imo.

Not only this, it appears we may have several epicenters growing, unlike China which was mostly Hubei, some in Guangdong, etc. (I love typing that by the way, “Guangdong”).

Hope you are feeling better today,
 
This is not an isolated incident, imo. I know people/places in my area doing the same. Moo Cuomo time, everyone!
From your link:

<snip> Dr. Knut M. Wittkowski, the former chief biostatistician and epidemiologist at Rockefeller University Hospital, told The Post he was not practicing social distancing and said he regularly goes to one of two illicit restaurants secretly operating in his Upper East Side neighborhood.

“Yesterday I went to my favorite speakeasy and had dinner,” he said, saying there were about eight others dining alongside him. He declined to name the establishment.


MOO: Find the establishment and all the violators and fine/charge them asap
 
Cuomo Presser right now. MSNBC

Started with "Today is Saturday. How do I know that? I know that because my alarm clock told me. "

Each day seems to blend into the next.
 
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Thank you. Its not that I’m glad you feel that way, it just helps to know I’m not alone on my emotional rollercoaster. It bewilders me, I truly don’t understand why so many choose to remain oblivious.
Me too. If not for their own health, why not think of the health of others? Even you are sure that you're not sick, why make another human being worry by being around them???

I don't get it.
 
When you do, dart in & out ASAP.
I think Covid will always be here & our shopping habits are forever changed. Even after a vaccine, it will exist, so all things will still get contaminated, right?

Unfortunately not all can dart in and out. My instacart shopper was in a big store for three hours just trying to get about 15 items. :(

As for CV always being here, this stresses me out and it is real, as Dr. Mike said this could evolve into a regular flu...I am hoping it will be like SARS though as far as dissipation .

Coronaviruses | NIH: National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
 
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