Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #45

[tresir2012]

Every country is trying to develop an antibody test, but so far no country has succeeded. Several fake tests have been announced and quickly banned in places like Canada.

I think it's pointless to claim that a test will be available in the future. Putting a "week or so" timeline on when that the test will developed, tested, validated and ready for use leaves a lot of room to move.

This is "top infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci" saying this though.

“Within a period of a week or so, we're going to have a rather large number of tests that are available,” Fauci told CNN’s Alisyn Camerota.

Who else has claimed it and not delivered? Have you a link?

 

[pocketaccent]

It looks like the toilet paper hoard-a-thon has ended in my area.

Had to stop by Walgreen's after work today and was pleasantly surprised to not only see a half-shelf full of TP, but another of paper towels. So I got one of each. Plus some Easter candy.

I'm cautiously optimistic that the TP shortage has ended in my area too. As proof, I received 2 large packs of TP from Amazon Fresh, something I haven't been able to achieve the past month.

 

[Bravo]

Ottawa man's free hand sanitizer project takes off

 

[PommyMommy]

Firing Line with Margaret Hoover on Twitter
President Trump’s former FDA Commissioner @ScottGottliebMD discusses how to be better prepared for a potential second wave of #COVID19 in September on @FiringLineShow tonight and this weekend.

Your local listings here: Schedule | Firing Line with Margaret Hoover | PBS

11:43 AM - 10 Apr 2020

Scott Gottlieb, MD on Twitter
Concerning public health data: During #COVID19 pandemic, prescriptions for vaccines declined significantly (down 85%); a falloff in use that sharply exceeds drop in any other drug category, likely reflecting in part people skipping primary care. Data from Bernstein research team.

5:20 PM - 10 Apr 2020

U.S. Surgeon General on Twitter
Are you worried that you or a loved one might be experiencing symptoms of #COVID19? Use the new @Apple screening tool designed with @CDCgov to find out what actions you should take.

To use the screening tool, visit the app store or COVID-19.

11:24 AM - 10 Apr 2020

Newsweek on Twitter
81-year-old veteran answers Army's call for retired medical professionals to help with coronavirus outbreak
81-year-old veteran answers Army's call for retired medical professionals to help with coronavirus outbreak
6:11 PM - 10 Apr 2020

 

[Bravo]

@margarita25
Mags!! Hello! (I’m trying to quote your post from Saturday but I don’t think I’m doing it right since that thread has closed)

Thank you for checking in on me. I’ve been completely MIA from WS for probably 2 weeks. I’ve been overwhelmed trying to manage the household here and dealing with the new life My goodness, the exhaustion it is to just go to the store.... sigh.

Anyway, I’m so far behind on these threads I will just have to jump right in. I’m doing ok. I do struggle with the highs and lows- going from despondent, to peacefully keeping time in place. From an almost claustrophobic fear we’ll never getting out of this, to savoring the pause in life to cook more (if I can find flour....) and to see the wildlife and spring flowers.

My father was diagnosed with terminal cancer last week. So this has been very hard. And I can’t go see him because he is thousands of miles away, and well.... coronavirus. So that is all heartbreaking. Just from every angle. The diagnosis, the inability for him to see his friends, for me to get there, etc. Unintended consequences of this virus- it affects our lives in ways that have nothing to do with actually having the virus.

I know I’ve missed some great discussions and updates from you and others in recent weeks here- if there is something I need to be caught up on please someone let me know!

I am so very sorry to hear about your Dad. We are here for you when you feel up to it ((hugs))

 

[otto]

This is "top infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci" saying this though.

“Within a period of a week or so, we're going to have a rather large number of tests that are available,” Fauci told CNN’s Alisyn Camerota.

Who else has claimed it and not delivered? Have you a link?

I know Fauci's role in the US. Every country has their own experts. Fauci is announcing something that may happen in a week or so. In a week or so, we'll see.

Other countries have announced research to develop the test - especially China, with no promises about timelines from any other country.

 

[NuttMegg]

Exclusive: Navy commander says virus-struck aircraft carrier crew 'struggling' after captain's firing - CNNPolitics
Washington (CNN)The top Navy admiral overseeing the virus-stricken aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt tells CNN in an exclusive interview that he found some sailors "struggling" and "upset" after their commanding officer was relieved of duty by the ousted acting navy secretary who was forced to resign over the matter.

The commander of the 7th Fleet, Vice Admiral Bill Merz, also told CNN that a better job could have been done communicating with crew members about the virus and how the Navy was handling it.
Merz, who is now in a precautionary 14-day isolation period after spending more than six hours on the Roosevelt earlier this week, offered the first direct view into the concerns of many crew members in a nearly 30-minute interview after visiting the ship in Guam.
He described a crew that felt significant anxiety over what they viewed as a lack of information they had been given to them about the virus.

 

[PommyMommy]

@margarita25
Mags!! Hello! (I’m trying to quote your post from Saturday but I don’t think I’m doing it right since that thread has closed)

Thank you for checking in on me. I’ve been completely MIA from WS for probably 2 weeks. I’ve been overwhelmed trying to manage the household here and dealing with the new life My goodness, the exhaustion it is to just go to the store.... sigh.

Anyway, I’m so far behind on these threads I will just have to jump right in. I’m doing ok. I do struggle with the highs and lows- going from despondent, to peacefully keeping time in place. From an almost claustrophobic fear we’ll never getting out of this, to savoring the pause in life to cook more (if I can find flour....) and to see the wildlife and spring flowers.

My father was diagnosed with terminal cancer last week. So this has been very hard. And I can’t go see him because he is thousands of miles away, and well.... coronavirus. So that is all heartbreaking. Just from every angle. The diagnosis, the inability for him to see his friends, for me to get there, etc. Unintended consequences of this virus- it affects our lives in ways that have nothing to do with actually having the virus.

I know I’ve missed some great discussions and updates from you and others in recent weeks here- if there is something I need to be caught up on please someone let me know!

Glad to see you back, MJPeony. I'm so terribly sorry to hear about your father. I hope you're able to visit with him often by phone.

We have undergone some reorganization. You might want to check out some of these sub-forums. MOO

Current Statistics for Each Individual States
Current Statistics for Each Individual States

Safety Tips and Things to do While Quarantined
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/safety-tips-and-things-to-do-while-quarantined.653/

Stats and Information from Other Countries
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/stats-and-information-from-other-countries.655/

 

[Bravo]

Spoke today for the 1st time with my 2 co-workers who have/had the virus and confirmed tests.
Greg- in his 40's, said it was absolute hell. His GF who was also positive but milder symptoms had to call 911 one eve. He was short of breath and he had a bad panic attack. His blood pressure was incredibly high. EMS treated him on site. Thinks he over did it that day by simply taking out the garbage, Dr. gave him a BP med and he feels so much better. Feels he likely had BP issues prior. He had the scary body tingling. He and GF recovering nicely.
Sydney-in her late 20's, felt horrible for days, felt better yesterday than today. Sleeping a lot. I didn't talk with her long. I think I woke her up. She has good support helping her out.

 

[otto]

I'm suddenly confused about why testing for antibodies is necessary. Wouldn't all recovered people have antibodies? I wonder - do some people, recovered from the virus, not have antibodies?

People test positive and need two consecutive negative tests to be "recovered." Presumably they would have antibodies. Can the "double negative test" be used to identify people who are of no risk to the public?

Is antibody identification use to identify people who are useful as blood donors - infuse into sick people - what that's called? It's one of the methods that shows some promise for now.

 

[tresir2012]

His people can check in .......but they can’t check out.

I’ve heard that somewhere before ?

Hotel California? You can check out but you can never leave, like Brexit in the UK, some say.

 

[tresir2012]

I'm suddenly confused about why testing for antibodies is necessary. Wouldn't all recovered people have antibodies? I wonder - do some people, recovered from the virus, not have antibodies?

People test positive and need two consecutive negative tests to be "recovered." Presumably they would have antibodies. Can the "double negative test" be used to identify people who are of no risk to the public?

Is antibody identification use to identify people who are useful as blood donors - infuse into sick people - what that's called? It's one of the methods that shows some promise for now.

I think some asymptomatic virus carriers may not be testing positive or may not have antibodies. I guess that's what they want to find out. If you have antibodies then you should not be susceptible again. Some people could be immune however IMO. So they would not have had it and would not have antibodies presumably. It's confusing thinking about it.

 

[firebird]

It looks like the toilet paper hoard-a-thon has ended in my area.

Had to stop by Walgreen's after work today and was pleasantly surprised to not only see a half-shelf full of TP, but another of paper towels. So I got one of each. Plus some Easter candy.

Other than the tp, my local grocery was almost completely back to normal yesterday and today. They had literally everything that had been missing - and not just a few of each, but the normal amount. The fact that's it was normally stocked for two days running, including a Saturday, tells me the worst is over. Even a week ago the store would have been overrun once a few people found out about it. Even the checker said on Friday, "wait till people find out." So that didn't come to pass. More good news

 

[I'm Just Here]

I'm suddenly confused about why testing for antibodies is necessary. Wouldn't all recovered people have antibodies? I wonder - do some people, recovered from the virus, not have antibodies?

People test positive and need two consecutive negative tests to be "recovered." Presumably they would have antibodies. Can the "double negative test" be used to identify people who are of no risk to the public?

Is antibody identification use to identify people who are useful as blood donors - infuse into sick people - what that's called? It's one of the methods that shows some promise for now.

This virus is so new and Drs can't be certain for how long a person is immune to it. Might even need a vaccine like some other diseases have required to be protected.

 

[Trino]

Please let us get though this. Let us once again not be frightened that our relatives and loved ones might be in peril. Help us to again appreciate going to places and events without worry, talking to friends, neighbors, and acquaintances without thinking about safety. As spring, summer, and even fall approach, once again may we again live our lives on this Earth without fear.

 

[jjenny]

I'm suddenly confused about why testing for antibodies is necessary. Wouldn't all recovered people have antibodies? I wonder - do some people, recovered from the virus, not have antibodies?

People test positive and need two consecutive negative tests to be "recovered." Presumably they would have antibodies. Can the "double negative test" be used to identify people who are of no risk to the public?

Is antibody identification use to identify people who are useful as blood donors - infuse into sick people - what that's called? It's one of the methods that shows some promise for now.

Some people don't know if they had covid or not. The symptoms are similar to cold or flu. It was very hard to get tested for covid. So if there is a test for antibodies, people can find out if they already had covid.

 

[otto]

Spoke today for the 1st time with my 2 co-workers who have/had the virus and confirmed tests.
Greg- in his 40's, said it was absolute hell. His GF who was also positive but milder symptoms had to call 911 one eve. He was short of breath and he had a bad panic attack. His blood pressure was incredibly high. EMS treated him on site. Thinks he over did it that day by simply taking out the garbage, Dr. gave him a BP med and he feels so much better. Feels he likely had BP issues prior. He had the scary body tingling. He and GF recovering nicely.
Sydney-in her late 20's, felt horrible for days, felt better yesterday than today. Sleeping a lot. I didn't talk with her long. I think I woke her up. She has good support helping her out.

My 24 year old son slept a lot during self-isolation - sleeping long hours, much longer than normal, concerned him. I told him that it wouldn't happen if he didn't need it. He had bronchitis at the beginning of isolation, a cough at the end. He was not tested. His friend delivered groceries. Sleep is good

Interesting point about undiagnosed conditions and possible first symptom.

My brother just proudly phoned to check whether his first ever attempt to buy phone minutes worked - he was so happy that it worked.

 

[NuttMegg]

Diversion post of the evening
Don't forget free Andrea Bocelli concert on Easter Sunday. Live on youtube at 1 pm ET.
How to Watch Andrea Bocelli's Easter Sunday Concert on YouTube

 

[otto]

I think some asymptomatic virus carriers may not be testing positive or may not have antibodies. I guess that's what they want to find out. If you have antibodies then you should not be susceptible again. Some people could be immune however IMO. So they would not have had it and would not have antibodies presumably. It's confusing thinking about it.

I wonder. It doesn't make sense that they need a double negative to be clear of the virus yet an antibody test is needed to be clear of the virus, so why is it important to identify antibodies?

Serum with antibodies is not a vaccine, but it seems to help fight the virus.

Confusing indeed - hopefully becomes clear soon.

 

[madfrank]

For Some Churches, Easter Is Too Profitable to Cancel (gen.medium.com)