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Many patients are developing small-clots in their lungs, reducing the amount of oxygen they can move into their bodies. For others, their blood is clogging dialysis machines (which has been a problem due to the amount of kidney failure this illness is also causing).

“I’m a hematologist, and this is unprecedented,” says Jeffrey Laurence of Weill Cornell Medical College, who has been in the field for three decades. “This is not like a disease we’ve seen before.”

Nearly every patient he has seen for blood disorders in the past month and a half has had Covid-19. “I’ve never had so many consults in my life. These people are clotting, and we can’t shut it off.”

Blood clots are also causing other unexpected problems for Covid-19 patients. For example, Broadway actor Nick Cordero, who has been hospitalized since March with severe Covid-19, had his right leg amputated earlier this month after doctors were unable to control clotting there.

What causes blood to clot?

When we get injured, we depend on our blood’s ability to clot to stop the flow of blood. Clotting is a complex process that involves small cell fragments called platelets congregating and changing shape, proteins that help even more cells bind together, and the secretion of substances called blood clotting factors. If any of these processes go off course, people can experience excessive bleeding, which can be life-threatening.

On the other end of the spectrum, sometimes clots form inside blood vessels (or, more rarely, arteries) without an injury. These can cause serious harm and sometimes death. There are many risk factors for developing internal blood clots, including smoking, obesity, heart disease, and others. And, now, it looks like Covid-19 is a risk factor as well.

Some clots remain in the place where they form and are known as thrombosis. This can cause severe pain and swelling. These clots can also travel to — or form in — a major organ, where they can do even more serious damage.

For example, a clot in the leg can travel up to the lungs, cutting off blood flow and causing a pulmonary embolism (which can lead to death or permanent lung damage). A clot can also flow to the heart, triggering a heart attack. And one in or near the head can block blood flow in part of the brain, bringing on a stroke.

What clots are doing to Covid-19 patients

Small early studies and case reports about the link between the novel coronavirus and blood clots are now pouring in. For example, one team in the Netherlands followed 184 severe Covid-19 patients who were receiving treatment in three different intensive care units. They found that 31 percent of these people had some sort of blood clotting issue, a percentage they call “remarkably high.”

Other data is emerging with similar implications. “In patients with severe disease, various forms of blood clots are estimated to occur in 15-35 percent of patients,” Behnood Bikdeli, a cardiology fellow at Columbia University Medical Center, tells Vox. And these clots, especially the small ones, “could impact the illness severity and involvement of many of the organs,” he says. (He and an international team of dozens of researchers published an April review of clotting issues in the Journal of the American College of Cardiology.)

Laurence has been studying small blood clots in HIV/AIDS patients for decades. In March, a dermatologist sent him a photo of surprising skin lesions on a young man who was severely ill with Covid-19. Laurence was stunned. “It’s a picture of microvascular clotting, where you can see exactly where the vessels have clotted,” he says. He started wondering if something similar might be happening in the lungs.

Just hours later, another doctor called, giving him access to an autopsy of a different Covid-19 patient. Not only did this individual have small clots in the skin — but also in his lungs. (Laurence and his colleagues published descriptions of these and three other cases of severe clotting in an April Translational Research paper.)

The presence of small clots in the lungs is disturbing, but it also might help to explain a puzzling trend medical staff have noticed in some Covid-19 patients. When people develop more advanced illness, their lungs can become stiff, making breathing on their own very difficult. This leads to a drop in oxygen in the blood if they are not on mechanical ventilation.

But health care workers have seen many patients with low oxygen levels but who still have fairly flexible lungs, Laurence explains. This points to the presence of “microvessel clots [in the lungs] shutting off the ability of people to bring oxygen into their blood,” he says. (He also noted that sustained time on a ventilator can, itself, increase lung stiffness, which could have been throwing off clinicians who were seeing that as an outcome of the illness, and perhaps along the way missing signs that something else was going on.)

Laurence also describes the multitude of people sick with Covid-19 whose blood clots are plugging up the dialysis machines in their wards. Beyond that, he says, even “as the nurses are drawing their blood, it’s clotting in the tubes, and they’re on full doses of Heparin” and other blood thinning medications. “Everyone is seeing a similar kind of thing,” he says. (More in article)

How Covid-19 might be causing blood clots

Scientists still don’t understand exactly what is triggering this excessive blood clotting. (Some viruses, such as the Ebola virus, cause extreme bleeding, but others, such as HIV, can trigger small clots.) And it’s not yet clear if these changes in the blood are from the virus itself or the body’s immune response to the infection.

One of the hypotheses has to do with how the virus gains entry to our cells. Researchers have found that this coronavirus manages to sneak into our cells via a specific type of receptor known as ACE2. These are prominently found in the lungs, which might explain why so much of the virus’s damage has been centered there. But ACE2 receptors are also very common along the walls of blood vessels throughout the body, Oxley explains. So it’s possible that its presence there is spurring additional inflammation of the vessels, prompting the formation of blood clots.

Laurence also points to this inflammatory problem. “It is this insidious feedback loop of inflammation,” he says. And once it’s going, he says, “you can’t intervene in that system effectively.”

To be sure, sustained immobility, such as in a hospital bed, can increase the risk for blood clots, but the rates currently being reported in Covid-19 patients is way above what would normally be expected, Laurence notes.

What can be done

With the new evidence about this virus’s potential effect on the blood, doctors at many major medical facilities have begun administering low doses of preventative blood thinners to Covid-19 patients.

It’s a tricky move, though, because too much blood thinner can cause a patient to bleed internally and possibly die. To gauge the best doses, many physicians are going off of a patient’s D dimer levels, which is a biomarker for the presence of blood clots. New clinical trials have quickly spun up (including a multi-state one in the US to test one type of powerful blood thinners, known as tPA (tissue plasminogen activator) in Covid-19 patients, as STAT News reports). And Bikdeli and others have formed an international collective “to provide interim consensus-based guidance,” he says. “What is needed most is high-quality data.”

But these preventative treatments won’t help those who’ve had strokes or other major blood-clot complications before receiving medical care. And that number, though still small, is real, as the five young stroke victims from New York City show. (More in article)


Coronavirus’s new mystery: It’s causing strokes in healthy people

Ugggh yeah I was reading about “micro clots” the other day and it totally freaks me out and gives me the heebie jeebies moo, like nails on a chalkboard. Got goosebumps now in fact...
 
It's time to come together as one.

As the Coronavirus pandemic continues to impact the lives of millions around the world, Hollywood's biggest stars are coming together for a special event.

Titled "The Call to Unite," the 24-hour global livestream event aims to unite people across the world to celebrate our shared humanity.

Whether you're looking for performances, conversations or some inspiration, "Call to Unite" will feature it all.

Plus, with familiar faces like Oprah Winfrey, Jennifer Garner, Julia Roberts, Common, Eva Longoria, Ally Brooke, Maria Shriver, Mandy Moore and Rob Lowe already scheduled to attend, you just never know who is going to stop by and join the cause.

The Call to UNITE Schedule

I hope this one is real


The Call to UNITE
 
Article on young CV patientss having strokes, Dr. Thomas Oxley

Thomas Oxley, a neurosurgeon at Mount Sinai in New York and a coauthor of the new report from the New England Journal of Medicine:
Large-Vessel Stroke as a Presenting Feature of Covid-19 in the Young,

“It was very surprising to see the increase in this large-vessel stroke in young people, The bigger the vessel, the bigger the stroke."

“It’s the biggest story emerging” about Covid-19, he adds. The rate of large-vessel stroke victims under 50 they saw was seven times higher than before the pandemic."

Thomas Oxley wasn’t even on call the day he received the page to come to Mount Sinai Beth Israel Hospital in Manhattan. There weren’t enough doctors to treat all the emergency stroke patients, and he was needed in the operating room.

The patient’s chart appeared unremarkable at first glance. He took no medications and had no history of chronic conditions. He had been feeling fine, hanging out at home during the lockdown like the rest of the country, when suddenly, he had trouble talking and moving the right side of his body. Imaging showed a large blockage on the left side of his head.

Oxley gasped when he got to the patient’s age and covid-19 status: 44, positive.

The man was among several recent stroke patients in their 30s to 40s who were all infected with the coronavirus. The median age for that type of severe stroke is 74.

As Oxley, an interventional neurologist, began the procedure to remove the clot, he observed something he had never seen before. On the monitors, the brain typically shows up as a tangle of black squiggles — “like a can of spaghetti,” he said — that provide a map of blood vessels. A clot shows up as a blank spot. As he used a needlelike device to pull out the clot, he saw new clots forming in real-time around it.

“This is crazy,” he remembers telling his boss.

Reports of strokes in the young and middle-aged — not just at Mount Sinai, but also in many other hospitals in communities hit hard by the novel coronavirus

Even as it has infected nearly 2.8 million people worldwide and killed about 195,000 as of Friday, its biological mechanisms continue to elude top scientific minds. Once thought to be a pathogen that primarily attacks the lungs, it has turned out to be a much more formidable foe — impacting nearly every major organ system in the body. Until recently, there was little hard data on strokes and covid-19.

(Further down in article)

Many doctors expressed worry that as the New York City Fire Department was picking up four times as many people who died at home as normal during the peak of infection that some of the dead had suffered sudden strokes. The truth may never be known because few autopsies were conducted.

Chou said one question is whether the clotting is because of a direct attack on the blood vessels, or a “friendly-fire problem” caused by the patient’s immune response.

There is a video on the page:
As coronavirus hospitalizations in New York began to peak in April, emergency medicine physician Howard Greller recorded his reflections.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2009787

For sure.
The term Large-vessel stroke, gives me pause for concern.
 

Thanks, Tillicum. Marking report:

“A research dossier compiled by the so-called "Five Eyes" intelligence alliance states that China intentionally hid or destroyed evidence of the coronavirusoutbreak, resulting in the loss of tens of thousands of lives around the world

The 15-page document from the intelligence agencies of the U.S., Canada, the U.K., Australia and New Zealand, was obtained by Australia's Daily Telegraph newspaper and states that China's secrecy amounted to an “assault on international transparency."
 
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It wouldn't be that hard to build their own testing system (like the White House) and then offer all the extra tests, once they are done, to the general public.

Yep, it would require cooperation with state regulations and medical professionals, but with the kind of money the NBA has, they could do it for all athletes everywhere - and also serve the public.
Great thought and would love to see this. People are starved for something to do inside and something to talk about other than COVID 19!
 
It's time to come together as one.

As the Coronavirus pandemic continues to impact the lives of millions around the world, Hollywood's biggest stars are coming together for a special event.

Titled "The Call to Unite," the 24-hour global livestream event aims to unite people across the world to celebrate our shared humanity.

Whether you're looking for performances, conversations or some inspiration, "Call to Unite" will feature it all.

Plus, with familiar faces like Oprah Winfrey, Jennifer Garner, Julia Roberts, Common, Eva Longoria, Ally Brooke, Maria Shriver, Mandy Moore and Rob Lowe already scheduled to attend, you just never know who is going to stop by and join the cause.

The Call to UNITE Schedule

I hope this one is real


The Call to UNITE

Woohoo Oprah in the House! Yay moo.
 
Article on young CV patientss developing blood clots by Dr. Thomas Oxley

Thomas Oxley, a neurosurgeon at Mount Sinai in New York and a coauthor of the new report from the New England Journal of Medicine:
Large-Vessel Stroke as a Presenting Feature of Covid-19 in the Young,

“It was very surprising to see the increase in this large-vessel stroke in young people, The bigger the vessel, the bigger the stroke."

“It’s the biggest story emerging” about Covid-19, he adds. The rate of large-vessel stroke victims under 50 they saw was seven times higher than before the pandemic."

Thomas Oxley wasn’t even on call the day he received the page to come to Mount Sinai Beth Israel Hospital in Manhattan. There weren’t enough doctors to treat all the emergency stroke patients, and he was needed in the operating room.

The patient’s chart appeared unremarkable at first glance. He took no medications and had no history of chronic conditions. He had been feeling fine, hanging out at home during the lockdown like the rest of the country, when suddenly, he had trouble talking and moving the right side of his body. Imaging showed a large blockage on the left side of his head.

Oxley gasped when he got to the patient’s age and covid-19 status: 44, positive.

The man was among several recent stroke patients in their 30s to 40s who were all infected with the coronavirus. The median age for that type of severe stroke is 74.

As Oxley, an interventional neurologist, began the procedure to remove the clot, he observed something he had never seen before. On the monitors, the brain typically shows up as a tangle of black squiggles — “like a can of spaghetti,” he said — that provide a map of blood vessels. A clot shows up as a blank spot. As he used a needlelike device to pull out the clot, he saw new clots forming in real-time around it.

“This is crazy,” he remembers telling his boss.

Reports of strokes in the young and middle-aged — not just at Mount Sinai, but also in many other hospitals in communities hit hard by the novel coronavirus

Even as it has infected nearly 2.8 million people worldwide and killed about 195,000 as of Friday, its biological mechanisms continue to elude top scientific minds. Once thought to be a pathogen that primarily attacks the lungs, it has turned out to be a much more formidable foe — impacting nearly every major organ system in the body. Until recently, there was little hard data on strokes and covid-19.

(Further down in article)

Many doctors expressed worry that as the New York City Fire Department was picking up four times as many people who died at home as normal during the peak of infection that some of the dead had suffered sudden strokes. The truth may never be known because few autopsies were conducted.

Chou said one question is whether the clotting is because of a direct attack on the blood vessels, or a “friendly-fire problem” caused by the patient’s immune response.

There is a video on the page:
As coronavirus hospitalizations in New York began to peak in April, emergency medicine physician Howard Greller recorded his reflections.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2009787

The top line, I just noticed I made a mistake. I wrote strokes and the word should have been blood clots. Corrected
 
THAT'S REFRESHING....AFTER WATCHING GA

Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves said today that he had planned to announce the reopening of certain businesses but decided against it after the state reported its largest increase new cases.

He said the number of cases increased after the state received new information on previous deaths and tests.

"This thing is not over, we are not out of the woods yet," he said. "We have to stay flexible."

Coronavirus pandemic in the US: Live updates

Ive got to give credit where it is due. I was very critical of Tate Reeves on the front end of this as he was a little hesitant to close the state and give shelter in place orders. Since that time, though, he has done an excellent job in handling the crisis in Mississippi.
 
When this was still a China epidemic, people commented here that the measures taken in China to protect society from an infection that can cause permanent health issues (ARDS) would never work in the USA. We all knew it. Today, we see what that looks like.

Other countries have taken a more conservative approach, with a combination of closures, "stay at home" requests and need-specific financial aid. Canada is slowly opening all provinces with provincially determined, phased regulations. If any one phase raises numbers, things could be scaled back or maintained until the numbers are managed and controlled.

Not every province has the same timeline. Similarly, not all states have the same timeline. Do individual states at least have a plan?

BBM. To my knowledge, no citizen of the U.S. has been forcibly removed from their home and dragged to a facility. That will NEVER happen because of our Constitution.

And, yes, individual states in the U.S. do have a plan.

JMO
 
BBM / Apr 22 WHO Conference:

“In addition to supporting countries, we also track progress globally. Among countries that have reported data to WHO,

78% have a preparedness and response plan in place;

76% have surveillance systems in place to detect cases;

And 91% have laboratory testing capacity for COVID-19.

But we still see many gaps around the world.

Only 66% of countries have a clinical referral system in place to care for COVID-19 patients;

Only 48% have a community engagement plan;

And only 48% have an infection prevention and control programme and standards for water, sanitation and hygiene in health facilities.

In other words, there are still many gaps in the world’s defences, and no single country has everything in place.

WHO will continue working with countries and the international community to close these gaps and build sustainable capacities for now and the future.

But we’re not alone. We work with partners all over the world to harness their expertise and networks.”
 
Ugggh yeah I was reading about “micro clots” the other day and it totally freaks me out and gives me the heebie jeebies moo, like nails on a chalkboard. Got goosebumps now in fact...

I viewed Dr Oxley discussing this, He said they are seeing an increase of strokes in all ages across the board, the median age for a stroke is 74. But they are seeing these large vessel strokes in young patients between age 33 and 49.

Blood clots in large vessels are more dangerous because they are blocking off much more blood to the brain, all at once.
Large vessel strokes in young people is a rare phenomen, this increase got him so concerned he wrote that letter to the NEJM

Typically these large vessel strokes happen in young people for a reason, there is an increased propensity to blood clotting, or some other risk factor to cause this.
But for the great part in these young patients, they didn't see any risk factors, so it made him wonder how the virus could be directly causing the blood clot.

These blood clots are not just leading to strokes, they are seeing them contribute to serious problems with kidneys, lung issues, heart attacks, even leg amputations. Which is what happened to broadway actor Nick Cordero.

They are still learning, but what they think is happening is the virus gets into the body through a particular receptor that's expressed in certain parts of the body.

It is called ACE2. That ACE2 receptor is in the lungs, that's why patients get pneumonia. But it is also expressed in the wall of the blood vessels.
It looks like the virus is getting into the blood vessel wall and causes inflammation. Blood clots are forming in the wall and they fly down to various organs in the body. They were seeing this happening in the brain

More aggressive blood thinners may be useful. Since his letter to the NEJM, he still has seen an increase of strokes in all age groups.

People are writing to him saying they have had small strokes. He said two of his patients delayed calling 9-1-1, because they were concerned about going to the hospital during the pandemic.

They have very effective therapy for small vessel stroke and large vessel stroke, but it has to happen within six hours. Sometimes you can be treated outside of six hours but for the greater majority you have to get treatment within six hours for it to be effective. Which means you have to call an ambulance as soon as possible. Two of his patients waited 24 hours before calling an ambulance.

He never discussed the micro clots. Just small and large blood vessels
 
This virus has sunk me into a depression. I don't mind the lockdown and I kind of enjoy the lockdown since I am an introvert. I don't see an end. Maybe I am reading too much news.

in all of my 75 years, until now, i have never felt such an imminent existential
threat to my life--i am at once terrified, then depressed-- i think of all those who
have died agonizing deaths,, not allowed to be comforted in their last moments.
I almost see this virus as a living entity, murderous, ruthless, whose only
function is to kill as many people as possible in a myriad of horrific ways.
we are helpless against its wrath-- all of our technology is useless---it might
as well be 1918-- well we do have Zoom and social media!!!! those of us
who do the right thing like social distancing are also in a sense potential
victims of selfish morons who will be responsible for deaths of many. This
is a horror the likes of which i could have never imagined in my life time
 
I wonder how many WS members that we don’t even know about have contracted Covid-19 and had serious, and perhaps fatal consequences.

Some may not be in touch with any members here, so we may never know if any or which WS members may have died during this pandemic.

I say this as I think about members that suddenly just went MIA. Hopefully they’re just busy with their lives and are okay.
 
I viewed Dr Oxley discussing this, He said they are seeing an increase of strokes in all ages across the board, the median age for a stroke is 74. But they are seeing these large vessel strokes in young patients between age 33 and 49.

Blood clots in large vessels are more dangerous because they are blocking off much more blood to the brain, all at once.
Large vessel strokes in young people is a rare phenomen, this increase got him so concerned he wrote that letter to the NEJM

Typically these large vessel strokes happen in young people for a reason, there is an increased propensity to blood clotting, or some other risk factor to cause this.
But for the great part in these young patients, they didn't see any risk factors, so it made him wonder how the virus could be directly causing the blood clot.

These blood clots are not just leading to strokes, they are seeing them contribute to serious problems with kidneys, lung issues, heart attacks, even leg amputations. Which is what happened to broadway actor Nick Cordero.

They are still learning, but what they think is happening is the virus gets into the body through a particular receptor that's expressed in certain parts of the body.

It is called ACE2. That ACE2 receptor is in the lungs, that's why patients get pneumonia. But it is also expressed in the wall of the blood vessels.
It looks like the virus is getting into the blood vessel wall and causes inflammation. Blood clots are forming in the wall and they fly down to various organs in the body. They were seeing this happening in the brain

More aggressive blood thinners may be useful. Since his letter to the NEJM, he still has seen an increase of strokes in all age groups.

People are writing to him saying they have had small strokes. He said two of his patients delayed calling 9-1-1, because they were concerned about going to the hospital during the pandemic.

They have very effective therapy for small vessel stroke and large vessel stroke, but it has to happen within six hours. Sometimes you can be treated outside of six hours but for the greater majority you have to get treatment within six hours for it to be effective. Which means you have to call an ambulance as soon as possible. Two of his patients waited 24 hours before calling an ambulance.

He never discussed the micro clots. Just small and large blood vessels

You may also find the micro clot thing of interest...I think I read it here so maybe someone can link or you can google. I’d help ya out with that one my friend but it gives me the heebie jeebies like I said lol.
 
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