Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #69

[Reasonable & Just]

Perhaps the CDC will still publish the data? I don't believe the data will be hidden.

Well, the current governing style is to propose something like this, then walk it back after some pushback (ICE rule for foreign students, threatening public school funding if we don't cram them all in 5 days a week). So you may well be right.

 

[JerseyGirl]

US labs are getting more coronavirus tests than they can process in a day

“In light of the ongoing spread of Covid-19 in states across the country, many labs are now receiving more test orders than they are able to process in a single day,” American Clinical Laboratory Association President Julie Khani said in a statement.

“We have urged ordering providers to prioritize testing for those most in need, especially hospitalized and symptomatic patients.”

On Monday, Quest Diagnostics, a member of the ACLA, said some of its tests were taking seven days to turn around because of the demand.

Why this matters: Without quick testing, people cannot know whether they have the virus and take steps to avoid spreading it. Fast testing is central to contact tracing, the method that public health experts say is key to controlling the spread of the pandemic.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Perhaps the CDC will still publish the data? I don't believe the data will be hidden.

The CDC was cut out.

Coronavirus hospital data will now be sent to Trump administration instead of CDC

... hospitals are to begin reporting the data to HHS on Wednesday, noting also that the "database that will receive new information is not open to the public, which could affect the work of scores of researchers, modelers and health officials who rely on C.D.C. data to make projections and crucial decisions."

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Trump Administration To Hospitals: Don’t Send Covid-19 Coronavirus Data To CDC

Coronavirus hospital data will now be sent to Trump administration instead of CDC

Hospitals told to send coronavirus data to Washington, not CDC
... the Trump administration had ordered hospitals to bypass the CDC and send all COVID-19 patient information to a central database in Washington beginning Wednesday, raising concerns from health experts that it will be politicized or withheld from the public.

The move comes amid concerns that the White House has been sidelining the CDC and after Trump administration officials attacked Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert and a member of the White House coronavirus task force. The Trump administration has cast public doubt on CDC recommendations and highlighted comments regarding the reopening of schools.

 

[tresir2012]

FOX 35 INVESTIGATES: Florida Department of Health says some labs have not reported negative COVID-19 results

Seems to be some problems with the positivity test rate in Florida.

 

[tresir2012]

Well, the current governing style is to propose something like this, then walk it back after some pushback (ICE rule for foreign students, threatening public school funding if we don't cram them all in 5 days a week). So you may well be right.

COVIDView, Key Updates for Week 27

This is the latest that CDC are reporting. Data from W/e July 4th. They are always behind the Worldometers and JHU sites. So they can't be getting the data from CDC IMO.

 

[JerseyGirl]

South Florida Facilities To Participate In Moderna’s Phase 3 Study For COVID-19 Vaccine

On Tuesday, the pharmaceutical company announced that the mRNA-1273 vaccine has induced immune responses in all volunteers in this Phase 1 study.

The vaccine was given 28 days apart in three dose levels to 45 healthy participants between the ages of 18 and 55.

The vaccine induced binding antibodies to the coronavirus spike protein after the first vaccination, the release said.

After two vaccinations, at day 57 of the study, antibody titers exceeded those in convalescent sera taken from 38 people who had COVID-19, a Moderna news release said.

Moderna said the vaccine was “generally safe and well-tolerated.”

“The most commonly reported systemic adverse events following second vaccination at the 100 µg (microgram) dose were fatigue (80%), chills (80%), headache (60%) and myalgia (53%), all of which were transient and mild or moderate in severity,” Moderna said in the news release. “The most common solicited local adverse event at the 100 µg dose was pain at the injection site (100%), which was also transient and mild or moderate in severity. Evaluation of clinical safety laboratory values grade 2 or higher and unsolicited adverse events revealed no patterns of concern.”

Moderna’s next step will be a 30,000-participant Phase 3 study set to start July 27.

According to ClinicalTrials.gov, some South Florida facilities will be participating.

 

[CharlestonGal]

So, basically, for future reference we are not to believe the numbers from:

China, North Korea, Russia, and the United States.

*keeping it klassy in the usa*

Not the numbers from the US government, no. But they cannot stop all the third party research and statistic groups that are running sites like worldometer and ourworldindata that are collecting data directly from state public health sites. The US may have effectively muzzled the CDC, which is a federal agency, but they will have a much more difficult time trying to strong arm and muzzle the states.

Could also be a first step in circumventing the reporting of covid from the CDC to the WHO. Pretty sure the CDC is required to report certain data to the WHO, but I don't believe that requirement applies to the HHS. jmo

 

[drama_farmer]

Well, the current governing style is to propose something like this, then walk it back after some pushback (ICE rule for foreign students, threatening public school funding if we don't cram them all in 5 days a week). So you may well be right.

Seems like a negotiating style, IMO. Propose outlandish action, wait for a reaction, then "compromise" with a slightly less outlandish action.

I would say it's in the same playbook as "deny, deny, deny....counterattack" IMO

 

[CharlestonGal]

FOX 35 INVESTIGATES: Florida Department of Health says some labs have not reported negative COVID-19 results

Seems to be some problems with the positivity test rate in Florida.

No reason to report negative results. If you do 100 tests and 20 are positive it's not rocket science to figure out 80 are negative.

 

[Reasonable & Just]

COVIDView, Key Updates for Week 27

This is the latest that CDC are reporting. Data from W/e July 4th. They are always behind the Worldometers and JHU sites. So they can't be getting the data from CDC IMO.

Yes, I see that for the Key Weekly Updates. There is this, last updated July 14 and probably will be updated again today (since they refer to "yesterday's cases). Cases & Deaths in US and Testing in US (says updating will not occur evening of July 14th but will be updated July 15). So I think the CDC is keeping up - as long as they have access to data.

 

[CSIDreamer]

No reason to report negative results. If you do 100 tests and 20 are positive it's not rocket science to figure out 80 are negative.

What about the people waiting at home for test results? They have a right to know if they're negative.

 

[JerseyGirl]

The US saw a record number of new Covid-19 cases yesterday. These are the country's virus hotspots

The states continue to report new records:

• California: Hospitalizations and ICU admissions for Covid-19 patients continue to rise in the state, setting a new record with a total of 6,745 hospitalizations and 1,886 ICU admissions.
• Texas: The state reported at least 10,745 new Covid-19 cases on Tuesday, a record high daily number.
• Florida: reported at least 9,194 new cases and an additional 132 deaths Tuesday, the most deaths in one day in the state. Meanwhile, at least 48 hospitals have reached their ICU capacity.
• Arizona: The state has led the nation — for over a month — with the highest 7-day average of new coronavirus cases per 100,000 people.

Meanwhile, at least 27 states have paused or rolled back plans to reopen their economies. Among them is Nevada, where 37 bars have filed a lawsuit to fight Gov. Steve Sisolak's order to revert back to Phase 1 of the state's reopening plan.

But Fauci cautioned that relaxed restrictions in California, Florida, Arizona and Texas are partly to blame for rising cases in those states, particularly among young people.

 

[tresir2012]

Not the numbers from the US government, no. But they cannot stop all the third party research and statistic groups that are running sites like worldometer and ourworldindata that are collecting data directly from state public health sites. The US may have effectively muzzled the CDC, which is a federal agency, but they will have a much more difficult time trying to strong arm and muzzle the states.

Could also be a first step in circumventing the reporting of covid from the CDC to the WHO. Pretty sure the CDC is required to report certain data to the WHO, but I don't believe that requirement applies to the HHS. jmo

Yes a reportable disease has to be reported to WHO.

I agree that the individual states figures will still be available and sites like JHU probably have algorithms to automatically collect the data direct from the states themselves so the data will still be available IMO. There seems to be a bit of reporting "panic" going on AFAICS.

 

[Trino]

Yes. They walk among us. Stories of those who consider coronavirus a hoax and reasons. Amazing.
As Trump sends mixed messages on coronavirus, some loyal supporters cling to conspiracy theories

 

[RANCH]

Not the numbers from the US government, no. But they cannot stop all the third party research and statistic groups that are running sites like worldometer and ourworldindata that are collecting data directly from state public health sites. The US may have effectively muzzled the CDC, which is a federal agency, but they will have a much more difficult time trying to strong arm and muzzle the states.

Could also be a first step in circumventing the reporting of covid from the CDC to the WHO. Pretty sure the CDC is required to report certain data to the WHO, but I don't believe that requirement applies to the HHS. jmo

So the hospital numbers are not hidden from the public. I'd like confirmation from a government source that HHS is hiding the information from the public for no apparent reason.

If the information is available directly from state public health sites I don't understand the purpose of HHS hiding it.

 

[JerseyGirl]

So the hospital numbers are not hidden from the public. I'd like confirmation from a government source that HHS is hiding the information from the public for no apparent reason.

If the information is available directly from state public health sites I don't understand the purpose of HHS hiding it.

We'll know more soon, it didn't go into effect until today, but the HHS did say that they would not share their numbers, effective today. with the public.

 

[CharlestonGal]

They are going to have to walk this back by allowing public access to the HHS data. I think the US public and the world will demand it. Loudly. jmo

COVID-19 hospital data will go to White House before CDC | WSAV-TV

Michael Caputo, the HHS assistant public affairs secretary, said in a statement that the “new faster and complete data system is what our nation needs to defeat the coronavirus and the CDC, an operating division of HHS, will certainly participate in this streamlined all-of-government response. They will simply no longer control it.”

But four former CDC directors slammed the decision in a Washington Post op-ed, saying it’s a political move at a time when the White House wants to reopen schools.

“We’re seeing the terrible effect of undermining the CDC play out in our population. Willful disregard for public health guidelines is, unsurprisingly, leading to a sharp rise in infections and deaths,” the four former CDC officials wrote. “America now stands as a global outlier in the coronavirus pandemic. This tragic indictment of our efforts is even more egregious in light of the disproportionate impact we’ve witnessed on communities of color and lower-income essential workers.”

An internal CDC document obtained by the Times called the reopening of schools in the fall the “highest risk” for the spread of the virus.

The CDC’s database is accessible to the public and used by researchers to make projections and decisions, while the HHS database is private.

 

[RANCH]

We'll know more soon, it didn't go into effect until today, but the HHS did say that they would not share their numbers, effective today. with the public.

So a big uproar about something that hasn't happen yet. I still would like a quote from someone at HHS that explains this in detail.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I can think of two places where the leadership is in control of the figures .... China and Russia.

And now three? If you are a member of WHO, you are OBLIGATED to share data... #1 pull out so you don't have to share info.. #2 remove from CDC?

Optics are very bad.

MOO

 

[dixiegirl1035]

On a lighter note . . .

Coronavirus has Americans hooked on canned tuna, and producers are playing catch up

Dammit, they got my secret now I'm gonna be in short supply!