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Cool Cats said:
Who Should Get First Coronavirus Vaccine Shot? Experts Release Priority List

The advisory committee in the UK says that the first COVID-19 jabs should be for care home residents and staffs

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Vaccine Priority (Representational picture) Pixabay

As per the committee, the experts have examined the data on who suffers the worst outcomes of COVID-19 disease and who are at the highest risk of dying from the SARS-CoV-2 infection. As per the list, the priority should be:

  • Older adults in a care home and care home workers
  • Aged 80 and above, and health and social care workers
  • all those 75 years of age and over
  • all those 70 years of age and over
  • all those 65 years of age and over
  • high-risk adults under 65 years of age
  • moderate-risk adults under 65 years of age
  • all those 60 years of age and over
  • all those 55 years of age and over
  • all those 50 years of age and over
  • rest of the population (priority to be determined)
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Very well thought out IMO. Protect those care home residents. Jmo
 
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Cool Cats said:
Who Should Get First Coronavirus Vaccine Shot? Experts Release Priority List

The advisory committee in the UK says that the first COVID-19 jabs should be for care home residents and staffs

priority-list.png

Vaccine Priority (Representational picture) Pixabay

As per the committee, the experts have examined the data on who suffers the worst outcomes of COVID-19 disease and who are at the highest risk of dying from the SARS-CoV-2 infection. As per the list, the priority should be:

  • Older adults in a care home and care home workers
  • Aged 80 and above, and health and social care workers
  • all those 75 years of age and over
  • all those 70 years of age and over
  • all those 65 years of age and over
  • high-risk adults under 65 years of age
  • moderate-risk adults under 65 years of age
  • all those 60 years of age and over
  • all those 55 years of age and over
  • all those 50 years of age and over
  • rest of the population (priority to be determined)
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Makes complete sense. Thanks for linking.
 
tresir2012 said:
This is happening in UK too. Boots pharmacies have reportedly run out or have all appointments full. It was on the radio this morning. I will find a link.

Flu jabs limited due to high demand

They are having to limit it to vulnerable groups and over 65's so they don't run out. To me this means people will flock to get the Covid jab too once it is available. So they will have to limit it like this initially too. MOO.
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In Florida too.... I am on a wait list...have been for a month now...
 
One of the first large cruise ships to resume sailings in the Mediterranean since the coronavirus-caused worldwide halt to cruising in March is experiencing a significant outbreak of the illness.

At least a dozen crew members on the 2,534-passenger TUI Cruises vessel Mein Schiff 6 have tested positive for COVID-19, according to multiple news outlets in Greece.

The ship had just begun a seven-night voyage around Greece from the port of Heraklion in Crete.

Greek newspaper Proto Thema says the vessel is now heading to Piraeus, the port for Athens, by order of Greece’s General Secretariat for Civil Protection.

The news outlet says the 12 crew members who tested positive have been quarantined in their cabins, and the vessel has begun a contract tracing effort.

Breaking: COVID-19 breaks out on one of first ships to resume cruising
 
10ofRods said:
The main reason that older people die of CoVid, it seems, is that our immune systems start losing strength after age 60-65 (on average, obviously, some people it's older, some it's younger).

In order to combat CoVid, we need to have available T cells in our bone marrow (not just antibodies in our blood). The T cells are the memory system of immunity.

Each time we get a disease that creates antibodies, some T cells devote themselves to remembering how to produce those antibodies. So, we know that people who have had a different coronavirus in the past are very unlikely to have a severe course of CoVid. It's not easy to study this though and there are no cheap or even widely available tests for this.

As we age, the number of available T cells drops until there are no more left (average age of that is probably 85). Not only can the body not fight off new infections easily, it can't store memory of a new infection.

So, whether inside a nursing home or not, an elderly person has a much higher likelihood of dying from CoVid (or having a longterm set of symptoms or possibly even recurrences).

The number of total infections we've had in our lives (including, as I understand it, immune responses to vaccines) "uses up" the T cells - but if a new virus is closely related to one we've experienced, we do get a better response.

CoVid is a slow-mutating virus (fortunately) as compared to many rhinoviruses and to influenzas. Some people may have already had a prior version and therefore, despite being elderly, will be able to formulate a better immune response..

There are other effects from aging on immunity, but T cell immunity is key in fighting off CV. Our bodies need to be able to throw early responses at it and not move toward bradykine or cytokine storms (where the body attacks itself, basically, in attempt to kill the invader)
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I like what you've said. Note that we had been traveling by car in different states. I went to clinic in mid-January and was diagnosed with pneumonia. My illness, of course, was prior to any info about coronavirus. No one was talking about it nor was there a concern at the clinic or with the doctor. No masks. No social distancing.

I could not shake the illness, went back to the clinic in very early March - still had it. Different antibiotic worked. Recovered. Remembering that coronavirus attacks the lungs, maybe I had pneumonia, probably did, but maybe it was more than pneumonia.
 
SoCalDavidS said:
One of the first large cruise ships to resume sailings in the Mediterranean since the coronavirus-caused worldwide halt to cruising in March is experiencing a significant outbreak of the illness.

At least a dozen crew members on the 2,534-passenger TUI Cruises vessel Mein Schiff 6 have tested positive for COVID-19, according to multiple news outlets in Greece.

The ship had just begun a seven-night voyage around Greece from the port of Heraklion in Crete.

Greek newspaper Proto Thema says the vessel is now heading to Piraeus, the port for Athens, by order of Greece’s General Secretariat for Civil Protection.

The news outlet says the 12 crew members who tested positive have been quarantined in their cabins, and the vessel has begun a contract tracing effort.

Breaking: COVID-19 breaks out on one of first ships to resume cruising
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Just boggles my mind why anyone would take a cruise right now.
 
tresir2012 said:
If you want to think it will still be with us through next year that is fine. For myself, everything I have read is pointing to certain priorities/categories getting it this year. I have posted UK government links confirming this aim and getting prepared for it. Whether it goes to plan, we won't know till it happens.
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The US plan may not be the UK plan.
 
Brisbane’s major hospitals have had just one flu admission

Flu-related hospital admissions have plummeted from more than 900 to one with social distancing and hand hygiene the main reasons for the stunning drop.

Brisbane’s major public hospitals have had a dream run this winter with just one admission for influenza compared to more than 900 a year ago.

The remarkable and very welcome decline in flu-related admission comes after zealous coronavirus-inspired hygiene and social distancing and severe restrictions on indoor gatherings.

Boasting the perfect record is the Metro North Region, which last year had 526 influenza-related admissions during winter, but none this June, July or August.

According to Queensland Health’s ‘year-on-year’ reports, there have been some 60,000 fewer influenza cases — different to hospital admissions — detected in the Sunshine State than in 2019.
 
Trino said:
Just boggles my mind why anyone would take a cruise right now.
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I have to agree (even though we are going to stay at a casino in a couple weeks...) After all of the horror stories of being stranded onboard, I can't imagine choosing a cruise as a vacation. I don't know what it is, but I hear "cruise" and picture a giant, moist, floating Petri dish.
 
TootsieFootsie said:
Brisbane’s major hospitals have had just one flu admission

Flu-related hospital admissions have plummeted from more than 900 to one with social distancing and hand hygiene the main reasons for the stunning drop.

Brisbane’s major public hospitals have had a dream run this winter with just one admission for influenza compared to more than 900 a year ago.

The remarkable and very welcome decline in flu-related admission comes after zealous coronavirus-inspired hygiene and social distancing and severe restrictions on indoor gatherings.

Boasting the perfect record is the Metro North Region, which last year had 526 influenza-related admissions during winter, but none this June, July or August.

According to Queensland Health’s ‘year-on-year’ reports, there have been some 60,000 fewer influenza cases — different to hospital admissions — detected in the Sunshine State than in 2019.
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Wow. this is just amazing and such good news. It's clear evidence that hand washing, social distancing, and restrictions on gatherings goes a long way to keeping people healthy during CoVid too.
 
10ofRods said:
Which, of course, is really bad advice. <modsnip: politicizing>

That also means that Ohio's stats on active vs resolved cases is meaningless.

But - as long as faculty can social distance and wear masks (and I'd wear goggles if I were in a typical classroom), hopefully it will remain in the populations with the best immune systems.

Ohio's overall death rates have just crept higher than California's, but are still below the national average (however, New York and New Jersey really skewed that average - without them in the mix, Ohio would be at around the average death rate for the US - so far). Bears watching.
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Just jumping off your post, because it made me think of an Aussie show that I watched the other night, called Foreign Correspondent. A journo was travelling around the US, staying in an RV, viewing the state of things. He commented that Ohio is one of the 'richer' states filled with cornfields and other food sources, yet the many food banks there have long lines of people waiting for weekly handouts.
He said one food bank told him they give out 3,000-4,000 boxes of food each week, primarily to older people.


As unemployment remains high amid the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, more than 1 in 10 Ohioans say their household often did not have enough to eat because of difficulty affording food.
That’s a sharp increase from food-hardship levels before the crisis, hitting families with children and minorities the hardest.

The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities found:
  • 847,000 adults in Ohio, or 11%, reported their household sometimes or often didn’t have enough to eat in the last seven days.
  • 356,000 adults living with children in Ohio reported the children were not eating enough because they couldn’t afford food. That number is 13% of adults with kids in the house.
Hunger among Ohio families increasing as COVID-19 pandemic persists
 
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