Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #85

[Amonet]

The number of people already infected by the mystery virus emerging in China is far greater than official figures suggest, scientists have told the BBC.
There have been 41 laboratory-confirmed cases of the new virus, but UK experts estimate the figure is closer to 1,700.

New virus in China ‘will have infected hundreds'

Up to 4,500 patients in China may have caught the same strain of coronavirus that has killed two people, scientists fear.
Health officials in Wuhan – the city at the heart of the outbreak which started in December – confirmed four new cases today, taking the total to 48.
But Imperial College London researchers say this may be the 'tip of the iceberg' after analysing flights out of the city.

Scientists fear up to 4,500 Chinese patients may have caught the new coronavirus | Daily Mail Online

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[Sillybilly]

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[Sillybilly]

Hey everyone,

This thread is for sharing information, not debating or bickering or winning an argument.

State your opinion, post your link to info, then move on without feeling the need to comment on every single detail of every single post. It takes over the thread and none of us are here to hammer our own opinion into the heads of other members.

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[cass523]

More than 83,000 COVID-19 cases were confirmed Friday, which beat the previous daily record set during the summer surge.

"If 95% of the country wore masks, by the end of February it could save about 130,000 lives."

4 minutes

 

[Knitty]

I don't know if it would help with Covid, but for many years (and even now) I used a home-made cough syrup of cut raw onions in honey. Just chop or slice an onion and let it sit in honey for at least several hours or overnight. Then you will have a syrup as the honey draws out the onion juices. I always thought it helped, but it could just be the placebo effect. I still use it. Warmed rum with honey and lemon is also nice.

25 years ago was a flu year soooooooo bad. We didn't usually get it and docs never told us to get flu shots but it was dangerous for my asthma son. All of us got it but he and I had it much worse than the others. Docs gave my son codeine cough syrup but me nothing. My neighbor, a navy doc brought me a bottle of Grand Marnier. It was perfect and I've used it ever since. Straight up or in coffee. Perfect.

 

[margarita25]

 

[anneg]

Worcester Church Choir Finds Innovative Way to Practice Without Spreading COVID-19
more plus short vid at link
Members of the choir at Trinity Lutheran Church practice inside their cars in the parking lot. Members sing into wireless microphones while they listen to one another and to the director playing his keyboard on their car radios.
During indoor services, choir members distance themselves and wear masks that resemble a duck-billed platypus.



Vt. Community Group Adapts Haunted House for COVID-19 Era
More plus short vid at link
Guests will drive through the property in Highgate that in normal years hosts the Franklin County Field Days, not getting out of their vehicles, for a series of scary skits.
Ticket holders are told to keep face coverings on to guard against possibly transmitting the virus while screaming.
Passes for a few hundred carloads sold out completely, and quickly, the fire auxiliary’s president told NECN.
“People want normal,” Ashley Chevalier observed. “All our volunteers, when they showed up for our dress rehearsal, they just said, ‘It just feels good to see people,’ you know? It’s not normal, but this kind of felt a little bit normal again.”

Thanks, I shared the first article with our church choir director. We are rehearsing via Zoom, but we only hear ourselves and the choir director. We have masked and distanced recording sessions in a parking deck. We are not having indoor services at our church and I have no idea when we will be able to again. Sigh...

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Well, here is reality. I'm over 60, and a bunch of us always got together many times a year (a group of 30-50 folks 5 times a year).

One person sent out an invite to go to a large restaurant to get together for the holidays, and this was one persons response. Her inside Christmas party is still on!

"Sounds like a great idea.... I couldn't... as it's too close to my xmas party probably on Sunday the dec 6th" (e.d. where 40 folks usually attend indoors in a VERY small house shoulder to shoulder with buffet over a 4 hour period)

Please folks, y'all were talking about how to nicely educate others on how such gatherings are soooo very wrong right now. But I can only think to just sit on hands and reply "I'm not going to crowd gatherings until into next year".

Does anyone who has been talking about "kindly educating" others have a comeback? I'm just sitting on hands vs. trying to educate a bunch of EDUCATED FOLKS in this group. I just cannot fathom any response to a group of 40 on this email invite for 2 inside gatherings during a damn pandemic.

WTH? What's a gal to do? Anything I say will appear sanctimonious? SMDH... I just have to sit on hands and not even discuss? How to handle?

My mum (70's) kept getting messages from a lifelong friend... Shall we meet for lunch in the local town.... In the end my mum messaged back "I'm sorry but we're not socialising with anyone at the moment until the situation settles down". She hasnt heard back, but isnt too worried, she was far more anxious about being exposed at a lunch she didnt want to go to.

 

[mickey2942]

25 years ago was a flu year soooooooo bad. We didn't usually get it and docs never told us to get flu shots but it was dangerous for my asthma son. All of us got it but he and I had it much worse than the others. Docs gave my son codeine cough syrup but me nothing. My neighbor, a navy doc brought me a bottle of Grand Marnier. It was perfect and I've used it ever since. Straight up or in coffee. Perfect.

I remember that flu. I had it, it lasted literally for weeks. I was in a fugue state, functioning, barely, from when I got up, until I could crawl to my bed after giving the kids something for dinner.

Never missed a flu shot since. I am in serious mortal fear of Covid. I am now, 25 years older. I won't be able to recover if this hits me like that flu did.

 

[cass523]

Refresher

There are 30 different conditions that can lower your vitamin D level

Vitamin D and its ability to help the immune system fight off diseases like the coronavirus.

"Former trauma surgeon Dr. L. Ray Matthews discusses research looking into the potential impact of vitamin D in the fight against the coronavirus."

Vitamin D, is a hormone that increases white blood cell count. White blood cells fight off bacteria, viruses, and fungus.

"When vitamin D levels are less than 18 NG/ML, that is the amount of vitamin D level in your blood. your risk of death goes up for all causes. There is coronavirus, regular pneumonia, flu, traumatic brain injuries, and gunshot victims."

 

[cass523]

Can cannabis help treat COVID-19?

"There is a drug that actually was approved by the FDA, to go into phase one clinical trials by the end of the year. It is a synthetic cannabinoid and it is being targeted to be studied in patients with that so-called cytokine-storm to reduce the inflammation."

2:10

 

[anneg]

I don't know if it would help with Covid, but for many years (and even now) I used a home-made cough syrup of cut raw onions in honey. Just chop or slice an onion and let it sit in honey for at least several hours or overnight. Then you will have a syrup as the honey draws out the onion juices. I always thought it helped, but it could just be the placebo effect. I still use it. Warmed rum with honey and lemon is also nice.

Thanks for sharing what you do. So if there is no need to cook the onion, that simplifies the recipe a bit... I believe if you don't have honey, you can cover the onion slices with regular sugar.

Rum with honey and lemon sounds like a yummy remedy!

 

[Knitty]

I remember that flu. I had it, it lasted literally for weeks. I was in a fugue state, functioning, barely, from when I got up, until I could crawl to my bed after giving the kids something for dinner.

Never missed a flu shot since. I am in serious mortal fear of Covid. I am now, 25 years older. I won't be able to recover if this hits me like that flu did.

That's the one. EVERYBODY had it. I'm going to try to look up that year. It ruined Christmas where we are. Pharmacies were overrun trying to fill scrips and we had to drop them off and come back hours later. We also have never missed a flu shot since. And this year, my pharmacist offered to check my vaccine status and recommended boosters for several. I'm terrified of COVID. I've never forgotten how incredibly bad it was for us, nor how long it took to get over it.

 

[dmac55]

Well, here is reality. I'm over 60, and a bunch of us always got together many times a year (a group of 30-50 folks 5 times a year).

One person sent out an invite to go to a large restaurant to get together for the holidays, and this was one persons response. Her inside Christmas party is still on!

"Sounds like a great idea.... I couldn't... as it's too close to my xmas party probably on Sunday the dec 6th" (e.d. where 40 folks usually attend indoors in a VERY small house shoulder to shoulder with buffet over a 4 hour period)

Please folks, y'all were talking about how to nicely educate others on how such gatherings are soooo very wrong right now. But I can only think to just sit on hands and reply "I'm not going to crowd gatherings until into next year".

Does anyone who has been talking about "kindly educating" others have a comeback? I'm just sitting on hands vs. trying to educate a bunch of EDUCATED FOLKS in this group. I just cannot fathom any response to a group of 40 on this email invite for 2 inside gatherings during a damn pandemic.

WTH? What's a gal to do? Anything I say will appear sanctimonious? SMDH... I just have to sit on hands and not even discuss? How to handle?

I'm right there with you

I don't attempt to educate strangers because I'm scared of their potential reaction after stories in the news

I have made my opinions and decisions clear to friends and family

I'm at a point where i no longer can come up with reasons why people would think it's a bother or restrictive to their personal freedom to protect others

So i adjust decisions i make accordingly
I felt guilty for some time, and like an old fuddy duddy, but not now

I'm good with the exception of toddler aged great grandchildren
They don't understand why i can't come over and play

My views/experiences

 

[BlueShoe]

I feel like we are really heading into a crisis situation and our government is missing in action. Sorry to be in panic mode, but I would at least like to hear some kind of admission about what is happening in the U.S. Wishful thinking is nice and all, but at some point we have to face a serious reality. I hope I'm overstating things, but it does not feel good. MOO

 

[dixiegirl1035]

This is v interesting thanks. I am female, over 50, higher than should be BMI. I (believe I) had mild, but more than 5 symptoms.

I had a text today to say my random covid antigen test was received at the lab and could I complete the online questionnaire. As I was answering the questions, it took me to "how long have you had long covid"... which it had picked up from my answers. I was shocked to input 7 months!!! Still hoping they may send me an antibody test as a follow up.

You are having an antigen test for virus (dead?) particles still? Whoa, it guess that there is a study still going on for remaining antigen particles. I had never known such investigations for 7 months.

Interesting.

 

[Trino]

Well, just great. Another spreader.

As millions of Americans converge to vote in one of the most contentious elections in U.S. history, police forces across the nation are taking unprecedented steps to brace for potential disruption at the polls and post-election violence.

Police Are Preparing for the Election ‘In Ways They Never Would Have Had To’ Before 2020

Expectations are riots.
Americans Are Frantically Buying Military Gear Before the Election

 

[MimosaMornings]

Cases Skyrocket As Superspreader Church Refuses to Host COVID Testing — The Daily Beast

“An annual, multi-day gathering at a massive Charlotte, North Carolina-based church has emerged as a likely superspreader event, feeding the largest COVID-19 outbreak in the county and apparently infecting at least 82 people, three of whom have died, according to local officials.

The clash between in-person worship and pandemic guidelines has sparked outrage, tension, and superspreader events in recent weeks all over the country—from California to Maine. Adding insult to injury at the outbreak in Charlotte, officials and health providers said that the church refused to let anyone set up on-site testing.

“We’ve offered our services and offered our services with no response,” Sylvia Grier, a management services officer at the nonprofit Genesis Project, a local mental and behavioral health agency that offers free coronavirus testing to residents, told The Daily Beast.”

All United House of Prayer buildings ordered closed over ‘grave’ COVID-19 concerns — The Charlotte Observer

“All United House of Prayer for All People buildings in Mecklenburg County were ordered closed Saturday over “grave concerns” about the ongoing spread of COVID-19 linked to the church.

Health Director Gibbie Harris said she ordered the buildings closed beginning at 10 a.m. Saturday after 121 confirmed cases of the virus and at least three deaths were linked to the church. A fourth death is under investigation, Harris said at a morning news conference.

The “abatement of an imminent hazard” order announced Saturday will remain in effect until midnight Nov. 5. It appears to be the first time the county has used such an order from the health director to force compliance during the coronavirus pandemic.”

“The church “failed or refused” to ensure social distancing and other COVID-19 preventive measures, it said.

Church leaders won’t provide a list of attendees so health officials can conduct contact tracing and notify people that they may have been exposed, Harris said. Cases may have spread to five states, according to the order, which doesn’t name the states.”

Sigh.

 

[anneg]

I remember that flu. I had it, it lasted literally for weeks. I was in a fugue state, functioning, barely, from when I got up, until I could crawl to my bed after giving the kids something for dinner.

Never missed a flu shot since. I am in serious mortal fear of Covid. I am now, 25 years older. I won't be able to recover if this hits me like that flu did.

These comments led me to do a little searching. I found an interesting article (NY Times) about a bad flu in late 1994 and early 1995 in the New York region.

Flu Casts Fevered Misery Across New York Region (Published 1995)

The flu and cold season has singled out New York with particular fury this year. While much of the country has remained unusually healthy this winter, many New Yorkers have coughed, sneezed and wheezed their way into the new year.

Based on the surveillance system used by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization, as of Jan. 6 more than 60 percent of the nation's flu cases were in New York, with Connecticut, Kentucky, Maryland and Virginia also reporting significant numbers of flu cases.

...The article notes that most of the cases were caused by a strain of the influenza A virus that was new to the U.S., so people lacked immunity to it.

A CDC report published in 2000 discusses the 1994-95, 1995-96, and 1996-67 flu seasons (BBM):

Surveillance for Influenza --- United States, 1994--95, 1995--96, and 1996--97 Seasons
Surveillance for Influenza --- United States, 1994--95, 1995--96, and 1996--97 Seasons

Excerpt:
The 1996--97 season was the most severe of the three seasons summarized in this report. Thirty-nine state epidemiologists reported regional or widespread activity at the peak of the season. ILI [influenza-like illness] reports exceeded baseline levels for 5 consecutive weeks, peaking at 7%. The proportion of respiratory specimens positive for influenza peaked at 34%, with influenza A(H3N2) viruses predominating. Influenza B viruses were identified throughout the United States, but only one influenza A(H1N1) virus isolate was reported overall. The proportion of deaths attributed to P&I [pneumonia & influenza] exceeded the epidemic threshold for 10 consecutive weeks, peaking at 9.1%.

For what it's worth!

 

[anneg]

All United House of Prayer buildings ordered closed over ‘grave’ COVID-19 concerns — The Charlotte Observer

“All United House of Prayer for All People buildings in Mecklenburg County were ordered closed Saturday over “grave concerns” about the ongoing spread of COVID-19 linked to the church.

Health Director Gibbie Harris said she ordered the buildings closed beginning at 10 a.m. Saturday after 121 confirmed cases of the virus and at least three deaths were linked to the church. A fourth death is under investigation, Harris said at a morning news conference.

The “abatement of an imminent hazard” order announced Saturday will remain in effect until midnight Nov. 5. It appears to be the first time the county has used such an order from the health director to force compliance during the coronavirus pandemic.”

“The church “failed or refused” to ensure social distancing and other COVID-19 preventive measures, it said.

Church leaders won’t provide a list of attendees so health officials can conduct contact tracing and notify people that they may have been exposed, Harris said. Cases may have spread to five states, according to the order, which doesn’t name the states.”

Sigh.

BBM: Glad to hear this. I can't comprehend how this (all of it) happens.