Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #85

[dixiegirl1035]

Federal Documents Show Which Hospitals Are Filling Up With COVID Patients : Shots - Health News : NPR


Tracking Our COVID-19 Response - covidexitstrategy.org

Internal Documents Reveal COVID-19 Hospitalization Data The Government Keeps Hidden

Thanks for those excellent links @sds71. I found this group of folks from Duke University and University of Washington (who does the IHME modelling) interesting and very educational to fill in my ignorance, especially covering on visuals what the trending is in a way I have never seen presented before. It was a link in a link that you gave above.

They discussed that South Dakota had yesterday (from filming) a 40% positivity rate on their testing

 

[drama_farmer]

Federal Documents Show Which Hospitals Are Filling Up With COVID Patients : Shots - Health News : NPR


Tracking Our COVID-19 Response - covidexitstrategy.org

Internal Documents Reveal COVID-19 Hospitalization Data The Government Keeps Hidden

Here's just one of many graphics that can be found at the above link:

 

[beatrixpotter]

presumably they are now doing as much contact tracing as possible. every school district here decided whether to be virtual, hybrid or in person. some have flipped to more or all virtual if there have been cases. they also shut down and clean. the stats and contract tracing show most outbreaks were not from the school environment. where I live the younger kids are "hybrid" and go for half days- I think every other week- that allows social distancing- and divides the school population into two separate groups. agree that smaller kids take off masks... have seen them in stores wriggling out of them. It is a lot to ask them to understand the whole thing.

Sadly we know they are not doing more contact tracing or adequate tracing in many places. They never allocated a proper budget to it and people are overwhelmed. My local schools are actively hiding cases. And tracers I know have been told to essentially not bother because there is no way they can even keep up. We desperately need more contact tracing. But from what I've seen and heard that is not being implemented.

My sil and her kids are in a state with like 2 days a week and things carefully divided up in the student population. But numbers are rising rapidly there. And their school is not informing parents of cases unless they decide it directly impacts X student.

They were feeling better at first. But she said she came by over recess and NO kids were wearing masks on the playground except her own. Then it was basically her and a couple of older people.

Sadly being outside alone is good but doesn't properly space anything. I have friends who got sick spending the day outside camping with other friends. No sharing tents. But no masks worn outside either. 3 families all got covid. One of the father's hospitalized.

That said I in no way trust the info coming from schools who are trying to appease their governors by keeping schools open. There is no way it's only being spread everywhere but in schools. The rapid rise across states also coincides with school reopenings.

I'm sure it's not close to the only factor. I just at this point find it difficult to trust the information coming out since we know for a fact states and their governments federal and local are trying to hide information. They most certainly are for sure in my state. So much fighting to get information released to the public.

 

[Trino]

District 196, one of the largest school districts in the State of Minnesota, originally had a hybrid learning model. Today the district announced COMPLETE online learning beginning November 12 for grades 6-12.

The district has 49 positive student coronavirus cases currently, a total of 126 since Sept. 14, and 664 students currently in quarantine. Among staff, there are 13 positive cases right now, 32 cumulative since Sept. 14 and 74 teachers in quarantine. The case positivity rate for Dakota County is 6.2% compared to a state average of 5.8%.

Rosemount-Apple Valley-Eagan schools switching to distance learning for some after COVID-19 increase

 

[beatrixpotter]

Trying to figure out WHY people are attending Trump rallies. Most who go are already Trump supporters so why are they putting their health on the line to attend?

Good point. People aren't attending rallies who are undecided and are just looking to be swayed one way or the other. But if these people represent some of the ones I know and am related to they are convinced it's all conspiracies. It's not as bad as they say and not near as many people are sick. They honestly do not believe they are risking their lives.

They think they are fighting being oppressed. The oppressors are the people who want to save them from a virus that's just meant to steal their freedoms from them. How do we seriously address this virus in our country when so many people are literally infected with crazy conspiracy theories?

 

[musicaljoke]

Dakotas are in a learning stage. A bit late.

I suppose everyone is in a learning stage, but there is an atrociously high price to be paid for not getting your education from the best school, and for showing up late for class.

 

[acutename]

Can someone help me out? I used to check the covid19 health data page and I thought that was where they showed the actual raw numbers per state of how many icu beds were in use and how many were available. Now I'm only seeing graphs. Am I looking at the wrong site, or am I just not looking at the right place on the site to get those numbers?

this;

COVID-19 Data Dashboard – Patient Impact & Hospital Capacity

(has an update from July however...)

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Here's just one of many graphics that can be found at the above link:

I wanted to do about 10 screenshots from the above video! As I learned so much. I just wish that MSM would pick up on just a little of what the scientists have found. Alas, there has been destruction of learning and trust in science these days. (and no, don't wanna go into what I see STILL to this day being espoused by some in leadership positions trying to discount scientists by saying "first they told us not to wear masks" Grrrr. There is so much to show how masks work, they are cheap and easy and don't shut down the economy. SMDH as so simple)

 

[CSIDreamer]

It's important to stay in touch with people.

Social Isolation: A Predictor of Mortality Comparable to Traditional Clinical Risk Factors

The hidden Covid-19 health crisis: Elderly people are dying from isolation

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Yes, the sooner that we get the rates down the better for all of the fallout with other conditions due to restrictions of other procedures, and for these mental health issues.

As to freedom, the faster correct the trend that we are limited due to the virus, the better.

I found that the information that mandates for mask wearing (which reduces) is better than voluntary is more effective that having recommendations (although ties up $$$$ for states and localities with all the lawsuits that are against such). Peer pressure in some groups to NOT wear a mask perhaps is seen as a stigma for those that want to wear them. As we are seeing.......

MOO

 

[Reasonable & Just]

Tens of thousands of Parisians last night caused massive traffic jams in a desperate attempt to flee the French capital ahead of the start of Emmanuel Macron's new national shutdown.

The night air was filled with the sound of blaring car horns while social media users estimated that Parisians had created 'hundreds of miles' of gridlock to escape to their second homes in the country.

Meanwhile French people emptied supermarkets in a repeat of the panic-buying that swept Europe in March as Parisians and other city dwellers prepared for a month in confinement.

Shoppers stocked up on pasta and toilet roll while people queued outside hairdressers for a final trim.

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Coronavirus France: Gridlock as people flee Paris before lockdown | Daily Mail Online

Ugh. This on top of the recent terrorism. None of it's good. None of it. Though I suppose it's better if the schools are open, providing they are safe and secure. Just hope they all stay safe and these measures work.

 

[GRT]

I guess it could mean there were 152 high school aged boys. With the counselors and staff being over and above that number. If so, it was not explained very well.

I thought they may have just transposed 152 and 156, but either way, it's a very high infection rate.

 

[musicaljoke]

I thought they may have just transposed 152 and 156, but either way, it's a very high infection rate.

Indeed it is. Sadly, it didn't need to happen at all. Summer Camps all around the world were cancelled because it would have been nearly impossible to keep the events Covid-free. But this summer camp seemed to make very little effort to put public health recommendations into practice.

One good thing to see though, is that contact tracing was done and cases have been tracked.

 

[margarita25]

Tens of thousands of Parisians last night caused massive traffic jams in a desperate attempt to flee the French capital ahead of the start of Emmanuel Macron's new national shutdown.

The night air was filled with the sound of blaring car horns while social media users estimated that Parisians had created 'hundreds of miles' of gridlock to escape to their second homes in the country.

Meanwhile French people emptied supermarkets in a repeat of the panic-buying that swept Europe in March as Parisians and other city dwellers prepared for a month in confinement.

Shoppers stocked up on pasta and toilet roll while people queued outside hairdressers for a final trim.

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Coronavirus France: Gridlock as people flee Paris before lockdown | Daily Mail Online

Yes, and all this after that horrible terrorist attack in Nice, and the previous attack. Double whammy in France right now.

wow, look at that photo.

Indeed it is. Sadly, it didn't need to happen at all. Summer Camps all around the world were cancelled because it would have been nearly impossible to keep the events Covid-free. But this summer camp seemed to make very little effort to put public health recommendations into practice.

One good thing to see though, is that contact tracing was done and cases have been tracked.

Contact tracing? What’s that?

 

[weepingangel]

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[margarita25]

this;

COVID-19 Data Dashboard – Patient Impact & Hospital Capacity

(has an update from July however...)

Yeah...sadly, the CDC has, uh, undergone some uh, “changes” to their reporting, documentation, etc. imo.
Like I said to @Seenit when I was looking for guidance, etc., I don’t trust the CDC anymore with a lot of things on record and this is SAD. They have been bullied, and there are articles to prove it. If anyone needs a link or more reference/explanation to support this statement, please ask, as I don’t want to be repetitious.

When was the last time we heard from Dr. Messonnier? Making note.

 

[10ofRods]

Trying to figure out WHY people are attending Trump rallies. Most who go are already Trump supporters so why are they putting their health on the line to attend?

The podcast by Michael Cohen is helping me understand this. There's a huge appeal to being on reality TV. It reminds me of the so many people show up for try-outs for shows like Fear Factor and others. Even though only a few make it on the show, the thrill of being near a celebrity/cameras is worth it for so many people.

Then, of course, the attendees don't believe there really is a virus. And that if they get it, it's no big deal (which is true for at least half of them, I figure).

 

[margarita25]

In case anyone is wondering, I’m now a “goggle expert”.

Yes, I spent HOURS yesterday studying various goggles and safety glasses.

Gosh, think about all the things we have learned and studied this year...the learning curve has been immense. My brain can’t take anymore.

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Eta:
So, are you guys ready for this next phase from hell? Yes, technically it has been one big wave in many ways, as Fauci and other have mentioned, but as far as planning for the upcoming months, welcome to hell imo. There also could be civil unrest ahead, imo.

As I mentioned previously, I have been planning for this for several months now and every single extra penny has gone towards this cause, slowly collecting an extra bag of rice here and there, an extra can of soup, and extra jar of marinara... I will be discussing this more in detail over in the specific grocery thread. I have learned a lot. I am also very happy to report that after immense efforts via different retailers, I am now stocked and loaded to be able to survive for the next three months, maybe more. Freezer is stocked, pantry is stocked. And I’ve got more exercise equipment to stare at and pile clothes on.

I just want to say generally that this is the time to kick it up, call your docs about your meds, get that extra big bag of dog food, whatever it is. For us in the colder states and areas it is going to be extra difficult.

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This struck a chord. I think when it started, and there were comparisons with the 1918 pandemic, most people (me included) thought that with technological and medical advancement we'd have this virus kicked in the butt much faster. We have instant communication, vast scientific progress over the century, and much improved hospital facilities and treatments. Yet we have evolved into the 'quick fix' generation you mentioned, and people just can't accept it could be many more months until it's anywhere near over. And it IS a massive bloody inconvenience like it was a hundred years ago - we're just not used to dealing with that any more!

This reminds me, I saw somewhere, perhaps Dr. Gupta saying that the models wrt deaths are tracking right along with the similar numbers as the 1918 flu, gah hard to explain. I believe it’s this interview / watching it again to pull exact quote.

 

[margarita25]

Dbm consolidate

 

[anneg]

So, are you guys ready for this next phase from hell? Yes, technically it has been one big wave in many ways, as Fauci and other have mentioned, but as far as planning for the upcoming months, welcome to hell imo. There also could be civil unrest ahead, imo.

As I mentioned previously, I have been planning for this for several months now and every single extra penny has gone towards this cause, slowly collecting an extra bag of rice here and there, an extra can of soup, and extra jar of marinara... I will be discussing this more in detail over in the specific grocery thread. I have learned a lot. I am also very happy to report that after immense efforts via different retailers, I am now stocked and loaded to be able to survive for the next three months, maybe more. Freezer is stocked, pantry is stocked. And I’ve got more exercise equipment to stare at and pile clothes on.

I just want to say generally that this is the time to kick it up, call your docs about your meds, get that extra big bag of dog food, whatever it is. For us in the colder states and areas it is going to be extra difficult.

RS&BBM
Re the civil unrest issue, I was concerned about that early on, when we had shutdowns and people were losing their jobs. But now I'm more concerned than ever.

I'll look for your comments in the grocery thread.

I laughed at this: I’ve got more exercise equipment to stare at and pile clothes on.
If I had any exercise equipment, I'm sure it would be used to pile clothes on!

Thanks for your many valuable contributions to this and other threads, Margarita. Stay well this winter. I hope we all will.