Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #91

[anneg]

This is another source re: can you get the Covid-19 vaccine while infected or recently exposed
(I don't know that there is one true answer - most information only addresses if you've had Covid-19 and recovered, including this article)

Dr. Chris Ohl, infectious disease expert at Wake Forest Baptist Health Medical Center
Dr. Rebecca Bean, senior vice president of pharmacy at Novant Health

If you had the virus or you are recovering, doctors say you don't necessarily need to wait 30 days.

Rather, you can get the vaccine when you don't have any symptoms, and when your quarantine period is over.

As for when to get the vaccine if you received a monoclonal antibody treatment, you will need to wait 90 days.

How soon can you get a COVID vaccine after having COVID: VERIFY | wfmynews2.com
How soon can you get a COVID vaccine after having COVID: VERIFY | wfmynews2.com

Thanks, this makes it pretty clear.

 

[WichitaFalls]

Dallas County confirms its first case of more contagious coronavirus variant
Dallas County on Saturday reported its first known case of the new, more contagious coronavirus variant. It’s the third known case in Texas.
The new strain, known as B.1.1.7., was confirmed in a man in his 20s who hadn’t traveled recently, according to the county. More at link
Dallas County confirms its first case of more contagious coronavirus variant

 

[margarita25]

Doh!

Austria:

 

[margarita25]

(Sorry for double post, it’s quiet in here)

 

[MimosaMornings]

It’s survival fatigue...it’s been almost a year with more tears/sadness than laughter/good times.

 

[sds71]

The Coronavirus Is Evolving Before Our Eyes
The virus is mutating as expected. We can still stop it.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/01/coronavirus-mutations-variants/617694/

 

[Rose in SC]

Talking about vaccines . . . South Carolina ranked one of the worst in the country for COVID-19 vaccine administration | WBTW

"New data from the Centers for Disease Control shows South Carolina ranked second to last in vaccine roll-out. State health leaders say they are working twice as hard to overcome that hurdle.

They say demand is at an all-time high; especially since adding individuals seventy and older to the 1-A list. Dr. Danielle Scheurer from the Medical University of South Carolina says they are fighting a two-pronged battle. “There are two constraints. One is how much vaccine do we have and the second is how many team members do we have to do the vaccinations,” says Dr. Sheurer."

My county of 40,000+ has received ZERO vaccines. The nearest town to get the vaccine is 30 to 40 miles away in the next county over.

 

[Yesiamapirate]

Watching the NFL Rams play the Packers. So many fans in the stands. It almost looks like the 'old days'..........I am not sure what their Covid capacity is but it is the fullest stadium I have seen in a while.
ETA...watching on my local Fox channel. It is really strange to see the stands.

 

[margarita25]

(Via @sds71)

@MacFarlaneNews

NEW: Another US House member tests positive for COVID-19
Rep. Lou Correa (D-CA).

Rep. Correa was barricaded inside US House chamber on Jan 6. .. and he lives in and represents an area of California suffering a severe shortage of ICU beds

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(Via @dixiegirl1035)

Eric Feigl-Ding@DrEricDing2h
BREAKING—alt-right insurrectionist who stormed the Capitol **while #COVID19 positive** has been arrested by the FBI near Houston. Tim Gionet aka “Baked Alaska” live streamed for 27 minutes from inside the Capitol & falsely identified himself as media.

Video at link streamed in offices WARNING: Curse words

 

[MimosaMornings]

To My Anti-Masker 'Friend': I'm Not A 'Sheeple', I Am A Worried Mother — Scary Mommy

 

[LadyL]

Post-COVID lungs worse than the worst smokers' lungs, surgeon says

 

[ilovewings]

I was watching a program that showed baseball being played in 1919- ( it was about the crooked White Sox)- anyway, there were crowds and remember the Spanish Flu Pandemic occurred in 1918-- by 1919 the country was apparently back to normal. There was obviously no vaccines at that time- so how did life get back to normal? how did the virus just go poof? just thinking---

 

[Yesiamapirate]

I was watching a program that showed baseball being played in 1919- ( it was about the crooked White Sox)- anyway, there were crowds and remember the Spanish Flu Pandemic occurred in 1918-- by 1919 the country was apparently back to normal. There was obviously no vaccines at that time- so how did life get back to normal? how did the virus just go poof? just thinking---

Good question. This article is interesting. Sadly, Covid 19 may not behave like the influenza. MOO

How Does a Pandemic End?

 

[24Roses]

Iowa numbers today: 1,333 new confirmed cases, 1,481 new recoveries, and 64 more were reported to have passed away. 80 were hospitalized in the last 24 hrs. for a total of 505 (-8). Jan. 16: 64 more deaths related to COVID-19, death toll over 4,300

 

[10ofRods]

Hundreds get COVID vaccine at ‘double secret’ vaccination clinic at state fairgrounds — The State

“South Carolina’s health department held an unpublicized mass vaccination clinic Friday at the state fairgrounds in Columbia that drew hundreds of people who waited in their cars for hours to secure doses of the scarce COVID-19 vaccine.

“We heard about it this morning when a friend texted us to say she had heard that DHEC was running the vaccination program at the fairgrounds for people over 70,” said Jay Bender, an attorney who sometimes represents the South Carolina Press Association and The State newspaper.”

Um...how did these recipients find out about it? Sounds shady as heck. What was the rubric??

 

[seekingjustice**]

Australian officials seeking information from Pfizer, Norwegian experts after aged care residents die following coronavirus jab.
'Proceeding with an abundance of caution': Australia asks for more information on Pfizer jab after Norwegian deaths

Norwegian officials said 23 people had died in the country a short time after receiving their first dose of the vaccine. Of those deaths, 13 have been autopsied, with the results suggesting that common side effects may have contributed to severe reactions in frail, elderly people, according to the Norwegian Medicines Agency.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

 

[10ofRods]

Good question. This article is interesting. Sadly, Covid 19 may not behave like the influenza. MOO

How Does a Pandemic End?

It *does* not. It's not an hypothesis any more, IMO.

If COVID behaved like influenza, it would not have killed more than 1 in 1000 Americans (and in many places globally, it's a higher percentage).

Influenza also doesn't cause the lungs to look like a 20-30 year smoker's lungs after just 2-6 weeks.

 

[Yesiamapirate]

It *does* not. It's not an hypothesis any more, IMO.

If COVID behaved like influenza, it would not have killed more than 1 in 1000 Americans (and in many places globally, it's a higher percentage).

Influenza also doesn't cause the lungs to look like a 20-30 year smoker's lungs after just 2-6 weeks.

I totally agree. I hope we get enough people vaccinated to get herd immunity. I believe covid will be with us a long time. We will just manage it better

 

[10ofRods]

I totally agree. I hope we get enough people vaccinated to get herd immunity. I believe covid will be with us a long time. We will just manage it better

There is some (marginally) good news on this topic. Apparently, the way some formerly serious viruses become less fatal is due to constant re-challenges to the immune system. So people who have had COVID and people who get the vaccine, collectively, will still encounter COVID - but this will just reactivate and recharge their already acceptable immune response.

People who have never had COVID (perhaps younger people who don't get innoculated and grow up or people in more isolated areas) will remain at high risk. At that point, it won't be pandemic.

It's very sad to think that all our beautiful little kids face an uncertain future if their parents resist vaccinating them. The parents will likely get COVID (and either die/be permanently in ill health - or simply be immune and happy campers).

But their children can still get it. That will be a different phase, so hopefully people will allow their kids a vaccine, as they do with measles...

In the meantime, if ⅓ of the population gets COVID (and in Los Angeles, where I live, we had 3% positive before December, right now ⅓ is positive - making a total of 36% or more - given that my timeline has some missing pieces in it)...then about 40% will have some immunity (probably not lifelong). Add to that all the vaccinated (groups may overlap) and yes, we may get to much lower COVID rates due to something like herd immunity.

But it's basically either get a vaccine or get COVID. For everyone, eventually. There will be some lucky ones especially in rural areas with little social contact. Smallpox worked the same way.

I know which group I want to be in (vaccinated).

For other places (say Hawaii or Utah), with only 1% having had COVID...vaccines are crucial.

 

[10ofRods]

I was watching a program that showed baseball being played in 1919- ( it was about the crooked White Sox)- anyway, there were crowds and remember the Spanish Flu Pandemic occurred in 1918-- by 1919 the country was apparently back to normal. There was obviously no vaccines at that time- so how did life get back to normal? how did the virus just go poof? just thinking---

Keep in mind that average life expectancy at that time was about 63 for women and 60 for men in the US. "Normal" was a much shorter life.

Life expectancy in the US has averaged around 77-78 for a decade. Losing 15 years could become the "new normal." The average is brought further down by multiple younger people dying, obviously (as with the flu).