Coronavirus Global Health Emergency, 2019-nCoV #2

[gregjrichards]

A 44 year old man in the Philippines has died from the virus Sky News U.K is reporting. The man is from Wuhan in China.

you forgot the link?

It is breaking news on the news bulletin no link yet. I’m trying to find one.

Edited to add link

A 44-year-old man has died as a result of coronavirus in the Philippines, the World Health Organization says. The Wuhan resident who traveled to the Philippines is the first known person to have died outside China from the virus.

First Person Outside of China Dies From Virus in Philippines

 

[Inthedetails]

you forgot the link?

I'm not gregjrichards, the OP, but here's a link:


First novel coronavirus death outside China reported in Philippines

 

[dixiegirl1035]

you forgot the link?

World Health Organization Philippines on Twitter

World Health Organization Philippines
@WHOPhilippines
A 44-year-old male is confirmed as the second person with the 2019 novel coronavirus acute respiratory disease (2019-nCoV) in the Philippines. He passed away on 1 February 2020

From Inthedetails link..

DOH said a 44-year-old man who was admitted to the San Lazaro Hospital on January 25, died Saturday. He was the partner of the first confirmed case of novel coronavirus in the Philippines.

“Over the course of the patient’s admission he developed severe pneumonia. In his last few days, the patient was stable and showed signs of improvement. However, the condition of the patient deteriorated within the last 24 hours resulting in his demise,” DOH Secretary Francisco Duque III.

 

[margarita25]

A 44 year old man in the Philippines has died from the virus Sky News U.K is reporting. The man is from Wuhan in China.

I’m noticing not all these people are exactly children or seniors. I wonder if these people who are middle age so to speak, had other health problems. If these people are not immuno-compromised or have other health issues, then this could possibly indicate that this virus may strongly affect even those who don’t fall into the traditional categories.

I recall from a conference (iirc, the great Ontario one) that one factor is trying to determine “if the person died from the disease or with the disease”.

-Let’s hope the young man in Boston recovers. He is 22. That is not a child, nor a senior.

 

[gregjrichards]

I’m noticing not all these people are exactly children or seniors. I wonder if these people who are middle age so to speak, had other health problems. If these people are not immuno-compromised or have other health issues, then this could possibly indicate that this virus may strongly affect even those who don’t fall into the traditional categories.

I recall from a conference (iirc, the great Ontario one) that one factor is trying to determine “if the person died from the disease or with the disease”.

-Let’s hope the young man in Boston recovers. He is 22. That is not a child, nor a senior.

Over the course of the patient’s admission, he developed severe pneumonia, it said.

Philippines reports first coronavirus fatality, second confirmed infection

The man who died in the Philippines contracted severe pneumonia which can be deadly even if you are not young, elderly or immuno compromised.

 

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X-Ray Pictures Reveal The Extent Of The Coronavirus on The Body — LADbible

“New pictures have come to light that reveal what the coronavirus
does to vital organs like the lungs, even on healthy bodies. The X-Ray images show how the virus spreads in the lungs and can affect the respiratory system, making it difficult for the sufferer to breathe.”

BBM

 

[Tadpole12]

Oh. No.
"While this is the first confirmed death due to the novel coroavirus outside of China, the WHO in the Phillipines said this is not a locally-acquired case."

First novel coronavirus death outside China reported in Philippines

 

[MJPeony]

Are there any statistics on age group breakdown of people who have gotten the virus?

 

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305 Deaths
340 Recovered

I was really hoping that we would see the number of recovered outpacing the number of deaths by a wider margin by now.

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Are there any statistics on age group breakdown of people who have gotten the virus?

I’ve been looking for that info to no avail. If that information is out there, it’s not being widely publicized.

 

[MJPeony]

I’ve been looking for that info to no avail. If that information is out there, it’s not being widely publicized.

I can’t find a THING about the ages of those infected in China. It’s very bizarre.

I did find this- infant in Chicago being tested- last update was last night and the results hadn’t been received yet. Wonder when we’ll hear.
Infant Related to Illinois Coronavirus Patient Develops Fever, Is Being Tested, Family Says

 

[margarita25]

“Hours before the death was announced, the Philippines temporarily banned visitors arriving from mainland China, Hong Kong and Macau, a government official said in an interview on GMA News TV.”

Coronavirus Live Updates: Philippines Reports First Death Outside China as Toll Passes 300

 

[mickey2942]

I’ve been looking for that info to no avail. If that information is out there, it’s not being widely publicized.

Just by guesswork, since the first people affected were workers from the wet market, it is probably people who are working age, not young people or elderly people.

 

[Amonet]

I’ve seen that statement as they compare it to prior varieties of coronavirus, but have they actually confirmed that with this particular strain? I don’t recall any confirmation on the possible incubation period for this strain either.
I may have very well missed it, but most of the reports I’ve read are making assumptions based on what has been historically the norm.

I guess you might be right, but on the other hand I believe that the time on a surface is probably more species-characteristics-dependent. For instance environmental conditions to kill a mammal shouldn't be very different depending on species -- this would be things like the temperature a creature can survive, how long it can survive without water or oxygen. So whether it's a horse or a human, it shouldn't be too different. The thing that makes a coronavirus a coronavirus is its structure, so each of them should have similar structural vulnerabilities like the horse and the human do. But if you were to compare a coronavirus with an anthrax virus then it's more like comparing a human and a fish, they'll have different environmental conditions that are compatible with either survival or death.

 

[margarita25]

Macau’s calm handling of coronavirus crisis puts Hong Kong panic in perspective

“Long queues have appeared at retailers and pharmacies across Hong Kong in recent days, while arguments with shopkeepers have broken out as Hongkongers desperately try to get their hands on face masks that might protect them from the
new coronavirus
. Not only are supplies scarce in the city, some companies have jacked up the prices for small boxes of masks.
Just an hour’s ferry ride away in
Macau
, Hong Kong’s sister special administrative region, residents are going through a very different experience.
Most have waited in an orderly manner to get masks at local pharmacies. Unlike Hong Kong, the Macau government ordered 20 million masks after the first coronavirus case was confirmed in the city on January 22. Each resident can buy a maximum of 10 surgical masks every 10 days for only 8 patacas (US$1) at designated pharmacies as long as they present their Macau identity card.”

 

[gregjrichards]

I just read the people who have died in China are being cremated with no funeral. I can’t imagine what that must be like to have your loved one die of this terrible disease without being able to say goodbye, then having them cremated ASAP with no funeral. I don’t think the families will be getting their loved ones ashes either. It is such a tragic situation.

 

[dotr]

Coronavirus Toll Update: Cases & Deaths by Country of Wuhan, China Virus - Worldometer
Age and conditions of Coronavirus cases
According to the WHO Situation Report no. 7 issued on Jan. 27:

• The median age of cases detected outside of China is 45 years, ranging from 2 to 74 years.
• 71% of cases were male.

The WHO, in its Myth busters FAQs, addresses the question: "Does the new coronavirus affect older people, or are younger people also susceptible?" by answering that:

• People of all ages can be infected by the new coronavirus (2019-nCoV).
• Older people, and people with pre-existing medical conditions (such as asthma, diabetes, heart disease) appear to be more vulnerable to becoming severely ill with the virus.

Serious Cases of 30 year olds
Two patients in France who are now being treated in intensive care in Paris have been described as a young couple aged 30 and 31 years old, both Chinese citizens from Wuhan who were asymptomatic when they arrived in Paris on January 18 [19].

Reports from NHC

The China National Health Commission reported the details of the first 17 deaths up to 24 pm 22 Jan 2020. The deaths included 13 males and 4 females. The median age of the deaths was 75 (range 48-89) years.[21]

Worldometer is conducting further research on case and deaths demographics and will update soon with its findings.

 

[gregjrichards]

India's second case of coronavirus has been reported in Kerala, three days after the southern state reported country's first case. The patient, who has a travel history from virus-hit China, has been isolated in a hospital, Union Health Ministry said today.

"Second positive case of Novel Coronavirus patient, has been reported in Kerala. The patient has a travel history from China. The patient is stable and is being closely monitored," the statement read.

India's Second Coronavirus Case In Kerala, Patient In Isolation At Hospital

 

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I guess you might be right, but on the other hand I believe that the time on a surface is probably more species-characteristics-dependent. For instance environmental conditions to kill a mammal shouldn't be very different depending on species -- this would be things like the temperature a creature can survive, how long it can survive without water or oxygen. So whether it's a horse or a human, it shouldn't be too different. The thing that makes a coronavirus a coronavirus is its structure, so each of them should have similar structural vulnerabilities like the horse and the human do. But if you were to compare a coronavirus with an anthrax virus then it's more like comparing a human and a fish, they'll have different environmental conditions that are compatible with either survival or death.

I agree, and I fully understand why the assumptions are being made. However, I read an article early on that stated the middle portion of the genome for this strain is unlike any previous coronavirus strain that has jumped from animal to human. It makes me wonder how different the variables might be if that is truly the case. That’s the only reason I am looking for strain specific confirmation regarding this novel coronavirus.

 

[margarita25]

Cancel your holidays! Peter Dutton urges Australians to reconsider ALL overseas travel to protect themselves against deadly coronavirus

Peter Dutton urges Australians to reconsider ALL overseas travel to protect against coronavirus | Daily Mail Online
Rsbm

From the above link:

“He urged people to consider travelling to regional Australia rather than booking a trip overseas.

Mr Dutton said holidaying in Australia could also help businesses in areas struggling because of the bushfire crisis.

He also said Australians who are still in China need to think about leaving the country as soon as possible, with all flights temporarily suspended from February 9.

'If people are leaving Australia to go to China today against the advice then they're putting themselves in a difficult position,' he said.

'The very strong advice from the Federal Government is please, do not travel, let us assess this over the next 14 days.'”