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I think I need someone to go back and summarize everything we've uncovered so far b/c I just realized I don't even remember exactly how some of these people possibly fit in the story......even the people I researched myself.....LOL. This story has a larger and more disjointed cast of characters than any other crime I've followed....its really crazy. I'm sure there's someone out there who has everyone diagrammed like a family tree.........I nominate that person to help out the rest of us and our tired brains. :blowkiss:
 
http://www.pnj.com/article/20090715/NEWS01/90715022

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David Melenkevitz, a spokesman for the Drug Enforcement Administration, said Wednesday his agency is assisting with the investigation but would not comment on the case. He said Escambia County officials have also sought help from other federal agencies including the FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
 
I'm so confused...but yet its getting clearer and clearer. What time did this all take place?? You would think if it were robbery, night would be a better option. I think it was a hit....for what reason remains to be seen. I've been speed reading to catch up and I know I saw who the kids went to, or an idea so I'm back to re-read that now. Those poor kids.
 
WeatherOrNot said:
Patrick Gonzalez Jr., 35, of the 1400 block of College Parkway in Gulf Breeze.


I think what PLG Jr had listed as an address, was actually his Mom's karate studio.
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No, it's a house owned by his parents, the Poffs.
 
Anyone have the family's myspace please? m looking for it, and can't find it, but I know they have one, JVM Just mentioned it on her show!
 
Lossmitpro said:
BTW, while we are just gathering the various breadcrumbs into a huge pile, before we really start to try to synthesize and reduce to bullet points, I did do a look-up on the history of Gary Lamont Sumner, the 'proprietor' of 5th Dimension Auto Detailing, and his sheet includes arrests for a large number of speeding and driving without license offenses, which led to license suspension/revocation, which led to probation, on which he has been violated multiple times... he also has disorderly conduct, and civil judgments in his record... and was *apparently* running an unlicensed and untaxed business from the Duval St. location... so he is no choirboy.
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If you leave psycho Lpatrick's drama out of the equation for a minute, it makes you wonder if the hit wasn't part of some kind of "turf war". The gansta crew may have figured on getting a bigger piece of some kind of action. . . and there are way to many people in this that have "cars" in common. Cars, Drugs, money laundering, and weapons.
 
Just a little clarification on the alarm system I have seven adopted special kids. We also have alarms in the home which are left on all the time. I also had motion system installed on central hallway and alarms on each bedroom door. The reason for this is these kids tend to wander and if some of them are older, they can not dissassociate their hormones, feelings and can be overly but not consciously freindly. I also have them on laundry room etc., for safety reasons. I remember that ADT thought I was nuts but it is common practice for DS kids.
 
ChucklesCDR said:
OK, I gotta leave the office now, so I'm gonna go out on a limb...

Pamela Long thought that getting Byrd and Melanie off the planet would relieve her of some big problems. All she had to do was find some low-lifes stupid enough to do her work for her. She likes the finer things in life - her "Soundview" house is right on the water. I've been in that area - it's a beautiful location. Junior is also a person very concerned about money and status. She prob. groomed him for the job, and had him do the recruiting. She prob. recruited the security person.


Chuck
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BBM. What problems??
 
On HLN, JVM had a panel of people talking about this case. A radio host (forgot his name) from Pensacola AM 1370 said the SAFE was taken to the auto body shop of the suspects. (5th Dimension)

Earlier today, Morgan said numerous search warrants were acted out.
At the presser yesterday, Morgan would not reveal the contents of the safe.

I bet they found it at 5th Dimension. If so, that means these animals actually took it back to auto body shop. :doh: Really? I mean, really? :elfroll: Oh surree... LE would never think to look there. :doh:
 
Komak said:
As far as the camera's~alarms or security system....

1. I believe I read in the 2005 pnj article...that there were alarms on every door, and IF an alarm went off, a quick headcount of the kids was done...to make sure none had ran off or left the home...

2. I would anticipate those alarms being ON during the invasion (yesterday there seemed to be many upset about the fact that the utility door was unlocked...a. do we know it was and b. perhaps that was like the garage door...they had older children who were in and out...no need to worry if there was an alarm on it...I would imagine also that the alarm

ONLY ALARMED WHEN THE DOOR OPENED FROM THE INSIDE...OUT...FOR SOMEONE TO LEAVE...NOT COME IN...

3. No about those cameras...again, just thinking...I am sure they were on a different system altogether....and ran continuously...I doubt if they were for protection as much as keeping an eye on the kids, and with "so many adults in the household" (according to 2005 pnj article). If they just simply ran, then there is NO use to have a password entered~ unless it was online...to view the camera's or shut them down....

4. I would suggest that the password was the orignal one (due to the little use) that it was not gained through observation in the home, but rather through recording of keystrokes or observation of Byrd Billings..entering it at work...into his computer there....

Just my opinion...
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My daughter bought a house that has the alarm that beeps it does it anytime the door is opened going in or out .
 
LaceSprocket said:
On HLN, JVM had a panel of people talking about this case. A radio host (forgot his name) from Pensacola AM 1370 said the SAFE was taken to the auto body shop of the suspects. (5th Dimension)

Earlier today, Morgan said numerous search warrants were acted out.
At the presser yesterday, Morgan would not reveal the contents of the safe.

I bet they found it at 5th Dimension. If so, that means these animals actually took it back to auto body shop. :doh: Really? I mean, really? :elfroll: Oh surree... LE would never think to look there. :doh:
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Sure they did because an auto body would have the tools to get into that safe.
 
Has anyone heard more about tonight's presser? TIA.
 
This is from Lexus116:

Linda, I had some info I thought you all might be interested in. Earlier in the day someone said they had heard the DEA was involved because some of these guys were involved in the "MS-13" Gang. Well, just now on ABC news the reporter said he is hearing the same thing, they were possibly involved in the MS-13 gang and drug trafficking. I looked up MS-13 ([ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Salvatrucha[/ame]) and was a bit taken back when I read they are involved in human trafficking and home invasions. It reminded me of that off-the-wall video on YouTube last night.

Also, they just showed an interview w/ Long's neighbor (in the exclusive Soundside neighborhood) and she said in the past week all sorts of people have been going in and out of her house and the red van was seen in her driveway.

Some are saying the red van came from a "car graveyard" that was next door to the 5th Dimension auto detailing place in Ft Walton that Sumner owned.

Do you know of the MS-13 gang?

Great information - I can't wait until you join us!!!!!!!
 
on the similar threads listed below there is one started by MaedchenX. In the article it states: Nancy Markham, a relative of the family, told CNN affiliate WEAR-TV that her son was inside the Billings' home when the shootings occurred.
Was this Blue?
 
Lindadanette said:
This is from Lexus116:

Linda, I had some info I thought you all might be interested in. Earlier in the day someone said they had heard the DEA was involved because some of these guys were involved in the "MS-13" Gang. Well, just now on ABC news the reporter said he is hearing the same thing, they were possibly involved in the MS-13 gang and drug trafficking. I looked up MS-13 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Salvatrucha) and was a bit taken back when I read they are involved in human trafficking and home invasions. It reminded me of that off-the-wall video on YouTube last night.

Also, they just showed an interview w/ Long's neighbor (in the exclusive Soundside neighborhood) and she said in the past week all sorts of people have been going in and out of her house and the red van was seen in her driveway.

Some are saying the red van came from a "car graveyard" that was next door to the 5th Dimension auto detailing place in Ft Walton that Sumner owned.

Do you know of the MS-13 gang?

Great information - I can't wait until you join us!!!!!!!
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MS 13 gang is from Mexico but throughout the US now and they are evil. We also heard that is why DEA became involved / MS13/suspects and ties to mexico. This was on ABC news at 6 o clock.
 
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