Couple who adopted 12 children shot to death #2

[Lindadanette]

Just dreaming I think...

Internet info says she still in the Pensacola area

 

[RIVERBABE60]

Well you just can't go to the cops and say "hey...my neighbor seems to have a lot of visitors at her house - can you go and check on that for me?":crazy: :blowkiss:

Probably all druggies. That's my guess. JMO !

 

[FromFL]

heading to take a breather...get some food..then come back in a cpl hours.

 

[pattieandco]

snipped.. from pnj.com

The safe believed to have been taken from the home of Byrd and Melanie Billingses' home a week ago was found in the backyard of Pamela Wiggins' home at 1247 Ramblewood Drive, Gulf Breeze. Wiggins is a suspect in connection to the robbery. The safe was in a hole in the center of a large pile of bricks.

So it was buried in a pile of bricks (you can see pic here) not very clever
http://pnj.com/article/20090716/NEWS01/90716007&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

 

[Gypsy Road]

Internet info says she still in the Pensacola area

The reason my brain went there was because back in the 2nd thread someone found a LPB in Albany. It's mentioned several times in posts in the middle of the thread (around post 625-675 IIRC)

 

[RIVERBABE60]

snipped.. from pnj.com

The safe believed to have been taken from the home of Byrd and Melanie Billingses' home a week ago was found in the backyard of Pamela Wiggins' home at 1247 Ramblewood Drive, Gulf Breeze. Wiggins is a suspect in connection to the robbery. The safe was in a hole in the center of a large pile of bricks.

So it was buried in a pile of bricks (you can see pic here) not very clever
http://pnj.com/article/20090716/NEWS01/90716007&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

Druggies, theives and murderers generally are not very clever...they just think they are....much like our children who think they "did this for the very first time"....LOL!

 

[mom_of_five]

WOW. Sued the tabacco companies. -IF- this is related, I don't think a 2 hour movie could ever show all of the details.

I may be getting details confused, but there is a Misha listed on this court record...and isn't that same name mentioned often on Chelsea's Myspace? Just stands out to me since Misha isn't a common name...:waitasec:

 

[bogeygal]

Have a quick question...didn't see the entire news presser today.

Is LE still looking for the POI who possibly was involved with handling the security camera's on the Billings property?

If so, my hope is that this person either backed out last minute, or the whole team wasn't on the same page, and that is why we have an investigation that is moving forward quickly. For the family and all the children of this tragic murder, my heart goes out to them all.

Without that camera activated, these arrest's would not have been as swift as it has been. (Although there was still a lot that LE could have found without the camera's) JMO

 

[Chemaster]

snipped.. from pnj.com

The safe believed to have been taken from the home of Byrd and Melanie Billingses' home a week ago was found in the backyard of Pamela Wiggins' home at 1247 Ramblewood Drive, Gulf Breeze. Wiggins is a suspect in connection to the robbery. The safe was in a hole in the center of a large pile of bricks.

So it was buried in a pile of bricks (you can see pic here) not very clever
http://pnj.com/article/20090716/NEWS01/90716007&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

Let me get this straight ...

1) Someone isn't aware of a murder / robbery before it happens
2) They later find out of the murder / robbery
3) They then agree to let the murderers bury the goods in their backyard

Nope ... I don't believe that it occurred like this ... no one is that stupid

 

[crocus]

Obituary

BYRD "BUD" STARLING BILLINGS
09/23/1942 - 07/09/2009

MELANIE ANNE BILLINGS
09/12/1965 - 07/09/2009


Bud and Melanie have been welcomed to heaven by their three angels, John, Nikki and Bailey. Bud and Melanie have left this world together. They were two people that shared more love than humanly possible. They loved each other, they loved their children, they loved their lives. They were the most giving people, they never met a stranger. They had a deep hope to make the world a better place, one person at a time. Bud's world revolved around Melanie, everything he did was for her and the children. He worked everyday of his life to give her and their children the best life possible. Melanie's world revolved around her children. All she ever wanted to be in life was a mommy. She had more patience than 20 people together. She wanted her children to have lives that were filled with fun, learning and love. She lived her life to serve her children. They both were very special people, but together they were indescribable. They have been taken from us too soon, but in their short time here on earth, they impacted so many lives.

more at link
http://www.legacy.com/PensacolaNewsJournal/Obituaries.asp?Page=Notice&PersonID=129741743

 

[UnderDog]

Wiggins movements/actions will likely lead to a ninth arrest or more. Incarcerated she is useless, at least right now. Hugh Wiggins is involved somehow, he knew where the safe had been stowed. Maybe he'll have an opportunity to get more info? On HLN, they're suggesting that the safe contents were a plausible motive in themselves. Something or some "things" were very valuable or very important. The "tape" that gets floated around, that is just rumor, isn't it? We couldn't have known about any contents until the safe was found, right?

 

[Midwest MOM]

OK so...*trying to go off of memory, feel free to correct or tell me so I can edit*

CS was arrested and charged with stolen property yesterday (was it dealing in?)
CS had a previous address on Silcox Lane, which is owned by the Billings (also appears to be their home address)

CS has a new address owned by Phillips (have we found the connection of Phillips -> Billings again from previous thoughts?)

Wiggins owns property in the same general area/same street as the new address for CS

Have we found a connection between CS and Pamela Long Wiggins?

CS does have a myspace 'friend' with similiar name of the youtube girl who is going off about human trafficking

Maybe I will go back and see what I can find on the different "Cortes" vs "Cortez" stuff.

that would be great!! Do you have the links of All her(cortez) websites? I could be wrong, but only heard her say cortez, where did you get the information re: San Diego?? And someone else said she is for Georgia?

It would be great to check them out.

I really think this lady is her! I found a pic that I will try to crop just her eyes in photo shop

 

[NSC]

I need help from Locals!!!

Alright- CS on her arrest report says 1206 Via De Luna

Pam Long- 1600 Via De Luna - 4th floor

Because these are both EVEN numbers - should be same side of the st - but when I look on google st I can't seem to locate residence.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=1600 Via De Luna&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

 

[UnderDog]

So it was buried in a pile of bricks (you can see pic here) not very clever
http://pnj.com/article/20090716/NEWS...NTPAGECAROUSEL

Not clever since the surveillance tapes have broken the case. But obviously "planned" and if there hadn't been any tape, quite effective.

 

[Jenmrk]

Well you just can't go to the cops and say "hey...my neighbor seems to have a lot of visitors at her house - can you go and check on that for me?":crazy: :blowkiss:

I do realize that, my husband is a deputy here with the ECSO, my point was that her neighbors told police on the day that they went to her home in Gulf Breeze that they have witnessed the red van there along with several people and they thought it was strange. I was not saying they should have reported it, only that it links more than one of them to her prior to the crime. The interview was not real specific but it is on one of the local news sites here. I was born here in Pensacola and to those of us that live here between Pensacola, Beulah, The beach and even Gulf Breeze it is all the same, you haft to live here to understand that, also one thing that has not been mentioned is that these car dealers get the cars from the local auction here and it is well known that our interstate is the highway of drugs for America. Do we know if any of these guys ever transported cars for car lots to and from auctions from other states. It is common for come car lots to use employess to do this in this area.

 

[Sam Jones]

Just had to reply. Many, many posts ago, there was a link someone posted about an ad for the current Billings home on the market. It was at some kind of link that said "Make me Sell." Anyway, in that ad it said that there was an additional 11.6 acres that could be bought. Well the link you posted showing the Silcox Road property shows that it has this amount of land -- 11.6 acres.

This must be adjacent to their current home.

 

[NSC]

Just wanted to note - it is not far!!!

Driving directions to 1206 Via de Luna Dr, Gulf Breeze, FL 32561
0.7 mi – about 1 min
Suggested routes




1600 Via de Luna DrGulf Breeze, FL 32561

1. Head west on Via de Luna Dr toward Avenida 21 0.7 mi

1206 Via de Luna DrGulf Breeze, FL 32561

 

[mo2b]

Just a question but in the arrest of CS on 7-14-09 due to the stolen property it has that date as arrest date but if you go down to the bottom oth the clerk of court page it says offense begin date as 2-25-09????

 

[Gene]

Want to remind everyone of this:

http://www.escambiaclerk.com/xml/xml.asp?ucase_id=34007435

Byrd and Melanie sued their son for custody of his daughters. I have noticed that this son is never in attendance at the family press conferences and recently I found this (scroll to the bottom where it says "Family in bay area"):

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/article1018810.ece

He is not going to the funderal. I wonder if there are still bad feelings? Anyone know?

 

[NSC]

:blowkiss:

Just had to reply. Many, many posts ago, there was a link someone posted about an ad for the current Billings home on the market. It was at some kind of link that said "Make me Sell." Anyway, in that ad it said that there was an additional 11.6 acres that could be bought. Well the link you posted showing the Silcox Road property shows that it has this amount of land -- 11.6 acres.

This must be adjacent to their current home.

There is a SINGLE family home that sits on the Silcox address that the Billings CURRENTLY own :blowkiss: