Couple who adopted 12 children shot to death #3

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Looks like Begondae Moore died in a robbery attempt. The federal agent was from ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement). Homeland Security would not say what the ICE agent was doing there. A whole bunch of ICE agents then responded to the shooting.

The violence linked to these people is amazing.
 
Here is something for yall to chew on - with all the "theories" of other possible things going on. What would take Byrd away from the family home on Fathers Day with his own agenda - see if yall can see what I am saying - sounds to me, IMO that things in the last month were "interesting" -- this is just a topper for now since I can post this info being it on the website:

http://friends.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=profile.friendmoods&friendId=70047361


I see that. What about the comment on June 25 about feeling betrayed? That is interesting, yes?
 
The dead guy, Begondae Moore, in the car video I referenced was shot to death at a mall in South Carolina. Interesting part is the part about the federal agent involved. Read the news story at this link.

www.foxcarolina.com/news/17916929/detail.html


Yeah, I saw this and posted something about it earlier - in another article (i think) they said the feds "just happened" to be in the area - right!
 
http://www.myspace.com/milanlexus

I got this link from Mrs. MB's my space page. This is a person that made a comment on her my space page. This is very interesting. The mood and also the picture of the two people with all of the tattoos....
 
Ok. IMO. I read and reread these post. First of all she used the little red upset icon saying she was "disgusted." Wonder about the agenda she was referring to? I don't think entirely it was the son Justin. She first posted at 10:57 a.m. then the other person posted 11:11 a.m. about Justin then MB's response was at 4:12 p.m. saying "not exactly" "but could be added." So originally I take this that she was not referring to Justin.

The other time she used the little read upset icon was when she was enraged and this was directed at a child.


Ok. IMO There is another post that I am wondering about now. The one that she was referring to about people dating other people that are the age of thier children. Umm...MB was younger than BB oldest son...
Wonder who exactly she was referring to?


I read over the MS comments last weekend and found them a little on the odd side, but chalked it up to the typical p-off that everybody experiences from time to time.

Having reread them again...

Considering the crap I dealt with for almost 12 years from down there, no way could I post the initial thoughts that popped into my head.

Therefore I'm convincing myself it's normal p-off, easier on the brain that way.
 
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I read over the MS comments last weekend and found them a little on the odd side, but chalked it up to the typical p-off that everybody experiences from time to time.

Having reread them again...

Considering the crap I dealt with for almost 12 years from down there, no way could I post the initial thoughts that popped into my head.

Therefore I'm convincing myself it's normal p-off, easier on the brain that way.

Choux, Pcola does have it share of shady "going's on" doesn't it? I came from the DC area and never thought I'd stay in the Pcola area, but I married someone born and raised from here and I'm stuck. It's a very strange and backward place in many ways. Not a lot of forward thinking going on as far as my opinion goes. JMO!

ETA - I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my above post. There are many things I love about Pcola and I don't feel that everyone thinks in a backward sort of way. It's just I've lived in the area over 20 years and have not seen a lot of growth. For the most part - people are friendly and wonderful. It's just that I feel there's still a lot of that good ole boy system stuff going on. I didn't mean to cut down Pcola as a whole.
 
Yes, this is for SURE the mother of M who is married and who lives in AZ - not sure about MB being his mother but I am assuming so for the moment. What is interesting is that MB daughter lives with Byrds daughter in AZ - And this woman EB has had properties in AZ - Adn MB other daughter looked to live with Billings - getit? :crazy:
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OK, all of these initials are confusing me!

I can confirm:
MB's youngest daughter lives in AZ.
EB owned property in the same city.
MB's older daughter lived with Billings.

But are you SURE that MB's youngest daughter lives with Byrd's daughter??? I think that she lives in Tempe, Az and the daughter lives in Mesa.... I had assumed she had returned to live with her mother. Is this incorrect?
 
WHOA!

Does that mean our Private messages aren't "private"?

It means you can't advertise a private discussion on the board, such as "I sent you a PM" etc.
 
Choux, Pcola does have it share of shady "going's on" doesn't it? I came from the DC area and never thought I'd stay in the Pcola area, but I married someone born and raised from here and I'm stuck. It's a very strange and backward place in many ways. Not a lot of forward thinking going on as far as my opinion goes. JMO!

You said it! Unfortunately, about 3 hrs to the north of P'cola where I was born, grew up and presently stuck, isn't any better and in some ways worse.

In all fairness, that crap I mentioned happened from Chalmette, La to Port Charlotte, Fl on the gulf coast, then on the atlantic coast from Myrtle Beach, SC to Key West. Fl that I can swear to and could drop names if I was guaranteed a new identity, full protection and a home on the other side of the world.

Those parties made Stanley Kubrick's "Eyes Wide Shut" look like Disney's "Alice in Wonderland".

And the sheriff sends my mind tripping down that direction nearly every time he opens his mouth regarding this case.
 
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OK, all of these initials are confusing me!

I can confirm:
MB's youngest daughter lives in AZ.
EB owned property in the same city.
MB's older daughter lived with Billings.

But are you SURE that MB's youngest daughter lives with Byrd's daughter??? I think that she lives in Tempe, Az and the daughter lives in Mesa.... I had assumed she had returned to live with her mother. Is this incorrect?

I really don't know what to say.....

Yes, that sorta all fits... the initials are killing me - :banghead::banghead:
 
CNN just aired a segment "Who is Pamela Long Wiggins" and mentioned that she has six aliases. They mentioned that there were many "unsavory characters" seemingly connected to this crime.
 
CNN has the Escambia Sheriff (David Morgan) on now. [This may be a repeat.]

They say they know the motive, mentions "high stakes poker". 8 people arrested at the moment and police are trying to move cautiously.
 
CNN has the Escambia Sheriff (David Morgan) on now. [This may be a repeat.]

They say they know the motive, mentions "high stakes poker". 8 people arrested at the moment and police are trying to move cautiously.

WHAT!?! Poker? Ok, perhaps the casino, bingo thing wasn't too off the wall after all.
 
I am totally lost....too many MB's for me to separate:eek:
 
CNN has the Escambia Sheriff (David Morgan) on now. [This may be a repeat.]

They say they know the motive, mentions "high stakes poker". 8 people arrested at the moment and police are trying to move cautiously.

Well at least I know some of us sleuthers are on the right track then :clap: and THANKS BE they know it too!!! :clap::crazy: This is going to be EXPLOSIVE!!!!
 
http://www.myspace.com/milanlexus

I got this link from Mrs. MB's my space page. This is a person that made a comment on her my space page. This is very interesting. The mood and also the picture of the two people with all of the tattoos....

I guess my brain is too scrambled with all the names and connections to understand how this myspace is significant (Not your fault, though!)

I was mainly just posting to let you know that the picture of the guy and girl with the tattoos is a really popular picture on many people's Myspace's. I can't remember the origin, but in another community I post in, people ask about who it is all the time because they just think it's a "cute" picture, and are looking for other photography similar (alternative couples). I'm pretty sure that it's not relevant to the case.
 
Hugh Wiggins is a key player. He may be the link between organized crime and this budding "cell" in Pensacola. I'm convinced Bud Billings was an obstacle, but unsure if he was intentionally obstructing or just "in the way". Billings was complimented as an ethical business owner in a "rough" business (adult entertainment) and it seems the same situation in the "rough" business of used cars. Particularly when stolen cars and drug transport are likely involved (remember the DEA, ATF and FBI are on this case as well). In searching for anything on H. Wiggins, all I come up with is a marriage and a mortgage. Anyone else tried to find this guy? Hugh was able to lead the Sheriff to the safe without getting arrested. He was probably the driver of the red (maroon) minivan as Pamela was specified as a passenger. There are two investigations going on. The Billings murder is essentially closed and the "crew" are going down. Gonzales was only the crew leader, not the mastermind. Hugh Wiggins may well NOT be the mastermind either, I think it goes higher into the "network", but he was a ranking member like a lieutenant or whatever. These guys meant business and like someone posted earlier, there were more murders to come. They were carving out their turf, in my extremely humble opinion, and Billings provided an opportunity for them to make an example of someone. Somehow, Bud Billings crossed a big time operator. Now, I could be wrong of course, but I'm curious if anyone else has the same theory or close, and if anyone has unearthed ANYTHING on Hugh Gregory Wiggins.
 
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