Crystal S., Haleigh's mother #5

[mysticrose]

Boy I get so perplexed by all the bashing of both sides of Haleighs family..(sigh).
Did anyone stop and think that perhaps Crystal may have been on the phone with LE and perhaps other people of the nature and that helped cause a delay in her getting there?
We do not know what went on and to sit here and say that you would be out the door 5 mins after the call is well..how would you know? Really ! Especially if you have other children you are trying to find care for and so forth, would you drag them down there with you to all the drama or try and find a sitter?
Perhaps she did think it was a prank at first, why is that so hard to believe? None of us here have dated or had children with Ron ! Apparently she did not trust them enough to even question a situation like this..!
I do not know what happened and I am sure not making any excuse for anyone, but to sit here and say she is a horrible mom so forth and so on when we dont know and only can assume is getting old, just as it is old to bash Ron and his family.

 

[Flossie JMO]

Crystal realized it was not a prank while on the phone with TN.

 

[sleepingheart]

It has been greatly debated over here in previous threads. The fact that Crystal did not arrive in Satsuma till after 11 am is no secret.
The topic brings out the ugly and bias in this forum. I still can not understand the side taking in a child abduction case, but, have my opinion of who is not a suspect and who I want more information on to rule out their involvement. The fact that Crystal didn't respond to that phone call at 3:45 they way a concerned and loving parent who was just told their 5 year old daughter is missing from her bed at 3 am in the morning and the police are there and they can not find her is being overlooked and justified.

I'm not on anyone's side. You mentioned in Ron's thread about Crystal not arriving till hours later; since I did not want to get into trouble for discussing Crystal in Ron's thread, I came over to this thread to find out about it because, if this is true, it is a red flag for me too. I asked you because, since you mentioned it, I thought you'd readily have a link available or something.....Sorry. Like I said before, I've been reading in here some, but am still "new" and have not found everything. I was not aware that this brought out any 'ugliness' or "bias" and if I had been would not have asked. Again, sorry, I will see if I can find it. Thank you & God bless!

 

[mysticrose]

Crystal realized it was not a prank while on the phone with TN.

Wasn't there two versions of her response to the call ? I believe they contradict each other as does much of this case...

 

[Flossie JMO]

I wouldn't be surprised. This is the one I meant


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/12/ng.01.html



RACE: How did you learn she was gone?

SHEFFIELD: Ronald`s mother, Teresa Nieves (ph), called me at 3:49 AM in the morning and told me that Haleigh was gone.

GRACE: And what did you do?

SHEFFIELD: At first, I thought it was a prank, kind of. And then she was, like, The police are there, and I heard them in the background and then it hit me that it was not a prank.

GRACE: OK. Now, what time did you say they called you?

SHEFFIELD: It was 3:49 AM.

GRACE: And who called you?

Wasn't there two versions of her response to the call ? I believe they contradict each other as does much of this case...

 

[sleepingheart]

Also, from what I've found(I'm still looking), the reason why Crystal & her family didn't arrive till later on is because of their responsibilities.....you know like other children, Marie's job, etc. What were they supposed to do? As we've seen in so many cases, life must go on. The fact that the Sheffield/Griffis family actually took the time out to make neccessary arrangements for their childcare & jobs is one of the reasons that Marie(as far as I know)is still employed, or not "let go" as Ron was & the reason that no "abductions" have happened on their watch.......and one thing that separates them for Ron. All MOO, of course.

 

[mysticrose]

I wouldn't be surprised. This is the one I meant


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/12/ng.01.html



RACE: How did you learn she was gone?

SHEFFIELD: Ronald`s mother, Teresa Nieves (ph), called me at 3:49 AM in the morning and told me that Haleigh was gone.

GRACE: And what did you do?

SHEFFIELD: At first, I thought it was a prank, kind of. And then she was, like, The police are there, and I heard them in the background and then it hit me that it was not a prank.

GRACE: OK. Now, what time did you say they called you?

SHEFFIELD: It was 3:49 AM.

GRACE: And who called you?

Thank you..

 

[texasmommy39]

Boy I get so perplexed by all the bashing of both sides of Haleighs family..(sigh).
Did anyone stop and think that perhaps Crystal may have been on the phone with LE and perhaps other people of the nature and that helped cause a delay in her getting there?
We do not know what went on and to sit here and say that you would be out the door 5 mins after the call is well..how would you know? Really ! Especially if you have other children you are trying to find care for and so forth, would you drag them down there with you to all the drama or try and find a sitter?
Perhaps she did think it was a prank at first, why is that so hard to believe? None of us here have dated or had children with Ron ! Apparently she did not trust them enough to even question a situation like this..!
I do not know what happened and I am sure not making any excuse for anyone, but to sit here and say she is a horrible mom so forth and so on when we dont know and only can assume is getting old, just as it is old to bash Ron and his family.

IMO If all can not be looked at (As we have done Ron, Misty, such as timelines, alibis, credibility and associates, family and freinds than I do not believe anybody is going to get any further on this matter here or anywhere on the internet until an arrest is made.

 

[mysticrose]

IMO If all can not be looked at (As we have done Ron, Misty, such as timelines, alibis, credibility and associates, family and freinds than I do not believe anybody is going to get any further on this matter here or anywhere on the internet until an arrest is made.

I agree that "ALL" need to be looked at just not bashed, there is a big difference between the two..JMO of course

 

[Inana]

On an early thread here on Websleuths, it was discussed that when Crystal got the phone call that Haleigh was missing, she called her mother to come with her. Teresa is a school bus driver and had children to pick up and deliver before she could leave. School around here starts at 8:00am, so if they arrived in Satsuma at 9:30am, they wasted no time once they were on the road.

What was Teresa to do? Leave the kids at the bus stops? Small towns don't have a pool of substitute school bus drivers. Teresa had an obligation and did the right thing. Haleigh has been gone 4 months now, so i don't think that Crystals arrival time could have made a difference. Nor should it now.

my own opinion

 

[Inana]

Of course, I mean Marie Griffis, not Teresa. Sorry.

 

[texasmommy39]

Sarah lived there also and I believe she took care of Chloe for a couple of days before Sarah came to Satsuma. Chad was home so he could have watched his kids also,we know he was home the day of the 10th because he was on myspace during the day. So childcare would be not a problem.

Teresa lived like 15 miles down the road. I could have been dressed and out of the door and there within 15 minutes, no problem. She arrived AFTER the police, so no problem there either. Ron probably called his mom while Misty was on the phone with 911. I would have done the same thing because I would need my family to be with me at this horrific time in my life.

BBM
Cajun, I am glad you brought that subject back up in regards to his timeline of actions the day HaLeigh came up missing. It is clear to me also that the excuse of someone staying with the children should not be a reason for a delay if Chad had been in the home at 3:45 am. Why would it take so long to work those terms out. Crystal sure did drive around often in Satsuma before that seizure and accident.

 

[mysticrose]

Wasn't Crystal waiting for her mother to drive down with her. Perhaps as well she had talked w/ Ron on the phone and figured he had it under control at the moment and she could wait so her Mom could go with her? It may not be the decision most of would choose but we weren't there. I have family I can call at the drop of a hat here to watch my kids, and their employers would work with them to fill there place but they do not drive a bus.

 

[Whisperer]

It is great that all of you know exactly what it entails to leave a home when your child could be dead and pack, then arrange for an infant and other children to be cared for. To make sure there if food for them while you are gone....and to arrange for someone to drive you because you may crash the vehicle if you are tired or stressed.

It appears that you are trying to convict Crystal on kidnapping or worse of her own daughter.

Maybe we should all take a break and try to find out what each family is doing to help find Haleigh. Maybe we could offer up services or assistance in the plight. Does RC have a website? I will go there after this post.

 

[Flossie JMO]

Iirc Marie called her employer and they immediately told her another driver would do her route.

 

[mysticrose]

Iirc Marie called her employer and they immediately told her another driver would do her route.

Thanks Flossie JMO...do you have a link or somewhere I can read that..it would help alot. I know I remember hearing that as well just not sure if it can be linked or if it is hearsay...TIA

 

[Whisperer]

Very thoughtful posting..

WELCOME aboard...SleepingHeart!

 

[Flossie JMO]

Welcome, I don't have one handy, will have to look for one. It only makes sense really imo, what Granny would go to work?

 

[mysticrose]

Welcome, I don't have one handy, will have to look for one. It only makes sense really imo, what Granny would go to work?

I know..I was searching back through the threads to try and find a link to. Between the two of us will find it at some point...lol

 

[Busylady]

We have analyzed TNs timeline based on the police report and interviews, and her timeline of arrival makes perfect sense that she was called while Misty was on the 911 call.

The info on the police report for Crystal is incomplete and incorrect for one thing. In addition I would think in the narrative Crystal arriving would of been mentioned had that been the case.

As of 11:30 broadcast Crystal still had not arrived, as they stated she was on her way from Baker County. It keeps popping up I think because Crystal has changed her story about what happened that morning, because most of us have a really tough time understanding why a parent would wait that many hours before showing up when their child is missing.

Chad did not come to Satsuma with Crystal he could of very easily watched children if need be.

Where do you get your info that Crystal got there after the police report? What is mid-morning. I thought mid-morning is about 9:30 am.

An incident report is based on what is happening at the scene of the crime.

Why this subject of CS and her arrival time keeps eating away at some is perplexing.

Would you be able to drive yourself and an infant, under the pressure that your other child could be dead? Very high expectations. Didn't she have other children in the home also? Getting an infant and arranging child care for the other children is not done in a minute. The report says she was there and apparently interviewed. At the time, they didn't care about where she worked.

Place some of your questions on how in the world TN got into the crime scene and arrived in minutes dressed, interviewed and orgainized with pic in hand because SHE knew her grandchild was gone. Here is where suspicion lies.....good grief!

Crystal got there later than you like. TN got there much earlier than possible if she wasn't called till after the 911 call. It is highly likely and very suspicious that she was there by 3:49 and had already been interviewed and is now calling CS.

You might considering analyzing TN's time line instead...at least we have actual time to compare notes.